[QUOTE="Sammojo"]

[QUOTE="Zero5000X"]10ProjectPat187

I like it how all the posts about this kind of thing are ignored. And how the post about how the PS3 didn't have problems got completely ignored. If there isn't a game on PS3 you don't want to play then you have something wrong with you or just don't like games, and that has no implications on the PS3 being any less, and not shining. If MGS4 is the first game you put in your PS3 then you have been wasting your own time and money, and wasting ours by posting your opinions, because if you don't like any other game on PS3 enough to buy it and use in a console you payed $400US for, then something, again, is wrong.

Waste of time working for the money you used to buy it. Send me the pic of your dusty console, and I'll send you a picture of me laughing at you for wasting a few hundered dollars on something you haven't used. It didn't suck, it didn't have as many great titles as 360, but it FAR from sucked. There were enough multiplats to occupy you, and if you had both consoels and prefered the 360's controls and layout then ofcourse you would play them on that. You are saying 360 had more exclusives which is a completely different argument.

Your opinion became worthless to me the moment you failed to use a fullstop, and became sealed away after the entire paragraph ended with no punctuation. I am not saying PS3 was better in the past, just that using the fact that you didn't play it doesn't make it any worse or prove anything, it only makes you seem silly for spending money on something you didn't use.

Gears 2 is going to destroy Uncharted and MGS4's muddy textures.

PS3_3DO

Generally what happens when a game comes out a year or two later...

Stop comparing to crysis, it is so useless. You need a $1300+ rig to run that game on full, much more than any of the consoles.

Gotta disagree with ya here bro. Nobody is sayin that the PS3 games are unplayable. But it does suck that before MGS4 there werent any damn good games except for the multiplats.AT1JOHNSON

Ninja Gaiden Sigma, Uncharted, R&C... Suie yourself. Not saying they are the best games ever, but If you have a PS3, seems a waste to not have played any of these.

very funny, check the facts, please.

Devil May Cry 4 = 1280x720 (2xAA, temporal) on ps3, by the way , you know what temporal AA means?:)

Devil May Cry 4 = 1280x720 (2xAA) on xb360

GTA IV

1152x640 (no AA) ON PS3

1280x 720P(2xAA) ON XB360

AND gta4 framerate analysis

Test1
Old 360: 31.990fps
Old PS3: 26.460fps
New 360: 31.627fps (3.77% torn frames)
New PS3: 26.504fps

Test2
Old 360: 28.624fps
Old PS3: 23.452fps
New 360: 29.233fps (4.26% torn frames)
New PS3: 23.989fps

Test3
Old 360: 35.252fps
Old PS3: 29.041fps
New 360: 35.662fps (2.37% torn frames)
New PS3: 29.523fps

Test4
Old 360: 26.076fps
Old PS3: 26.081fps
New 360: 26.015fps (6.07% torn frames)
New PS3: 25.803fps

Test5
Old 360: 26.712fps
Old PS3: 23.781fps
New 360: 26.507fps (4.9% torn frames)
New PS3: 23.781fps

Test6
Old 360: 33.798fps
Old PS3: 28.313fps
New 360: 33.713fps (2.35% torn frames)
New PS3: 28.313fps

http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=48001

jrpgliker

Source for the Resolution info please. In regards to framerate:

1. difference between 25fps and 30fps isn't visible to the human eye.

2. FPS doesn not equal visual quality.

Yes they are facts, but they are not necesaarily relevant.

If you can see a difference then I can see Santa Claus in the background.

And no, Temporal AA has no real effect on the visual quality as neither game is running as 60FPS, another useless fact.

[QUOTE="Sammojo"]

The comparisons like GTA IV, Oblivion and DMC4? Check your facts lemming.

TOC48

I am just stating the facts.:)

[QUOTE="Sammojo"]

[QUOTE="TOC48"]I hate to break it to you sony lovers out there but as of now the Xbox 360 is winning in sales has a better selection of games and beside the reasons because the xbox came out earlier, any multiplatform game looks better on the Xbox 360. Watch all the comparisons.3picuri3

The comparisons like GTA IV, Oblivion and DMC4? Check your facts lemming.

lol, are you seriously trying to claim all 3 are better? please don't even try to go there. and im no lemming. GTAIV only like 2 outlets said PS3 better, majority said 360. Fact. draw distance better on 360 in GTAIV - fact. oblivion same on both after the final patches - fact. dmc4??? are you serious? who cares - it sucked :P

Majority, nice fact. I read 20 reviews of GTA IV. 2 said Ps3, the rest said there was no Difference at all. The poster said ANY MULTIPLAT looks better on 360. You just said yourself that Oblivion looks the same. Notice I didn't say it looked better on PS3, only that the 360 version wasn't better. COD4 another game which has no differences (I have seen both with my own eyes and looked that up). And not I am not "lol, seriously trying to claim all 3 are better", I am saying that they are NOT better on 360, andTOC48 has no idea what he is talking about. DMC4 - 8.0. If an 8 sucks then we can stop this argument right now because I am not prepared to have a conversation with ignorance.

"oblivion same on both after the final patches - fact." - Thanks for supporting my argument.

I hate to break it to you sony lovers out there but as of now the Xbox 360 is winning in sales has a better selection of games and beside the reasons because the xbox came out earlier, any multiplatform game looks better on the Xbox 360. Watch all the comparisons.TOC48

The comparisons like GTA IV, Oblivion and DMC4? Check your facts lemming.

Since the games you mentioned are all exclusive to the PS3, it's hard to say that that means the PS3 is graphically better than the 360. There is nothing to suggest that the 360 couldn't run them identically. But, yes, Uncharted is great, I'm not too sure about MGS4 and GT5P.

SgtWhiskeyjack

360 could not run uncharted because it's on blu-ray and is too big. There is no point comparing Multiplats because the differences are just due to the devs and not really the systems (and results aren't consistent). Gears looks great, but that is the only visually outstanding exclusive on the 360. Uncharted looks great also, but to decide this, I am guessing it will have to be a comparison between Killzone 2 and Gears 2.

10Zero5000X

I like it how all the posts about this kind of thing are ignored. And how the post about how the PS3 didn't have problems got completely ignored. If there isn't a game on PS3 you don't want to play then you have something wrong with you or just don't like games, and that has no implications on the PS3 being any less, and not shining. If MGS4 is the first game you put in your PS3 then you have been wasting your own time and money, and wasting ours by posting your opinions, because if you don't like any other game on PS3 enough to buy it and use in a console you payed $400US for, then something, again, is wrong.

[QUOTE="jlh47"]

a casual game is something like say Little Big Planet. something you play to pass the time. a party game. something you play for an hour or two with friends.

a hardcore game is something like fallout, baldurs gate, metal gear solid.

EDIT: Any Bioware game will do.

sparkypants

how is this a party game?!?!? :shock: this is an online based game where you create your own world and character and then explore it with other people around the world, playing games and interacting. Its a game you the creator build from the ground up. How is this casual? a casual game is something like madden or halo!

Stop arguing like a cow, it is embarrising that a lvl 21 can be so ignorant about games. Halo 3 is not casual (not that it's as good as it is made out to be either, but for the purposes of this argument...). LBP is casual, but since when does being casual stop anything from being good. GTA IV was casual, MGS4 wasn't, both got 10's. Super Smash Bros Brawl was casual - one of the best games on Wii.

What the thinking PS3 supporters are saying is that there are now enough good PS3 games out that there is no need to wait for anything. Reminding everyone of Resistance 2, Killzone 2, LBP and all the others which are ou, is not the just wait argument, it is the "PS3 isn't running out of games any time soon" argument. It is also part of the "PS3 is not losing all of it's good exclusives to PC" argument.

360 owners will say no, PS3 owners will say yes. The truth is, people without a PS3 don't see much of it, hence don't know much about it. A lot of people have 360's and so opinions are easily made. Check out what the PS3 has yourself and make your own descision, because the ones people are making for you will be wrong.

If you like advernture games, then Uncharted is definately something you should play. Ratchet and Clank also, if you are into that. While you are at it, you might as well throw in MGS4, just for the sake of having the game which got a 10 on Gamespot and IGN. Games like Ninja Gaiden Sigma and Heavenly Sword are great adventure titles. If you like the looks of those then there is no harm in getting a PS3. The future line-up is very strong, with a lot of exclusive sequels coming up.