[QUOTE="Trading_Zoner"]

Well has MS made money in their overall game division yet?

AfterShafter

I do because that gives them more reason to keep milking gamers.

Fun facts chart:

Required monthly hardware sales for the PS3 to gain place as market leader


Year____[To Overcome]Xbox 360___________Wii

2009______________>400k_____________>390k

2010______________>220k_____________>210k

2011______________>150k_____________>140k

Late 2011__________>120k_____________>110k



(Late 2011 is the 5 year mark of this generation [aka end] as set by Nintendo and Sony)

So what year are most Sony fans banking on? surely by 2010 the market will have solidified and from there on won't change much in tems of the positions of the companies, but I'll let you draw your own conclusions.

kiruyama

These are the facts? Nah you know why because the 360 will not sell as good as the Ps3 by next year or after halo 3 sorry.

[QUOTE="GunSmith1_basic"]

[QUOTE="musicalmac"] :lol: No damage FTL :lol: I guess after having damage, anything less is... Not as fun. Ninja-Vox

a lot of people would prefer having no damage. The cars will actually look beautiful for the whole race.

It's not just the visual damage; it's the fact that your car gets messed up and difficult to drive very realistically depending on how you drive.

Really wow I would like to see how all you noobs are going to turn off car damage because "little Billy keeps bumping me and messing up my car". Get realistic here we are not all pro drivers leave car damage to NASCAR.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,134144-c,gameconsoles/article.html

Here put that in there too. Good read and I am glad you are sharing this with us thank you.

[QUOTE="GoldenEye005"][QUOTE="SolidKeevo"]

[QUOTE="GoldenEye005"]Wow PS1 and PS2 had problems link cus ive had both and none gave me problems and I never herd such things only from fanboys. But there is enough PS3 out there that if there was a problem we would of known by now. So your argument is not a good one sorry.manningbowl135

OH EM JEE!!! My 360 has never had a problem, and I've had it since launch. Linkz t0 teh pr0bl3mz plzthxbai! I've nevar heard about any problems with teh 360.

I think you never heard alot of problems about the PS1/PS2 because you probably weren't on the internet as much as you were, and back in those days, not alot of people had internet. So not alot of people on the internet = not so many "OMG PS1 BROKE" topics.

But really this topic does seem pointless. Not a very good argument at all. "Oh, s0 s1nc3 teh 360 breakz teh lotz, itz uber b3cauz j00 g3t n3w 1 for fr33. LAWL! (a month later, mind you)

Send me a newspaper scan were the PS2 had a defective rate of 30% or more like the 360. Heck give me something that says the PS2 from a ligit source that says many PS2's broke down.

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/technology/article2108608.ece

Send me a link from a legit source that says the 360 has a defect rate of 30%. The link you provided doesn't say anything about that.

http://www.itwire.com.au/content/view/13177/1/

There you go and theirs many more if you google it.

[QUOTE="GoldenEye005"][QUOTE="SolidKeevo"]

[QUOTE="GoldenEye005"]Wow PS1 and PS2 had problems link cus ive had both and none gave me problems and I never herd such things only from fanboys. But there is enough PS3 out there that if there was a problem we would of known by now. So your argument is not a good one sorry.ColoradoKindBud

OH EM JEE!!! My 360 has never had a problem, and I've had it since launch. Linkz t0 teh pr0bl3mz plzthxbai! I've nevar heard about any problems with teh 360.

I think you never heard alot of problems about the PS1/PS2 because you probably weren't on the internet as much as you were, and back in those days, not alot of people had internet. So not alot of people on the internet = not so many "OMG PS1 BROKE" topics.

But really this topic does seem pointless. Not a very good argument at all. "Oh, s0 s1nc3 teh 360 breakz teh lotz, itz uber b3cauz j00 g3t n3w 1 for fr33. LAWL! (a month later, mind you)

Send me a newspaper scan were the PS2 had a defective rate of 30% or more like the 360. Heck give me something that says the PS2 from a ligit source that says many PS2's broke down.

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/technology/article2108608.ece

The PS2 had a ridiculously high rate of failure when it launched, how could anyone not be aware of it???

Maybe it did maybe it didn't but I did not experianced it. Oh I know whybecause I was playing some great games and was not well informed on the tech news.

[QUOTE="GoldenEye005"]Wow PS1 and PS2 had problems link cus ive had both and none gave me problems and I never herd such things only from fanboys. But there is enough PS3 out there that if there was a problem we would of known by now. So your argument is not a good one sorry.SolidKeevo

OH EM JEE!!! My 360 has never had a problem, and I've had it since launch. Linkz t0 teh pr0bl3mz plzthxbai! I've nevar heard about any problems with teh 360.

I think you never heard alot of problems about the PS1/PS2 because you probably weren't on the internet as much as you were, and back in those days, not alot of people had internet. So not alot of people on the internet = not so many "OMG PS1 BROKE" topics.

But really this topic does seem pointless. Not a very good argument at all. "Oh, s0 s1nc3 teh 360 breakz teh lotz, itz uber b3cauz j00 g3t n3w 1 for fr33. LAWL! (a month later, mind you)

Send me a newspaper scan were the PS2 had a defective rate of 30% or more like the 360. Heck give me something that says the PS2 from a ligit source that says many PS2's broke down.

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/technology/article2108608.ece