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[QUOTE="craig170591"]So it wouldn't make a difference if i bought an hdmi to dvi cable, the picture quality would still be the same as the component cable. Does it not matter if the signal is coming from the av multi out rather than the hdmi socket. P.S. Would the picture quality be any better if the tv had an hdmi socket on it.



For PS2 you have no choice but component.  For PS3 DVI and HDMI have the same quality.  High quality component can also give you the same quality as DVI/HDMI, but you are better off with the digital cables, as high quality component cables are a lot more expensive. 

If your TV had both DVI and HDMI there wouldn't be any difference in quality.  Both accept the same digital signal, it is just a different connector.  And in the case of DVI, it doesn't carry audio like HDMI.
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I have this tv http://www.unbeatable.co.uk/p_spc/LG-RZ32LZ55-32-in-HDTV-Ready-LCD-Television/27660712.html I am currently using this cable for my ps2 http://www.game.co.uk/ViewProduct.aspx?cat=10314&mid=324967 will this give me an hd picture, or does it have to come from the hdmi socket on the back of the ps3? Would an hdmi to dvi converter give a better picture?(I would probably get the sound from external speakers).

P.S. is this tv 720i, 720p, 1080i, or 1080p

P.P.S. can i get my tv to do better than 576i with my ps2. If so how?

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To answer your questions:
* The TV is a HD set, so you are OK for any HD video sources like a PS3, HD cable/satellite, BD/HD-DVD player.
* The cable is component and might be capable of taking HD signals, however, PS2 is not capable of generating them, so you are stuck at the best 480p.  You can try plugging the cable in a PS3 and see if the quality is good, if not you'll need a better one or a HDMI cable.
* A HDMI to DVI converter will not give you a better picture.  It is only an adaptor to transfer the same digital signal on a different connector.  You will need a separate audio connection with it.
* Technically speaking, the TV has a PC monitor resolution, but can be considered a 720p (768p native)
* Again, NO you can't get PS2 to give you a higher resolution.  That's why you need a PS3 :D
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I own a jvc t.v that displays1125i.What is this??have i been sold a mickey mouse T.V?It does not a hdmi slot but the usual vga, component, rca or svideo.will my ps3 look a stinker?

Help please.
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That vertical scan (it is a CRT, right?) is not standard in the USA.   Is it european?  Knowing the model would help :)
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[QUOTE="jwmakoto"]Alright, so I'm looking at this tv... http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=7867338&productCategoryId=pcmcat95100050006&type=product&tab=1&id=1142301899352 for my room. Pretty decent price atm, and from what I can tell, the contrast ratio is ok (if on the low end... 1000:1) the brightness (550cd/m2) is decent I think.... in fact the only thing I'm not quite sure on is the refresh time. I've heard for gaming, I'll basically want 8ms or lower... is that just for computer monitors, or will it apply to normal TVs as well? I'm assuming it will, but it's not listed here... So in short, does this look like a decent 720p tv for gaming? And yes, I'm aware of some of the other alternatives, however this one's pretty cheap ;) Edit: Also, this has both HDMI and component cable input, so all the better...



Looks OK, but there is no mention of the refresh.  If it is 12mS or lower it should be OK for gaming (obviously you want 8 or lower).  You need to find out the refresh before you make up your mind.  It does apply to TV and computer screens.  If the salesperson can't give you a straight answer then ask to hook up a game system to the set and look for "ghosting" (smears during fast action).  If you see any then the set is not game worthy :D
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BTW Toyoarmy, DVD is 720x480p not 720p. DVD is not high definition.
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[QUOTE="Alyxm1"][QUOTE="KevinIsDaBomb"]I have a HDTV that can produce 1080i is that considered a true HD image?




DUDE!! 720P IS TRUE HD!! hehehehehe



720p and 1080i are the formats that are part of the HDTV standard.  So both are "true" HD.  Anything else above that is icing on the cake (like 1080p)
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[QUOTE="Thanos_of_MW"][QUOTE="slayer423"][QUOTE="toyoarmy"]

[QUOTE="slayer423"]why is it a pain, do you mean like watching i kinda big tv in your room or pain by like it is really bright? lol this might be kinda dumb question but i dont want to buy the wrong tv cause im on a small budget and dont really have that much money.toyoarmy

well...

Actually problem is the Light.

There are two kinds of light.

1: Light by light ( heh heh sounds like stupid...heh heh :D ) : it has less problem with eyes when we play games long time ( LCD and DLP, Plasma use light anyway)

2: Light by electronics ( CRT uses electronic guns, and shoot electronics, electronics hit the Shadow-Mask, Bam ! then there some lights apears ) This Electro-light is really bad for our eyes, That's what I wanted to say to you.

Game is game, money is money...sometimes we don't have them, but oneday we can have them.

But your eyes, health...once its gone bad, never came back. I know what you saying, but If you could do, get some time to make some more money for better(for your eyes) display. If you can't, please good care of your eyes when you watch CRT (distance, filter, making brighter your room....those gonna help your eyes little bit more)

thanks, yea i donyt want to end up blind haha



Not quite. CRT and plasma produce light by exciting phosphor (don't know where that "electro-light" came from). CRTs use an electron gun (which BTW, hitting the shadow mask DOESN'T make light) and plasma uses electrically charged gas.
The problem of eyes getting tired according to what I've read from medical reports is that your eyes are trying to focus on something that isn't there (the glow of the CRT/plasma) as a solid, but it is just light. That is the reason why LCD screens are better on your eyes, as they are crystals blocking light and your eyes can focus on them (being solid). If you work with PCs all day you can easily compare a CRT screen and a LCD. You don't feel so tired when you are staring at a LCD screen all day :D

Good one, but I was saying about physical-damage by light for eyes, you talked about tire-rate of eyes.CRT and plasma have totally different light systems. as you said, shadow mask can't make light itself, then what kind of light do you see when you watch crt? I talked about 2 kinds light, but as we knew, theres more, like natural ones ( sunlight, anylights from something burn...), electric bulbs( different lights and effects from different filaments(nikel,chroms...) and charged gas), CRT, Laser, even X-ray...every light have different spectrums, even some are visible-ray, some are not. long term base physical damage to our eyes is totally different from every lights, but sure thing is close ones to natural lights is good for eyes and health, thats why all electric bulb campanies are trying to make more natural-like light today. laser, crt light,x ray...thesekinda by electronics special effects or conflict...its visible and invisible rays could give us more worse effects when we see them or hit by them.



That's the other issue :D  Yes, CRTs put out X-rays, so it is wise to sit away from them.  The spectrum of the light doesn't affect your sight, just your mood :wink:
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[QUOTE="Thanos_of_MW"][QUOTE="0rin"]I'm an idiot, and I don't know hardly anything about TV's. So... could someone tell me if this TV would output 720p, and 1080p?0rin


Nope. That is a 720p set, so its native resolution is 1280x720. Other signals get downconverted to 720p

Ok, but it also does 1080i (i know that much).. so.. what is a better picture? 1080i or 720p? i would assume 1080i.. but i dunno...



To give you a simple and straight answer:  1080i is sharper (1920x1080@30Hz), but you will see artifacts (screen tear, pixelation, etc) on fast moving scenes.  720p is not as sharp (1280x720@60Hz) but it is great for fast action on screen.  That's the reason why 1080p sets are the best.  You have the sharpness of 1080 and the clean image of 720.

For gaming it depends on your budget.  If 1080p is not an option (too expensive) you have to pick what suits you best.  I've been using a 360 with the 1080i output on a 1080i set and I can't see any problems even in fast paced games.  It is more of an issue with TV watching.
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[QUOTE="toyoarmy"]

[QUOTE="slayer423"]why is it a pain, do you mean like watching i kinda big tv in your room or pain by like it is really bright? lol this might be kinda dumb question but i dont want to buy the wrong tv cause im on a small budget and dont really have that much money.slayer423

well...

Actually problem is the Light.

There are two kinds of light.

1: Light by light ( heh heh sounds like stupid...heh heh :D ) : it has less problem with eyes when we play games long time ( LCD and DLP, Plasma use light anyway)

2: Light by electronics ( CRT uses electronic guns, and shoot electronics, electronics hit the Shadow-Mask, Bam ! then there some lights apears ) This Electro-light is really bad for our eyes, That's what I wanted to say to you.

Game is game, money is money...sometimes we don't have them, but oneday we can have them.

But your eyes, health...once its gone bad, never came back. I know what you saying, but If you could do, get some time to make some more money for better(for your eyes) display. If you can't, please good care of your eyes when you watch CRT (distance, filter, making brighter your room....those gonna help your eyes little bit more)

thanks, yea i donyt want to end up blind haha



Not quite. CRT and plasma produce light by exciting phosphor (don't know where that "electro-light" came from). CRTs use an electron gun (which BTW, hitting the shadow mask DOESN'T make light) and plasma uses electrically charged gas.
The problem of eyes getting tired according to what I've read from medical reports is that your eyes are trying to focus on something that isn't there (the glow of the CRT/plasma) as a solid, but it is just light. That is the reason why LCD screens are better on your eyes, as they are crystals blocking light and your eyes can focus on them (being solid). If you work with PCs all day you can easily compare a CRT screen and a LCD. You don't feel so tired when you are staring at a LCD screen all day :D