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#1 H4xlike
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1.games aren't dumbed down to be on console. it's casuals who hate having an incredibly challenging game

2.Devs usually take stuff out because it might not workor need it to appeal to someothers, (it be like saying they got rid of stealth in oblivion because it's going on to console or they want it more action oriented)

3.if your a hermit and using the "games are dumbed down cause of console arguments" you seriously need to keep of this forums it's a really ineffective argument at least we don't need hax to beat people online.

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Firstly, every pc fps that ends up on consoles is dumbed down. YOU CAN NOT DENY THIS. And thats NOT because of the market, thats because of the controler. Look at Halo, that game didnt need to dumb it self down to sell to casuals, the xbox wasnt a casual machine. But yet its a dumbed down game.
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#2 H4xlike
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[QUOTE="Citizen_Zero"][QUOTE="baddog121390"][QUOTE="Citizen_Zero"][QUOTE="baddog121390"][QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="Sketchbaz"][QUOTE="PannicAtack"]

I'll talk to you about Elder Scrolls.

I'm assuming you think that Oblivion was dumbed-down as a result of being developed for a console? What about Morrowind? That came out at about the same time on the XBox as on PC, just a few months difference. >_>

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Morrowind was dumbed down compared to Daggerfall. But still it wasn't dumbed down half as much as Oblivion.

I'm glad someone else said it. Morrowind was dumbed down from Daggerfall.

Granted, I haven't played any of the Elder Scrolls games, but I often hear alot of people whining about how "Morrowind was better!" than Oblivion. >_>

However, I think that the notion that games are dumbed-down because they're made on consoles is stupid. They're dumbed-down so that they can appeal to a wider audience and sell more copies to casuals. Then, they port the games to consoles to sell games to a wider audience, which is the console gamers. However, the two are unrelated for dumbing-down. >_>

Yes, consoles have many more casuals...who think they are hardcore. Therefore, putting it on consoles, they have to dumb it down -- because of it's fanbase -- not platform. Unless it's due to hardware/control configurations.

So the consoles are not dumbing down the games, the fanbase is? So why does every one say the console it's self is to blame?

Because it's easy access for all the casuals. Dumby proof. PC and console have majorly different fans.

So the console it's self is not to blame, it's the console fanbase that is to blame aka more casuals.

Yes. I thought you guys knew what we were saying all the time, just ignored it. >_>

Its also the cntrl. You couldnt have CoD1 on the consoles, it would be unplayable. Too much recoil and also, the maps arnt built for consoles. Maps in FPS change. A good pc map might suck on a console, and vice versa. You cant have Dust2, the best map ever, on a console.
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#3 H4xlike
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[QUOTE="H4xlike"][QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="H4xlike"][QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="PannicAtack"]

[QUOTE="Spartan070"]My PC dumbs down the potential of my PC games.:| My 360 gives me exactly whats on the back of the box.:|cobrax25

That's not what he's referring to.

He's refering to, say, the Elder Scrolls series, which, according to him, used to be a great RPG series, is now simplified to a straight-up action game.

Whether I agree is neither here nor there, seeing as how I've never played it. >_>

I know, I just hate it when I see all these amazing screens for PC games that supposedly play at 60+fps and my $1400 computer can't play them at max. I hate that so much.

How so? it cant be 1400$ any more.

My PC was designed for programming because of my work at Devry, it's not a straight up gaming platform although I still game on it.

if your PC is designed for programing... then its a safe bet to say it doesnt have a video card at all.

Not if its programing with like anything 3d.

well then its graphic design not programing. right?

But you can call game devs programers, yet they need good pcs.
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[QUOTE="baddog121390"][QUOTE="Citizen_Zero"][QUOTE="baddog121390"][QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="Sketchbaz"][QUOTE="PannicAtack"]

I'll talk to you about Elder Scrolls.

I'm assuming you think that Oblivion was dumbed-down as a result of being developed for a console? What about Morrowind? That came out at about the same time on the XBox as on PC, just a few months difference. >_>

Citizen_Zero

Morrowind was dumbed down compared to Daggerfall. But still it wasn't dumbed down half as much as Oblivion.

I'm glad someone else said it. Morrowind was dumbed down from Daggerfall.

Granted, I haven't played any of the Elder Scrolls games, but I often hear alot of people whining about how "Morrowind was better!" than Oblivion. >_>

However, I think that the notion that games are dumbed-down because they're made on consoles is stupid. They're dumbed-down so that they can appeal to a wider audience and sell more copies to casuals. Then, they port the games to consoles to sell games to a wider audience, which is the console gamers. However, the two are unrelated for dumbing-down. >_>

Yes, consoles have many more casuals...who think they are hardcore. Therefore, putting it on consoles, they have to dumb it down -- because of it's fanbase -- not platform. Unless it's due to hardware/control configurations.

So the consoles are not dumbing down the games, the fanbase is? So why does every one say the console it's self is to blame?

Because it's easy access for all the casuals. Dumby proof. PC and console have majorly different fans.

So the console it's self is not to blame, it's the console fanbase that is to blame aka more casuals.

Or in FPS case the cntrl.
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[QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="H4xlike"][QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="PannicAtack"]

[QUOTE="Spartan070"]My PC dumbs down the potential of my PC games.:| My 360 gives me exactly whats on the back of the box.:|cobrax25

That's not what he's referring to.

He's refering to, say, the Elder Scrolls series, which, according to him, used to be a great RPG series, is now simplified to a straight-up action game.

Whether I agree is neither here nor there, seeing as how I've never played it. >_>

I know, I just hate it when I see all these amazing screens for PC games that supposedly play at 60+fps and my $1400 computer can't play them at max. I hate that so much.

How so? it cant be 1400$ any more.

My PC was designed for programming because of my work at Devry, it's not a straight up gaming platform although I still game on it.

if your PC is designed for programing... then its a safe bet to say it doesnt have a video card at all.

Not if its programing with like anything 3d.
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#6 H4xlike
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[QUOTE="H4xlike"][QUOTE="Spartan070"][QUOTE="PannicAtack"]

[QUOTE="Spartan070"]My PC dumbs down the potential of my PC games.:| My 360 gives me exactly whats on the back of the box.:|Spartan070

That's not what he's referring to.

He's refering to, say, the Elder Scrolls series, which, according to him, used to be a great RPG series, is now simplified to a straight-up action game.

Whether I agree is neither here nor there, seeing as how I've never played it. >_>

I know, I just hate it when I see all these amazing screens for PC games that supposedly play at 60+fps and my $1400 computer can't play them at max. I hate that so much.

How so? it cant be 1400$ any more.

My PC was designed for programming because of my work at Devry, it's not a straight up gaming platform although I still game on it.

O cause you could make a 900$ gmaing pc that would run most of the games high.. itd break/die in a year or 2 and be unrealiable as to hell but hey it was 800$.
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#7 H4xlike
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[QUOTE="dramaybaz"]I wonder when this guy will ever stop console bashing.Spartan070
I think it's encoded in his dna by hypnotic waves sent to his brain from 1000 staight hours of hermitting.

He is only saying the truith. CoD2 is like 4x easier then cod1. Also cod2 has worse level design. Besides the russian maps, that was great in cod2.
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[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]

[QUOTE="Spartan070"]My PC dumbs down the potential of my PC games.:| My 360 gives me exactly whats on the back of the box.:|Spartan070

That's not what he's referring to.

He's refering to, say, the Elder Scrolls series, which, according to him, used to be a great RPG series, is now simplified to a straight-up action game.

Whether I agree is neither here nor there, seeing as how I've never played it. >_>

I know, I just hate it when I see all these amazing screens for PC games that supposedly play at 60+fps and my $1400 computer can't play them at max. I hate that so much.

How so? it cant be 1400$ any more.
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#9 H4xlike
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Umm.. how can a game be dumbed down, did they make two version and just give us the crapy one?Citizen_Zero
No. They dumb down the sequal. Like, Call OF DUTY 2!!!
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CALL OF DUTY!! OMG THAT WAS DUMBED TO HELL/ Anyone who disagree never played cod1. Derr look at me spraying my bar and mp44 with no recoil derr. Look at my sniper with huge scope derrr, look at me holding my breathe so my rifle doesnt shake derr. So easy.