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#1 Trollsters
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[QUOTE="mourninguser1"][QUOTE="Trollsters"][QUOTE="Videodogg"]

If a man kills a pregnant woman, does that count as two deaths? Then whats the difference if a woman kills the baby?

Havent thought of that, and yes it does! there have been many cases such as DUIs where a man was tried and sentanced for the death of an unborn baby. so why, was this not just considered an abortion?

Because it wasn't his decision to make to "abort" the fetus.

ah but dont u see? he was tried for murder but by your logic he only killed a bunch of cells.
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#2 Trollsters
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[QUOTE="ADF_Game"][QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

You'll get no such reason from me. Without those 3 things our society wouldn't be here at all, and we'd be in total anarchy with no morals or laws. Laws were created because of morals, which have their roots in religion.

And this explains everything... he's one of those.

and your one of them, you judge people just because they have a strong religious background. Thats just as wrong as someone judging you because you do not.
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#3 Trollsters
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If a man kills a pregnant woman, does that count as two deaths? Then whats the difference if a woman kills the baby?

Videodogg
Havent thought of that, and yes it does! there have been many cases such as DUIs where a man was tried and sentanced for the death of an unborn baby. so why, was this not just considered an abortion?
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#4 Trollsters
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[QUOTE="ScorpionBeeBee"]

[QUOTE="Trollsters"][QUOTE="ScorpionBeeBee"]

Ugh soo many bleeding hearts for the unborn. But once you pop out of the vag these people will drop you like a ton of bricks. Can someone tell me how an unfit mother getting an abortion early in her pregnancy affects YOU, at all, in the slightest of ways? If everything is done right and with proper confidentiality you will never even know anything happened.

Why must an unfit mother who decides on her own to get an abortion not have that option available? She opened her legs and now she has to have the child as punishment? Yes, unwanted children are a great boon to society, I'm sure the pro-lifers are all on adoption waiting lists so these poor unwanted souls have a loving family to go to. Oh wait, most don't want to adopt any kids at all, ok so I bet these pro-lifers are all for creating a social safety net so these kids at least have access to the services and goods they need to have a chance in this world. Wait what, you might have to raise taxes to care for the unwanted children? Yikes, can't have that, so what now? Abortion is a such a non-issue in the real world but the lengths people go for Feti rights is absurd if it wasn't so meaningless.

Go fight world hunger in Africa or all the poor children in this country that are starving and in desperate need of healtcare and education, thats if you want to make a real impact on the world, not chase the wind.

an unfit mother shouldnt be having sex. oh look problem solved and nobody was KILLED in the process.

Still haven't answered how this affects YOU, personally, in the slightest. And does it bother you that humans have sex? Often, Gasp! before they are married and sometimes on a whim if they are in the right mood? But instead of taking care of a problem (unwanted pregnancy that WILL affect someones dreams and ambitions big-time) and nipping it in the bud so to speak they must be forced to carry to term as a punishment?

Why? Why get so emotionally invested in this? Zomg dead fetuses the end of the world is nigh! But truthfully not really, 1.4 MILLION babies pureed in just Amurrica every year and the world is spinning like it ever was, the stock markets opened and closed today and the sky is in fact, still blue. Manufactured outrage over nothing is what it is, and fortunately the law of the land errs on the side of rationality this time. Woman's body, her choice, period. Whine and moan all you want but you keep your grubby paws and laws off a woman's right to control the destiny of her body. Anything else is downright fascist and a blow to personal freedom.

My reasoning for being pro life is my religion. the bible says from the moment you are concieved god wrote your name on his hand and loved you. You are killing a child of God that has no voice in the matter. Also, my mother got pregnant when she was 17, my grandfather told her if she aborted me he would buy her a brand new car and pay for her college, but like me, she belives its murder. There was no choice in the matter.
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#5 Trollsters
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[QUOTE="nervmeister"][QUOTE="mourninguser1"][QUOTE="racer8dan"]

[QUOTE="ScorpionBeeBee"]

Ugh soo many bleeding hearts for the unborn. But once you pop out of the vag these people will drop you like a ton of bricks. Can someone tell me how an unfit mother getting an abortion early in her pregnancy affects YOU, at all, in the slightest of ways? If everything is done right and with proper confidentiality you will never even know anything happened.

Why must an unfit mother who decides on her own to get an abortion not have that option available? She opened her legs and now she has to have the child as punishment? Yes, unwanted children are a great boon to society, I'm sure the pro-lifers are all on adoption waiting lists so these poor unwanted souls have a loving family to go to. Oh wait, most don't want to adopt any kids at all, ok so I bet these pro-lifers are all for creating a social safety net so these kids at least have access to the services and goods they need to have a chance in this world. Wait what, you might have to raise taxes to care for the unwanted children? Yikes, can't have that, so what now? Abortion is a such a non-issue in the real world but the lengths people go for Feti rights is absurd if it wasn't so meaningless.

Go fight world hunger in Africa or all the poor children in this country that are starving and in desperate need of healtcare and education, thats if you want to make a real impact on the world, not chase the wind.

What if Thomas Edison or George Washington Carvers parents aborted? Or any other person that have greatly benifited mankind? Yes it CAN affect ME.

What if Adolf Hitler was aborted?

ever play red alert? Stalin would of been worse than hitler
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#6 Trollsters
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Have you pro choicers heard about the problem china is currently facing? in the current generation of people age 18-30 there is 1 woman for ever 4 men. This is because of population control measures taken by the government where a family can only have 1 child. So a family will abort untill they get a healthy boy. So now 3/4 men will go un married and probobly never even feel the touch of a woman. This is the slippery slope that is abortion.
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#7 Trollsters
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[QUOTE="Trollsters"][QUOTE="mourninguser1"] If you invited them you'd get charged with murder for shooting them anyway, their mental state is irrelevant at that point. Also I like how it's the pro-lifers bringing up analogies involving "shooting them on your property". Oh stereotypes.nervmeister
actaully someone pro choice brought that up a few pages ago using the arguement that your body is your property and u can shoot someone thats uninvited.

Yeah. I'll admit, it was rather cruel of me to crap out that tapeworm that so desperately needed the nutrients from my intestines.

yet another crappy analogy, this time its literally crappy.....
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#8 Trollsters
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[QUOTE="binpink"]

[QUOTE="jeremiah06"]

[QUOTE="Lockedge"] life > melodramatic feminism.

Making an actual realistic point > denial and sexism

If that's how you treat the women in your life and what you think of them, I feel sorry for them.

but inequality for an unborn child is ok.................Trollsters

Correct.

The women in my life agree with me. i dont associate with people that belive murder is ok, not my type of crowd.
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#9 Trollsters
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[QUOTE="Trollsters"][QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

An unborn child inside a woman's uterus did not "break and enter." It was created by the woman and the man she had sex with, which equates to an invitation inside the house. The fact that the life was created by the 2 people having sex puts it in a whole different league to me, but an invitation is the best comparison there is.

did i say it did? im pro life dude.... i was just showing that your analogy is flawed and incorrect.

There is no proper analogy to an unborn child in a mother's womb.. I think the idea of a mentally-challenged person being invited inside one's property is the best one there is. Neither the baby or the mentally challenged person may have the ability to think or act for themselves.. but nonetheless, they were invited (or created in the case of a fetus).

if you invite anybody on your property you cant shoot them, even if u ask them to leave and they dont. castle doctrine only involves breaking and entering.
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#10 Trollsters
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[QUOTE="ScorpionBeeBee"]

Ugh soo many bleeding hearts for the unborn. But once you pop out of the vag these people will drop you like a ton of bricks. Can someone tell me how an unfit mother getting an abortion early in her pregnancy affects YOU, at all, in the slightest of ways? If everything is done right and with proper confidentiality you will never even know anything happened.

Why must an unfit mother who decides on her own to get an abortion not have that option available? She opened her legs and now she has to have the child as punishment? Yes, unwanted children are a great boon to society, I'm sure the pro-lifers are all on adoption waiting lists so these poor unwanted souls have a loving family to go to. Oh wait, most don't want to adopt any kids at all, ok so I bet these pro-lifers are all for creating a social safety net so these kids at least have access to the services and goods they need to have a chance in this world. Wait what, you might have to raise taxes to care for the unwanted children? Yikes, can't have that, so what now? Abortion is a such a non-issue in the real world but the lengths people go for Feti rights is absurd if it wasn't so meaningless.

Go fight world hunger in Africa or all the poor children in this country that are starving and in desperate need of healtcare and education, thats if you want to make a real impact on the world, not chase the wind.

an unfit mother shouldnt be having sex. oh look problem solved and nobody was KILLED in the process.