[QUOTE="qwertywater"]

Top 3 and better than Jordan simply because Jordan played in an era where Kobe could've averaged 40+ PPG easy.

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Since I'm tired of that particular subject, I won't argue with you, but I do not agree with you one bit. I thought Jordan's era was as hard to play in if not harder than today's NBA.

:lol: Of course the Jordan era was harder, the paint players were still allowed to hurt you back then, Jordan would've averaged 40+ in today's NBA(not the other way around), just like Jordan is right, he could drop 100 in a single game in todays NBA, the game was so much more physical back then, that you can pretty much count all 60+ games then, as 100 games today.

Kobe doesn't make the Top 10 in my book, because he simply doesn't have the leadership, and the ability to fundamentally change the game, if his team doesn't help out, Kobe's lost even if he's dropping 50(that became very apparent in the year off for Phil), that didn't happen to the All-Time greats, they could change games by carrying their teams for stretches.

Any HDMI will do(so yeah, your Elite's HDMI should work too), and gives you the same result, they had this big consumer test here, and the $4 one(without gold), delivered the same quality as the expensive ones, because it's digital, the materials used in the HDMI-cable don't really matter.

do you still have the box it came in? If so put it in there..... you do realize that PS3s are transported in big unheated trucks in winter time for trips longer than 5hrs too right... There should not be a problem with you just putting it in the box and placing it in the trunk.Macri

@ lostboy

lol, yeah, my coach always told me, to just walk away, and completely disengage with your surroundings, because sometimes refs just plain don't like you anymore, and anything can get you T'ed up, and they got the rules on their side, because annoying the refs could be considered as disturbing the continuation of the game.

To all my page 1 reactions:

I couldn't find a link, on all the percentages of refs in pro-sports, so I can't prove it conclusively, but you're out of your mind, if you think baseball especially(with the strike-zone, that shrinks and expands depending on expected rain, time of day, and mood of the ref) misses the fewest calls(they might make the most right calls, but because they also have the most plays(on average), that doesn't necessarily make it the best percentage though), also they didn't just introduce instant-replay mid-season, because they where getting all those HR-calls right.

I'm not making a value judgement, because baseball is great as it is, and the attitude is if you can't win, try harder, and most fans know the rules, and culture well, so there's minimal complaints, even if a game-winning HR doesn't get called, or if there's a couple of questionable strike-outs, but baseball is the most subjectively called game in pro-sports. I thought everybody knew that.

And about the YouTube vid's, some of 'em where miss-understandings(Mo Pete's ejection), that can't be corrected, because of the rules, which the teams sign off on(something that's very important: if the teams really wanted to change rules, they can do that pretty easily through the Board of Governors)

The Lakers-Celtics game, most of the bad calls, aren't bad calls, and if people actually knew the rules, they'd know that, just because the commentary says they're calling a game to tight(which already suggests their going too much by the book), doesn't make the refs wrong, or bad.

Throwing an elbow, like Kobe did, is always a foul, if you're trying to block, your arms should be straight up in the air, or it's a foul, jumping into a players back, before he lands, is a foul, it just goes on and on.

The 1st Wade video, #5 reaches in, and does make illegal contact on his hand, so even-though the homer-commentary thinks it's nothing, it's a good call.

The 1st call on the 2nd Wade vid is bogus, Bynum stays perfectly straight and defensive, until Wade makes contact, but the Turiaf foul is clear, he puts 2 hands on Wade, which is illegal, Bynums 3rd foul is bogus, but Kobe's reach in is a clear foul again. And a lot of the other suggestive moments, aren't bad calls, because the un-called moments this vid wants to suggest should've been fouls by Miami, aren't fouls, Haslem is moving away from Kobe and not making any move towards him, Kobe just rams into him, not giving Haslem a place to land, which makes it not a foul, the foul on Haslem on the other end is a real foul, because he simply get grabbed by the arms.

The final vid is the only vid, that actually shows a badly called game, the others games have 1 or 2 missed calls(on an average of 150-200 plays per game, that isn't bad).

And seeing tons of video's like that on YouTube, makes me think most basketball fans are casual, and don't know enough of the game to know what is actually going on in the field.

I'm non-American, and I love the NFL, I watch nearly every game(I love digital-TV :D ).

I think most people outside of the US do have a problem with the stop-start nature of the game, and the fact that a game takes about twice as long as a soccer game.

NBA refs actually have a better % of getting calls right than NFL, and especially MLB refs, it just seems that the NBA is more effected, because fans just keep on whining about every call they didn't like(which a lot of times, wasn't a bad call at all), and it seems to be a culture thing, because if Stern wouldn't fine 'em, players would be complaining every week, about every shot they missed.

And about the Technical, 1 bad word can be enough to warrant a Technical, so unless you know exactly what Rudy said, you don't know if it was legit, or not.

NBA fans, and players should take example to baseball/football fans, and stop whining, and move on. If your team can't win because of a couple of bad calls, they just need to try harder.