What gpu do you have? because the Accelero S1 PLUS can mount two 120mm fans , I know it supports all gpu from AMD upto the 7870, and only some GTX 400's from Nvidia

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186054&Tpk=Accelero%20S1%20PLUS

with these fans

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835129055

04dcarraher

That wont work, sorry with that cooler the fans are part of the frame that connected to the heatsink.04dcarraher

So once again building another computer as an experiment mostly, and I was wondering, is it possible to take the fan from a case fan and place it into a VGA cooler? More specifically:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186048 <- VGA Cooler

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835213008 <-Fan I want to use

My goal is to get the lowest possible tempatures on air cooling, I've already got the perfect case and case fans, as well as the CPU Heatsink (Found a CPU Heatsink in which I could take a 120mm Delta Case fan and replace it with that). Now I want to look into VGA cooling, don't tell me that the VGA Cooler will cool just fine because that's not the point.

So, simple question, is it possible to take the fane from a case fan and implant it into a VGA cooler? Thanks for any and all info regarding this subject.

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No, I think consoles can coexist with PCs and other type of gaming-capable devices. And there is a reason why consoles exist - they are profitable for their makers. If they wouldn't be, there would be no consoles. I also don't believe in the concept of "holding back". Low-end PCs are "holding back" gaming just as much as consoles are.

Of course it would be nice if all games were for one platform but like I said before that's utopic to expect.

nameless12345

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if all developers dropped support for consoles, would you support this?

4dr1el

Off course not. But what are you trying to say with this? It goes both ways. If all developers dropped support for PC, would you continue supporting it?

I'm sorry I suppose I meant enjoy or be happy with, not support.

In a perfect world, there would be only one system with the power of a supercomputer, the energy consumption and size of a cell phone and a very small price.

But the world isn't perfect. Far from it actually.

nameless12345

I'm aware of that, but as you can see, many people don't want only one system. I was just curious as to who thought ridding ourselves of consoles would be a good idea. I also wanted to know the various cons. Imagine if all developers dropped support for consoles, would you support this? Simply invoking a perfectionist scenario was not the intended goal at all.

Many of you are forgetting the fact you can use a wii remote (with motion plus) with a PC (you'll just need special 3rd party software), if you didn't know that before now you do. Many of you are also forgetting that TB3 could start developing various peripherals for the PC if needs be for general developer creativity or consumer demand. What was once something 3rd party, could be made 1st party. If that makes sense.

None the less, I seriously doubt your biggest concerns would be peripherals...

Anyways, I got more replies than expected thanks for the feedback!

As it stands, Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo all produce a console every 5-7 years. What would the world be like if we rid ourselves of consoles? In my opinion, everything would run a lot smoother, with developer and consumer happiness at an all-time high.

Perhaps Im just being an optimist, but perhaps we should at least take the time to analyze just what this might be like. I hope you dont write this off as fanboyism and actually take the time to consider the possibilities and even share this article should you agree.

The Evolving Generation

What makes PCs different? Well, lets start with the generational gap. Consoles have a lifespan of typically 5 years, but because of the ability to deliver software updates with this newest generation, the lifespan has been a lot longer. Is this a good thing? I personally dont believe so.

Consoles exist in generations, while the PC has been nicknamed the Evolving Generation. This is due to the fact that when new hardware and technology becomes available upgrading your system is as easy as popping out the old and putting in the new, while your data and unit remains the same. With consoles, you cant upgrade, your system will have the exact same specs and possibly general peripherals for quite some time.

World Without Consoles

Consoles are holding us back, many developers aim their games to be primarily run on console systems, and this can result in graphic and gameplay limitations for the PC side. PCs evolve, and as such they can run any game thrown at it, and if not, give technology a year and we can upgrade ourselves should we choose.

Many developers have started complaining that the lack of a new generation has crippled the industry by stunting creativity. While I think that statement is false, I can say this: if we didnt have consoles we wouldnt have to factor them in when creating a game. We take the initiative to make advanced graphic systems, or high load processing power games. There would always be a new generation available to all who want it.

The Big Threes Spare Time

With consoles removed from the picture doesnt that mean we will never get new and innovated Peripherals? Actually, thats just plain wrong. Nothing is stopping hardware companies from innovating new peripherals for the PC Industry, might we look at Leap Motion perhaps?

I would always support that with the Big Threes newly found time that they start innovating new input methods and peripherals for the PC, The ever evolving generation wont mind. Not one bit.

Still not enough to replace their time? Well what about Operating Systems?

Operating Systems

I thought about this very long and very hard, the companies would need a way to get revenue that they would lose by not developing consoles. Wouldnt an operating system just turn your PC into an overpriced console? Yes, and no.

If done correctly the Operating Systems can pay off for consumers and developers. Microsoft already makes operating systems, they need not adapt, but Sony and Nintendo will have to. Ever heard of Dual booting an operating system? If youre not familiar with It , allow me to explain: Upon startup should you have multi-operating systems and a boot loader, you will be able to choose what operating system boots up. So, you could boot into the PS3 OS, or even Nintendo OS to play your games. The important thing is that the companies make sure their operating system is compatible with any and all PC hardware. In addition, open operating systems akin to windows are always a plus.

Exclusives Be Gone

I dont know about you, but I hate console exclusives, I never understood why developers wouldnt give the other console some love. With only PCs to rule the gaming world, you wouldnt need exclusives, or if TB3 decide to take the operating route, then either way, at least all your games are available on one hardware unit even if you do have to boot a different OS.

Removing Disc Size Limit

Ever wonder what holds developers back from delivering over the top content? Many would argue nothing, but I want to focus on the people who say size matters, file size that is.

I know many of you swear by physical delivery methods, but I see them as a costly bottlenecking factor, but I see digital distribution as a dangerous way for consumers to never technically own their games truly. I would hope Developers learn to make games for both methods, but should we go digital, we could have very large file size for packing in all the content you could ever need, 20GB? No issue for Digital Distribution. 50GB? Bring me a developer brave enough to make a game with that much content, and Ill show you a distribution service that can handle it.

Budget, Performance, Ultra

Because PCs are so customizable, you can get a gaming machine no matter the budget. Whether youre only interested in a $300-600 gaming system (which I then recommend AMD APUs just by the way), or youre a $2000 GTX man, no problem. The best part is knowing its a great investment because all games will be compatible with your system.

Money, Money, Money

In the end, I get it, its all about money. If innovative peripherals and operating systems arent enough, I suggest a potentially dangerous method: Hardware.

If TB3 decide to take this route, there are 3 things they must keep in mind:

1. Compatibility

2. Open Customization

3. Variety

There are several companies that just make gaming PCs for a living. Should TB3 decide to do this, they need to make sure it is still a PC, meaning its compatible with all components and software type. I need to be able to take out their processor should I want to upgrade to a new one. It needs to run exactly like you would expect a PC to, and not a console. Most importantly, the best thing about PCs is the variety, they should offer budget systems, maybe a bit more expensive performance systems, and finally all out nuts money is no limit systems.

They could even preload their systems with their operating system if they want, why not? Just make sure you dont drift back to console tendencies.

Conclusion

I see consoles as a hindrance to our gaming world, one which all would benefit from should we remove them. Hopefully you took the time to try and understand my point of view, no matter how absurd you find it.

Ill be expanding this as I think of more reasons as to why we should do this, and I understand how I did not touch upon the cons as I couldnt think of any, thats where you come in.

I hope you leave your thoughts and opinions in the comments below, including counter arguments and thoughts that eluded me.