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Problem is, Gamepass is an all or nothing direction and MS went all in, the right way. Sony can't half ass it or dip their toes in, it won't work. If they do this, they have to commit. And this is where having the service as a hardware exclusive is a detriment as they can't maximise potential revenue as easily and they're going to want to, with this sort of model. So it might be a bit of a gamble for them. We'll see.

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@pcps4xb: I think when Xcloud comes to Windows 10 PC later this year, it'll be a lot easier for MS to allow more games from Gamepass to come to the PC earlier, likely with the downloadable versions coming later when they can.

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@santinegrete: Good point, might only work via Xcloud.

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They don't need to court them by bringing games out on their platform. That won't achieve much. The deal needs to be right for both companies and if Nintendo is overly cautious as they are with everything else, it won't work out. And despite MS wanting Gamepass on Nintendo and Playstation, they don't need that. MS also said they're about the long game. That includes sacrificing sales for growth in market share and services. So keeping the games off rival platforms is highly beneficial in that way.

Offering Gamepass is courtship enough. If Nintendo don't want it, likely because of a lack of control over the service and its content to their family freindly platforms. Releasing games for their platform will do very little.

People have a knee jerk reaction to success. MS came off a huge low with the Xbox One, and Sony came off a huge high with the PS4. But in the long term that doesn't matter. MS started moving toward Gamepass in 2016 when they started releasing everything for the PC and introduced play anywhere.

And by this point they've gone from strength to strength. The reality is, that MS has been making all the right moves lately offering a lot more value than Sony or Nintendo in terms of services. And the next year or so will likely reflect that in their market performance.

Eventually they do want Gamepass everywhere, but only if the deal makes sense.

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@faithxvoid: I think they might release some stuff for the Switch, but the big games might come out much later if they do.

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The people in the video are wrong. If Xbox is to build their marketshare, sales and profit is not the most important thing. They'll need to keep the games exclusive. Releasing games on PS will do nothing for them. The profit will be a short term benefit.

On the one hand in this video the talk about the quality of Playstation and Nintendo exclusives, and then on the otherside they ask that Xbox shares their? Makes no sense if Xbox is trying to grow their services and marketshare.

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PS fans should be excited. They claim exclusives are better.

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Don't know about the headset, but Apples M1 SoC is fantastic.

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@Atzenkiller: I'm not kidding anyone, read what I wrote more carefully. My point was, that if these services became popular, like the next big thing, the others are in a position where they can quickly make their streaming service attractive than Stadia.

That's why I said "Sony can make theirs competitive any time they choose", right now it isn't, but it's in place.

MSs just started rolling out Xcloud, but they have lots of plans for it. Including considering a TV HDMI stick like the Amazon fire stick for Prime, Netflix ect. The business of Gamepass isn't a concern of mine, I'll leave that up to the trillion dollar company to take care of.

I don't see much difference between Stadia and Geforce Now. Both are offering to allow you to play PC games and neither have exclusives. And I'm sure if Nvidia tried they could become more competitive with that. At least the Nvidia service allows you to max out the graphics with ray tracing on.

The point being Stadia is pretty much at the bottom of the list for me because it offers no reason for me to choose it. Exclusives would have helped.