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@RedWave247: You literally said "the best way to experience a psychological thriller is in film form or book." Why can't video games have a great one, too?

That sentence says that books are better at telling stories than videogames and movies. There's no discussion about that and if there's an exception, I'd like to hear about it.

What would you do in a Schindler List game? You want it to be a graphical novel? What genre would you have that game be?

Wouldn't a movie be a better depiction of that story? I'm not saying that it couldn't be a videogame but there's already a better medium to portray that story.

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@RedWave247: I never said VG can't be a certain literary genre. What I'm arguing against is your claim that videogame doesn't have to be fun. People have different taste for a variety of genres and they like them because it brings them satisfaction to be engrossed by that genre/theme. You wouldn't finish your games if it felt like a chore would you? I just saw a gameplay of Papers Please and its a point and click game with some appealing concepts far from the depiction you painted it to be.

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@zmanbarzel: It's just a mediocre "video game". Interactive stories is what I'd rather call them; you'd find that stuff on NatGeo Kidz or something.

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@RedWave247: Bioshock is a stand out on your list because it had a decent gameplay. As for Spec Ops the line? C'mon man, the dull gameplay was in the way of the story and the best way to experience a psychological thriller is in the film form or a book.

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@zmanbarzel: Being part of the story in a videogame requires you to be immersed interactively. Or else, you're just watching a movie.

David Cage games have good plots at times for a videogame but usually fails to capture people's interest by QTEing players to oblivion.

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@RedWave247: "The serious games with thought provoking or darker narratives wouldn't really fall into that category."

List games that you consider excellent in that category.

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@domiddian: Bethesda does not send out review copies like every other devs.

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@RedWave247: I'm not confused here. You said videogames don't have to be fun, which I agree but those games tend to be a drab. To engage or like someone said, to compel someone to play something, the gameplay has to be good (not necessarily complex). You can have a game with mediocre story like Mario Bros but master pieces videogames. Meanwhile, you can have games with excellent stories like Spec Ops: The Line and be an average game.

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@RedWave247: They're better TOLD while reading or watching. Those games that you refer will never match the interactivity of Zelda, Halo or Super Mario. The best medium to experience The Walking Dead is through the television series. That's the medium the storytelling is better told.

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@RedWave247: Why not stick to interactive movies? Video game is a hobby of interactive fun, primarily. You cannot compare movies and games because they pursue different goals. You can never compare Shawshank Redemption with Super Mario Bros.

Some of their qualities inter lap, like storytelling and visual settings but they differ. That's why people hate quick time events in games. It removes them from the physical immersion that you don't find in films.

The best way to tell a story like Shawshank Redemption is to read a book or watch a movie.