@zyxe I didn't really feel you were, I just think that the context is important. I personally dislike the word, but its a personal bias. To be fair some women have serious problems with men, just as some men have serious problems with women, I just don't think these women are necessarily destroying society - or even a noteworthy political block.

@zyxe It was a term coined by Rush Limbaugh for the record, to attack people he doesn't like and sees as eating away at our cultural heritage.

@zyxe Like I stated that sort of feminist died out in the 1970s and early 80s. I know numerous feminists and feminist theorists - the intellectuals who are supposedly demonizing men - few if any of them actually have a problem with men in general.

Her are argument has been cribbed from Phyllis Schlafly - who she mentions by name at one point - a well known conservative activist and opponent of the equal rights amendment.

Schlafly would actually be very much opposed to the work being done in this article, as would - I believe - the author of this video.

Also, yes second wave feminism was at times radical, but it has been long dead. Terms like feminazie came afterwards, and is mostly used to critique women legitimately fighting for equality, whether that equality be equal pay or a welcoming work environment.

@ben_a121 That last statement really didn't help the whole me sounding like a pretentious *** thing did it?

@Whitebloodsun @yeby @thegyger

The fact is, however, that sexual violence is a considerable problem in this culture - much more prevalent than homicide - and I don't think that depicting women as sex objects in video games is helping it.

Additionally, these types of depictions can cause self destructive behavior in young women - allowing themselves to be used in ways they normally would not due to poor self-esteem/ lack of understanding alternatives, for example - and can be hard to avoid when they are so common throughout our media.

As to the "men are just sex crazed" argument, I don't buy it. It is a poor excuse for bad behavior that could easily be curbed through social strictures and education. Yes it is true that humans are sexual creatures, but any number of societies have found different ways to channel these energies in such a way as to be less destructive than they potentially could be.

@ben_a121 My last comment was perhaps a bit heavy handed, but I've read a great deal of bile on this discussion board - an in particular some very offensive things about Carolyn - posted primarily by angry men who feel threatened somehow by a web article and a youtube series.

Also I'm not exactly sure what you mean - putting puns aside for a second - by the "chick or egg" argument. Cultural disfranchisement of women is a well recorded historical fact. If you are referring to the media culture dialectic I mentioned, I would agree the two certainly imbricate each other. If you want to effect change in one, however, targeting the other is never a bad strategy.

@thegyger I think the concern is more about the effect these games have on men, young impressionable ones in particular.

@yeby It's how far right women feel, and they have the right to feel that way. I know many smart compassionate women who feel differently; women who are happily married and whose husbands are neither emasculated or demeaned by them.

@pound-u @yeby Most feminist don't believe that. In fact many would argue that gender stereotypes negatively effect both men and women. Men, however, continue to have a privileged position in society, thus we really don't need a spokesperson for our interests; they dominate most modes of social, political and economic production.