No. Not after the monotonous slogs that were P3 and 4. I would need to see whether they're bringing back the miserable dredge known as social links to see whether I should be interested in this.

I can not understand why anyone would ever pick Tooie ever. It's a game built around wasting your time with menial, tedious bullshit.

It's pretty telling that that summary is mostly made up a plot dump that happens in the last couple hours of the game, and even then most of it is fan-theory and doesn't account for the numerous plot holes (such as how Schala could possibly be fused with Lavos when Lavos has already been destroyed, or why FATE goes out of its way to openly antagonize and harm people for no apparent reason after it has already succeeded it's motivations, or why Lynx needed to steal Serge's body just so he could get passed a fucking door he could've easily destroyed or teleported around). The game is an incoherent mess. None of your actions or the sequence of events throughout 95% of the game make any sense or have any explanation, and having the explanation at literally the very end of the game doesn't justify or give you motivations for what you've been doing the entire time. You have zero reason to do most of the things you do in the game. Serge's role and motivation in the story are resolved only a few hours in, when he returns to the home world. There is literally no reason for him to do any of the things that occur after that.

I don't understand what you could've possibly liked about the characters or overall themes. Most of the characters have no personality and no motivation for doing any of the things they do. The themes are just kind of shat out at random times and never expanded on at all, the only one the game even focuses on for more than five seconds is "humans are bad!", which it does in the most laughably patronizing way possible.

The end of the game and the last plot dump that half-asses an attempt to explain anything in the game make it all the more clear what an unfocus, incoherent train wreck the plot was. Almost nothing in the game has anything to do with what it was all supposedly leading up to.

Anyway, I started Xenogears last night. So far it seems good, and I'm sure it probably has a better plot than Chrono Cross, because how could it possibly not.

I finished it and loved it. It's fine if things are left vague and require some reading into, so long as the sequences of events are coherent and lead up to a logical conclusion that's actually relevant to what preceded. I've loved all of the Drakengard games (except 2).

Follow along with what exactly. The game literally doesn't bother making sense or following any coherent plot at all. It contradicts events and concepts from Chrono Trigger and even within itself. There's nothing to follow along with. This is made clearer when you read a plot summary, which should cut down on the extraneous bullshit and deliver the story with the most clarity possible, instead it becomes even more clear that 99% of the game is a series of disconnected macguffin fetch quests with little to no explanation and constant deus ex machina. Turns out the game isn't difficult to follow, it just genuinely doesn't bother making sense or having a plot in the first place. How long has it been since you played the game.

Also, I played and finished Ni No Kuni. It was easy to follow, but was awful and full of plot holes.

I'm considering playing a Breath of Fire game now, any of those games good?

Tried it. Too boring. Might give it another shot though.

The game barely even has a plot. It's a series of random, disconnected fetch quests randomly punctuated by rambling walls of text where important plot points and pieces of lore are hastily brought up, poorly explained, then never mentioned again. The game doesn't bother to explain anything that happened or give you a coherent goal until literally seconds before the game ends, where it comes up with a cop out excuse for how the entire game was so meandering and pointless. The villain for most of the game behaves in ways that make less and less sense the more you learn about him. The game is a trainwreck.

I paid attention. I even went so far as to read a plot summary. It seriously doesn't make any sense, and makes less sense the more you think about it.

Persona 4 is intolerable to play though. The characters are ungodly annoying and relentlessly repeat the same things over and over, and the gameplay itself sucks. I can't stand being stuck in the same town for the entire game either.

I haven't been able to finish any of the Mario and Luigi games. They're excessively hand holdy and there's not enough plot to motivate me to continue. I've heard Dragon Quest can be kind of grindy and boring, is there any one I should play in particular? I have Dragon Quest 8 but I haven't played much of it.

You can though. The messages presented in JRPGs aren't some elusive thing, they're almost always spelled out in the most heavy handed way possible, even when the story is making absolutely no sense. Understanding one doesn't depend on understanding the other.

I have no trouble understanding the message JRPGs are trying to convey. The problem is that what they try to convey is typically stupid and poorly done and the story makes no sense.

Chrono Cross. It was a series of disjointed macguffin fetch quests and deus ex machina that ends on something that had almost nothing to do with the rest of the game. The plot makes less sense the more you think about it and the themes and messages the game brings up are done so completely at random and it never does anything with them.

I just finished Chrono Trigger recently for the first time and loved it. I loved how refreshingly straightforward the plot was. Then I made the mistake of playing Chrono Cross immediately after, which had one of the most ridiculously awful, needlessly convoluted, poorly paced, most incomprehensible plots I've ever experienced in a game. I feel like I need a cleanser after playing that shit, so I'm looking for some recommendations.

I'm thinking of playing Xenogears. Can anyone confirmed whether or not the plot in that makes sense/is actually good?

2D platformer for either the Genesis or SNES. Main character was a ferret looking guy wearing a hat with feathers on it and he had a sidekick that was either a small animal or a blob thing.

Are you really crying about the fact that I posted an article that perfectly covers my thoughts on the topic instead of wasting my time typing out at length the exact same shit that's already been written in the article. Are you really this desperate to avoid actually addressing any of the points brought up.