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#1 Mikazukinoyaiba
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I find it funny how so many people are arguing "____ is so obviously hotter then ______" as if Beauty isn't in the eye of the beholder and therefore, solely is a matter of opinion and preference.

But seriously, Samus and Kasumi are soooooooo much hotter. Hell they're the dream team for a 3some

Once again, I find it hilarious. Oh and most people who voted for Samus I note are fanboys, especially the guy on the first page who admitted he voted for Samus just because he wanted her to win, not because he thinks she is the hottest.
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#2 Mikazukinoyaiba
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You have to at least admit that the ESRB has on some occasions failed to give a good rating to a certain game.

You mean I have to at least admit they give some games rating I disagree with? Yes, I do disagree with ratings on some games many times before. I wouldn't say they "failed" though, they just gave one that I personally disagree with.
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#3 Mikazukinoyaiba
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The whole reason ESRB exists is to give parents guidance in buying the right games for their kids, which they have failed at

Oh? and how exactly have they failed? I see parents who will not allow their children to get M rated games, I even see parents who won't let 9 year olds get T rated games and in many forums people post and complain about their parents censoring them. So I really would like to know how exactly they have failed utterly and completely. \

There are still children who play games like Grand Theft Auto, Resident Evil, Halo, and more.

How is this the ESRB's fault? It is up to parents to decide whether their children play those games or not, it is THEIR discretion and frankly many "minors" are able to handle those games appropriately. I was, and FURTHER more the ESRB isn't going to hire a police squad to follow and arrest any minor who plays those games which of course would help reduce minors who play such games. The ESRB is to act as you said, a GUIDANCE! They aren't the enforcers and it is up to the parent and of course sometimes children bypass all barriers and play such games at friends house or when their parents are away/asleep. There are plenty of minors who have seen pornographic content, have the US Law failed? I don't think so because there are also many who have been barred and unable to access such content and OF COURSE they can't do it freely or whenever they want when they do access such content.

Do you seem many kids playing AO games? No. Because a) they are hard to find and b) parents probably won't buy it because an AO rating is much more meaningful than an M.

Correlation does not necessarily mean causation.
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#4 Mikazukinoyaiba
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If you want to be taken seriously, you should lay off with the lame insults.

In other words he should avoid the ad hominem fallacy, yes?
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But if we're talking about the possibility that children could be exposed to this game (and if the game is rated M instead of AO it is more likely) then how graphic the violence is matters quite a bit.

In a perfect world though children wouldn't be exposed to this game, whether it was rated M or AO either way. What you are citing imperfections and inconsistencies. Which is NOT a viable reason for the ESRB to give the game an AO rating. Is it more likely a child will play the game whetehr it is rated M or AO? I would like to see your numbers, because I STRONGLY suspect this isn't so. Now if you are citing that it is more likely a child will play an M rated game then an AO rated game I'd agree, but of course I'd point the the number of games rated M there are compared to the AO rated games there are by the ESRB here in America. Along with the titles retailers that most consumers shop at put on their shelves. And we all know AO rated games are not sold in any major chain retailer or even on most of their websites and is instead in obscure shops or other websites. The ESRB isn't supposed to rate games based on HOW LIKELY a minor can get it and the effects it may have on them. Or else I could assure you many more games would have had the AO rating. Instead they are rating games based on whether a person plays it at what age would they be more likely to handle the content properly.
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#6 Mikazukinoyaiba
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I can't wait to try it out myself and I'm not a violent guy.

Yes you are! You are killing innocent NPCs! They have families darn it!
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#7 Mikazukinoyaiba
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Wouldn't you say chopping someone's head off with a chainsaw like in RE4 is more violent than shooting someone with a handgun?

Yes, if it was a person indeed. We are talking about NPCs here and in such a case, no. It isn't more violent. Again I don't see you even trying to "prove" that the more graphic something is the more violent or even reaching towards are original topic. Why it is "wrong" to kill an NPC or worse to kill an NPC in more "graphic" ways.

Again, wouldn't you say it would be worse (worse as in more violent and graphic) if you use the Wii remote to aim a knife as you chop off body parts than to aim and fire a gun?

No, because they are NPCs.
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#8 Mikazukinoyaiba
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All the people here who want to play this game, why would you be against it being rated AO?

You said so yourself, it is extremelly difficult to get an AO rated game here in the US.

It is easy for minors to buy M Rated games, but extremely difficult to get AO rated games.

How so? All retailers already do not give minors M rated game. It is up to parental discretion and honestly the same goes for AO rated game. Parents can allow their children to see AO rated content.
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#9 Mikazukinoyaiba
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1.) Simply because it is more violent.

] Why? What makes any of these acts "violent" in the first place? Why is it that doing something more "violent" to one NPC then another makes it worse?

Straight from the ESRB site:

I know a couple other games that would fit that description, IMO, that do not have that AO rating as well. ;)
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#10 Mikazukinoyaiba
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I just did something "immoral" again. I just picked up my Pokemon game and defeated 7 wild Bidoofs, I am a monster!