Well im going to pray for the best an follow the advice of (175w power supply on, On consule and power cord box, and manufactured after 8/24/07) but I will tell you guys how it works tomorrow.

I also tried to buy a refurbished one.OMG worst decision of my life. I put GTA IV in an it said "starting a new game" then when the screen went black. After about a hour (it was still black) I reset it and... RROD. I didnt evn get to play it = /. So im getting the ARCADE tomorrow. I would wait for the price drop, but I dont know, Im a try this first, if I cant find the suggested info on the !&%w an falcon chips and all that, I will most likely take it back Sunday and get the PRO for 300 or w/e. Even though I know it will be sold out.

"wtf u mean by brand? the all the 360s are same each box has differnet things but all 360 has falcon chips now so ya"

Umm, I think they were trying to tell me the dates (after8/24/07) is when they started putting the falcon boards and chips in the newer manufactured systems. No need to get upset...

So how long did you have to wait for each 360 to come back in the mail? THat seems like a hassel. So basically no-matter what, my 360 will break.:(

Thank You alot. I appreciate your time and help with this. I wish I could hug you guys, lol (no homo But really thanks.

Oh yeah, and I dont mind buying a HD in the future.

"As long as the console is made after July 2007 it will have the falcon chip and the likely hood of RROD is lower. So it dosent matter what model you get just check the date on the back."

Are you absolutely sure of this? Is it on the box it comes in, or do I have to pull the consule out at he counter and check it?

"the 20gb costs $100 by itself so why not just pay only $30 extra for a premium."

69.99, but Thanks still. You guys are helping me decide.