@dark_k: Fair enough. I would argue the fact that you could have a complete story with co-op. Games like Divinity Orginal sin 1 and 2 have proven you can have both if you take the time to write the code for it. But that does require a lot more time and effort on the creators. While MP does help on the longer replay value for some games it doesn't help for all. This game could have drop in and drop out Co-op if it was thought of at the beginning. I personally thing to many companies just through MP in because either to lazy to do otherwise or forced to. either way still expect a lot more from games today. The major prob I have with Bioware is that each time they make a game it different from the last instead of just enhancing and building on what they have. As I said in an earlier statement they can have MP if they put it on a separate disc so we as the player know we have a complete story. There preorder for this game mostly focuses on the MP. Which leads me to believe that was or is their main focus. So yeah if the game was designed from start to finish with Co-op in mind it could be done in a way that never takes from the story and allows it to make it an intriguing part of the dynamic.
@arktis87 Fair enough. But Point still remains the fact that too many companies opt for multi-player options when not needed. I personally Feel to many companies either don't want to make co-op games anymore or just plain down want to have to code for it. Either way, we as the gamers lose out. Not saying ever game need Co-op. But their plenty that would have benefited from it and not just online co-op but local as well. I know it does become an issue and most companies feel that online is what a lot of people want. But the fact remains some people don't want to play online due to modders or just annoying trollers. Again this is just how I feel. Not like companies will change the way they make games on my word, nor do I expect them too.
@Mariner32: It was in reference to the fact that Any competitive muti-player on a perfectly fine single player takes from the game. Yes, it is horde mode but there is no need. Too many companies want that online gameplay like their competitors and lose focus on what made their game so successful. I personally think the game lost a lot of it luster on the last 2 games due to we lost the vast exploring option you had in the first and the loot drop aspect that kept the game fresh. And they made the Horde mode such a major part of the game in ME3 that you had to get good at it to get a good ending instead of the actions you did throughout the game and the previous games. But again this is just my thoughts.
Well, I now know one of my fav franchises will fail. Come on Bioware. we the players want local and online co-op. Not multi-player. The fact that you put muti-player in the game tells me you took from the story Because we all know muti-player cost a lot more data, data you could have used toward story and co-op play. Just give use the loot drop aspect of the first game, the intense story of the second game and Local/online co-op and you will make a great game to last for decades. This is not COD or battlefield so stop trying to go that route. Should you want to make that then make a completely separate disc with muti-player this way all can be happy. Look at how bad Muti-player hurt Bioshock 2. learn from mistakes not repeat.
This would be great if the game itself wasn't Pay to Win. I'm sorry. While I loved the first one and own it on 6 different systems. PTW was the ultimate Slap in the face from Popcap. I have been buying there games for years but now I see they aren't worth it anymore.
That Is Bull MS you are already screwing us by stating everything we have purchased on the 360 can't be played on the new one. Plus we all know the moment you drop support Live goes with it so games like borderlands were we like to play multiplier, we will lose out. Hell there releasing the New D3 soon that means less sales for them because seriously would you buy a game with only 3 yr shelf life. I still own most of my old consoles and play them all. This is just another insult from you MS. I have defended you on most of you desitions but this is uncool. You realize ATARI still supports its console after all these years and you one of the biggest giants in the industry will stop doing so that is just sad.
I don't see how those people don't realized that MS still has the same policy just reworded. While yes we only need net once to authenticate the Xbox1. We also still need net to do the same per new/used game we buy and try and play on the console. but yet no one bother to say a damm thing about that. we still haven't won as gamers most have been tricked into think they caved when they just rewrote the same rules. And took away other they saw as a loss of revenue. whengamers would just let there friends into there family list. So we need to really think is MS really going to give in or just keep rewriting to make us believe in the BS.
Here I what I think Sony, MS and nintendo should take away from us as gamers. While PC will always be in my heart I do prefer a controller in hand. That being said instead of the releasing a newer and slimer version of system just update date the tech with better hard ware instead of makeing smaler. this way they keep of with the time like most pc gamers do. That makes better biz senese and they make more profit in the over all because they started with a power house CPU just need more ram as time goes on and newer graphic card. Hell as A gamer i'd be buy the new version every couple of year as long a price stay good
All I know is in this new gen console war I hope to see a hell of an increase of RPGs because this COD and battlefield BS gas gotten old and stale. ever new version it is the same old game with newer polish and way over price DLC. heck I would love to new types of game like th 11th hour and myst for a change of pace
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