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#1 WhiteKnight77
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@blaznwiipspman1 said:
@elpresador-911 said:

@R3FURBISHED: politifact is a George Soros owned website lmaooo it has zero credibility

that is more of the COCK brothers propoganda. Politifact is owned by an ebay founder, Pierre Omidiyar. Republicans are seriously messed up in the head to believe all these crazy conspiracy theories about Hilary Clinton. Not even a president can do half the shit the dumb right wing nut jobs think hilary supposedly did. What would Hilary have to gain from selling uranium to russia in this fictional fairy tail you repubterds like to tell? Face it, you have been fed bullshit fake news from fox news and you come here sounding like retards. The brainwashing program needs to be undone before you nut jobs can enter society safely again.

No, Polifact is not owned by the eBay founder. It is in fact owned by the Tampa Bay Times, who is actually owned by Times Publishing, a part of the Poytner Institute for Media Studies. The Principles of PolitiFact, PunditFact and the Truth-O-Meter shows exactly that. Still, Politifact is a biased organization who shows no consistency with its ratings and is discussed at PolitiFact Denies Its Own Left-Wing Bias and Running The Data On PolitiFact Shows Bias Against Conservatives.

“Mostly False” is PolitiFact’s most frequent rating for Republicans who aren’t named Trump (more on that in the next piece). PolitiFact often rates statements that are largely true but come from a GOP sources as “mostly false” by focusing on sentence alterations, simple mis-statements, fact-checking the wrong fact, and even taking a statement, rewording it, and fact-checking the re-worded statement instead of the original quoted statement.

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Trump's supporters in rural America and the flyover states probably don't even know what the Oscars is nor do they have internet or TV to watch anyway.

And you know this how?

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From the looks of things, they do not. This young woman expresses her, as well as possibly other's, thoughts on what she thinks is right for her country.

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Why can a European country's people express their thoughts on such without being labeled racist?

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Pope quietly trims sanctions for sex abusers seeking mercy as a way of showing that the church is merciful, even though one case now haunts him after one priest was convicted in an Italian court, now has to have a second church trial against that priest.

Do these priests deserve mercy?

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#5  Edited By WhiteKnight77
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@Maroxad said:

States rights is like free speech. It only matters when it agrees with my agenda.

@Gaming-Planet said:

Gotta rev up those private prisons to fill the pockets of the state and corporatists.

This a stupid and a counter-productive move. Weed made cancer treatment so much more tolerable for me.

What? :S

Cannibinol or THC does ease nausea from chemo treatments. My Pops was given Marinol, which is a synthesized version of it, so he would also eat more. When he died, he maybe weighed 90 pounds, down from his normal weight of 140-145 Lbs. due to chemo for lung cancer.

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Not like they are today. We didn't have the plethora of social media outlets. Heck, Myspace, who was pretty much the first social media website, wasn't even around 15 years ago. Something may have been pulled in Timbuktu, but we didn't know about it in BFE.

So let's get this clear...you think that the complaints are a "smear campaign" and amount to people losing their "free expression." Yet the ONLY thing that happened here is that social media allowed peoples' voices to be heard by more people?

That's a VERY strange position to take. Use the internet in order to get more people to hear about how you don't like something? Oh no, increased support against a cause means loss of free expression. But, use the internet to get crowdfunding for a project or get exposure for your songs and paintings? people seem to be a-okay with that. I don't seem to hear any anti-SJW's complaining about how the internet lets them more easily get their anti-SJW rants heard. This whole "but, mah free expression" thing only ever really seems to come up when the issue in question is something that the person disagrees with.

So, to clarify things...this is a smear campaign and infringes on free expression SOLELY because social media made the complaints have a bigger impact? That seems to be a pretty hypocritical stance to take. Most people use the advantages of social media all the time and have zero issue with it, but the second that someone who we DISAGREE with decides to effectively use social media for THEIR agenda, it's like, "OMG, what about free expression"? Is that where we're going with this?

Whether it is a smear campaign or not does not make a difference. The only thing I am stating is that the internet and social media has changed how everything is perceived nowadays. What once was just a small issue of a few people in some city is now an issue everywhere. I don't care if X are doing such and such or are doing this or that in Buffalo, I do not live up there. If store Y wants to sell Z, I really do not care. There are thin-skinned people on both sides of the equation. Maybe it is due to where I grew up and in which time where I am not so appalled at a nursery rhyme (again, that is how I learned it) being on a t-shirt. I also do not get offended for others as we see people do nowadays.

As far crowdfunding, I am not a big supporter of it. While there might be some good come out of it, we also have seen how it can be used for bullshit (a rich woman using it to send her daughter to a camp to make a video game for one). Pay your dues like those before you. If you are good, your work sells or you get a record contract.

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@LJS9502_basic said:
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Firstly, how the hell is a "smear campaign" inherently at odds with free expression?

Firstly, YES my freedom of expression allows me to do a "smear campaign" if I want. If it involves something criminal like death threats, then I can be arrested and put in jail. If it involves something like libel or slander then they can sue my ass off. But I'm hearing "smear campaign" a lot when what really happened is nothing more than "someone complaining and then telling everyone who'll listen how offended they were".

If THAT is what we're talking about as far as a "smear campaign", then how is that at odds with free expression? By that standard, and social action that garners attention would be a "smear campaign". Want to organize a protest? Well, protests are designed to be visible and garner attention. SMEAR CAMPAIGN!

But hey...I just read the article. I'm assuming that you have more knowledge of this incident and can enlighten me on details that weren't included in the linked article. For my own enlightenment, how EXACTLY were anyone's free expressions violated and what EXACTLY do you mean when you call something a "smear campaign"?

Nowadays, with everyone having a way to reach so many people at once, people who complain are more visible. Before the internet, one person complaining might reach 10 people and now with the internet, one can reach millions. As it is nowadays, practically everyone has something to complain about, or get offended about, and broadcast about it. Even 15 years ago, this t-shirt would still be on the shelf even with one complaint.

Still, too many people are too damned thin-skinned nowadays.

15 years ago products were removed because of complaints. This is not true that this is a new phenomena. And the business has a RIGHT and the FREEDOM to decide if carrying a product is worth losing their goodwill.

Not like they are today. We didn't have the plethora of social media outlets. Heck, Myspace, who was pretty much the first social media website, wasn't even around 15 years ago. Something may have been pulled in Timbuktu, but we didn't know about it in BFE.

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If no wrong doing was found, then why did courts say otherwise? As it is, no, he cannot so such.

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@playmynutz said:

A dog received millions from inheritance. What do animals even want from the government? They don't offer anything worth voting for to a dog.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2001471/Trouble-dog-inherited-12m-billionaire-Leona-Helmsley-dies.html

Leona Helmsley was not right in the head as it was. It should not have come as a surprise that she left that money to her pooch.

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@MrGeezer said:
@hillelslovak said:

That is a false analogy. This is not an employee being fired. An employer signs a consensual agreement with their employees, and can choose to fire them. It is a smear campaign by certain publications that cultivated outrage and forced a product to be taken off the shelf because of their feelings. This is not freedom of expression through omission. This is not speech, it is a self imposed censorship.

Firstly, how the hell is a "smear campaign" inherently at odds with free expression?

Firstly, YES my freedom of expression allows me to do a "smear campaign" if I want. If it involves something criminal like death threats, then I can be arrested and put in jail. If it involves something like libel or slander then they can sue my ass off. But I'm hearing "smear campaign" a lot when what really happened is nothing more than "someone complaining and then telling everyone who'll listen how offended they were".

If THAT is what we're talking about as far as a "smear campaign", then how is that at odds with free expression? By that standard, and social action that garners attention would be a "smear campaign". Want to organize a protest? Well, protests are designed to be visible and garner attention. SMEAR CAMPAIGN!

But hey...I just read the article. I'm assuming that you have more knowledge of this incident and can enlighten me on details that weren't included in the linked article. For my own enlightenment, how EXACTLY were anyone's free expressions violated and what EXACTLY do you mean when you call something a "smear campaign"?

Nowadays, with everyone having a way to reach so many people at once, people who complain are more visible. Before the internet, one person complaining might reach 10 people and now with the internet, one can reach millions. As it is nowadays, practically everyone has something to complain about, or get offended about, and broadcast about it. Even 15 years ago, this t-shirt would still be on the shelf even with one complaint.

Still, too many people are too damned thin-skinned nowadays.