http://www.destructoid.com/blogs/Deathkiller/new-steam-greenlight-stats-reveal-toxic-community-of-quot-no-quot-voters-in-majority--243573.phtml look at yet another "positive" take on Greenlight...
[QUOTE="skrat_01"]Honestly I think your posting is just fine, only that you need to read the guys article about his Greenlight experience, so it was a little presumptuous of you - but it's the internet, and low and behold people are people. I wouldn't worry about low game rating or anything like that either, OP is acting a little petty, and your game is looking slick, and you posting a pretty humble response here and actually acknowledging things is certainly nice. If anything OP has done you a favour, your Greenlight has caught my attention (as well as the other guys in VanOrd's article). Well, I am glad it caught your attention :) As for reading the article - I did read it. What I tried to say is that Greenlight is good! I don't want Greenlight being criticized because it doesn't really deserve it. Valve devs really listed to our input, and change/adjust things to make it better. Yesterday they released a big update for developers to see more stats - now we not only know our place in top 100 or else, but also there are comparisons with games ahead of you, and we can see how many yes votes we got. That was my main objection to the article - yes, some games might be not welcome by players but others are (including ours). And this process is as democratic as it can be. Correct me if I am wrong but Greenlight seemed to be presented in bad light :) And I wanted to somewhat change that perception in which I probably failed...
[QUOTE="Gamesterpheonix"]Im slightly confused right now. Couldnt you provide a clearer background?timma25
Guy makes game by himself and puts on kickstart Guy 2 talks smack about game and votes it low Lash back against guy 2 Guy 2 is now apologizing and playing PR manager. Apparently "aterdux_ent" is guy 2, cannot confirm or deny. Nope, it's all me. Our company put Legends of Eisenwald on Kickstarter. My name is Alexander, I am a head of this company, Aterdux Entertainment, producer, PR and other stuff. I comment on an article about Greenlight and put a link to our game there. By accident, I somehow managed to rate low a game that was discussed in the article. People start accusing me of doing bad stuff, I defend because I thought accusations are about me rating our game high and I think it's OK to rate your own stuff high. It turned out it was not the case, so I went and corrected the wrong low rating (which is default on gamespot). And as a result I feel quite a bit stupid :)
Well, I keep telling many of my friends and colleagues not to run down anyone or anything else, because (among all other things) it's just really bad PR. And to make this mistake myself, unintentional, is kind of stupid. Only excuse I have is that it was late and I wasn't paying too much attention randomly clicking here. The only reason I don't feel too bad about it is that it would be way too stupid a thing to do it on purpose :)
Not sure why this is such a big deal to the OP; who cares? Did Romney vote for Obama?
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If Romney voted for Obama and people found out, I'm pretty sure there's be a couple of stickies on OT forums That of course would have been a mistake by Romney and yes, it would make him look a bit stupid, but it's just a mistake, even though much larger in scope :) I did a mistake too, that makes me look quite a bit stupid but I don't think it's that big... And "worst kind" is an exaggeration, in my opinion... I think I am going to write a blog somewhere about our experience pn Greenlight just to provide a bit of a different view on the process. I don't like that many people could get an impression that Steam Greenlight is a hard and unforgiving process. We got some negative comments too, but there are many more good and encouraging comments. Also, having an existing community seems to help, and this is quite an advantage. Previews of our beta were mostly positive and it definitely helped too. Being on Greenlight seems like another campaign but not as intense as on Kickstarter.
By the way, I did some more checking on ratings here, it seems that by default it's 1/10! All it takes is a wrong click and the rating is there. I think the default should be 10/10, I really think no game deserves a rating of 1/10, every game has something, at least for effort. (it really takes tons of effort to put together even a small game).
We hope to release it in April! Beta is running right now and we receive quite a bit of feedback. While everyone seems to like graphics and core gameplay, lack of special effects, hints and tooltips doesn't make a great impression, good but not great... And we also got already a first not-so-positive preview, that was really helpful and made us think... So, for demo it might be a bit too early, we don't know yet. The release in April will be possible if we don't have to re-do a few things as a consequence of the beta test... And I am starting to become aftraid that we would have to :)
Maybe my posting was not appropriate but I didn't give that game a rating of 1/10! I didn't even know you can rate games here (because I tried to give our game high rating and I couldn't, I thought first that I was accused of giving my game high rating). But yes, I found this on my profile later and I reset it. For this I apologize, combined with my post it made a really bad impression. To make up for it, I posted a link to "I get this call every day" in our Greenlight comments and for what it's worth, I think that while I probably won't play that game I think it's interesting. Running down other games is not a good thing. On Kickstarter we recommended and supported many games, and still do.
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