[QUOTE="Game13a13y"]

nah, this is how the logic work: if it was rushed, then that means they didn't perfect it to be what next-gen gaming systems are supposed to be. then if you factor in the Blu-ray and Cell and Motion sensing ability (best on the Wii). it will make it a last-gen hardware.

nintendofreak_2

no, next-gen should be defined by how much a console improved compared to its previous technical achievements.

for PS 2 to PS 3: Cell and Blu-ray and Sixaxis
for GC to Wii: Wiimote and DVD (i know thank god they finally used DVD but its an improvement nonetheless)
then both consoleshave greatly improved their online features

PS 3 has Home
Wii has virtual consoles that let you download all thegreat gamesfrom its deep history

and what does Xbox to Xbox360 got? just new graphics, thats it. or may be wireless controllers, but thatsabout it.and they even removed the HDD for the Core.

[QUOTE="Game13a13y"]

and M$ has to pull off $1 billion to fix the RROD, and Sony ... oh wait ...1% failure rate?

Yellow_Rose

And yet MS still managed to post a $3 billion netprofit despite that.

When has #1) ever happened to MS?

ok, by your logic, if the RROD didn't cost MS as much as $3 billion, then its an A OKAY?

and M$ has to pull off $1 billion to fix the RROD, and Sony ... oh wait ...1% failure rate?

Im running out of popcorn, seriously are you really that in need of a conversation so you start a flame-bait topic?loky4000

how is it flame-bait, what i said is all factual, and i'm not pulling anything out of thin air to upset the lems. :wink:

I think it was rushed, but I dont think its last gen

thats why I didnt vote

Fraquelli

nah, this is how the logic work: if it was rushed, then that means they didn't perfect it to be what next-gen gaming systems are supposed to be. then if you factor in the Blu-ray and Cell and Motion sensing ability (best on the Wii). it will make it a last-gen hardware.

[QUOTE="Game13a13y"]

there seems to be alot of things going wrong on the X360.

1) no next-gen format (HD-DVD) for more game storage.
2) disc scratching problem
3) lousy disc drive that makes monstrous noise
4) RROD (overheating)
5) big power brick
6) 3 Sku's to confuse consumers, and the Core has no HDD, a step backward
7) no bluetooth
8) no motion sensing ability, Wii has Wiimote, PS 3 has Sixasis

overall, the technology on the X360 is nothing ground breaking, they just pieced together some off-the-shelves components and snaped an X on top of it.

PS 3 has Blu-ray and cell, thats what i call next-gen, agree?

Yellow_Rose

Thisflamebait has been done to death.

people say that alot may be because its the truth? :wink:

Your poll fails. If they rushed it then I'd love to see one they took their time on.stephenatl

UM.. sorry, the poll is geared toward everybody, how can it actually "fail"?

oh, excuse me if i didn't include the option, "i'm too dumb and i don't know any better"

[QUOTE="Game13a13y"]

no 3 SKU's does indeed confuse consumers. lets say if a casual wanted to buy an X360, that person would probably have a hard time figuring out which version he should get. the one cheaper but no HDD? or the one that cost higher and has most of the stuffs packed in?

and those 2 SKU's do have a big difference on game-making part.

nintendofreak_2

all of them basically do the same things, just different hard drive space, and on the 40GB they sacrificed BC components to make the price more affordable, but definitely they can do a system upgrade to enable PS 2 emulator to run. and don't most people have an PS 2 already?

I wouldn't say rushed. Their biggest mistake was being cheap on the Heatsink solutions to the GPU. That overheating problem cost them over a Billion and angered quite a few.

Also:

No one is getting confused over multiple SKUs, :| Which is obvious by 360's successful sales. If anything PS3 is the one with messed SKUs, they are already knocking off 2 units, and released a 3rd and planning on a 4th all in their first year. After then mention how they were only going to stick to on SKU.

Blue-Sky

no 3 SKU's does indeed confuse consumers. lets say if a casual wanted to buy an X360, that person would probably have a hard time figuring out which version he should get. the one cheaper but no HDD? or the one that cost higher and has most of the stuffs packed in?

and those 2 SKU's do have a big difference on game-making part.

It might be rushed, but most of the reasons you mentioned don't make it rushed, other than the RROD really.nintendofreak_2

^^^ see my post above