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http://www.gofanboy.com/go-fanboy-news/2992-microsoft-rumored-to-be-planning-the-end-of-the-xbox-brand-name/
It will be interesting to see how Natal will be implemented onto the market, then again i want it to fail comming from a hand controller fan....like the rest of us... o_o?
It's from Fox Media. I don't trust it, nor do I trust Fox News.
It's from Fox Media. I don't trust it, nor do I trust Fox News.
Steameffekt
The same people that own Fox News own IGN. But not trusting Fox has nothing to do with this: the rumor is coming from the parent company of the two sites in question.
Anyway I don't really like this idea. The Xbox name has a lot of weight behind it and I don't see why they would throw it away. I like Xbox :(
Maybe it is called nBox then.magicalclick
That name is bound to failure........reminds me of nGage. :|
I think it would be a bad move by MS, the Xbox brand is loved by many, and I think it would be one of the worst things MS could do to both fans and themselves.
Maybe it is called nBox then.magicalclick
Isn't "Natal" just the project name, and not the final product name? I think we'll find out the actual name at E3 next week... unless I'm misinformed.
The same people that own Fox News own IGN. But not trusting Fox has nothing to do with this: the rumor is coming from the parent company of the two sites in question.
limpbizkit818
Exactly. IGN is so full of BS that I find it difficult to see how anyone can view them as a professional website. Their staff of "writers", and I use that term loosely, has never published anything that is not fluff riddled with terrible grammar and spelling. You would think that, as a "professional" website, your editorials would be spell-checked for God sake. While it is obvious that their prime fanbase consists of kids in the age bracket of twelve years old, you could at least take steps to ban all the idiots who post nothing but ads for Nike Shox and iPods in the comments section. You might also, as a "professional" source of journalism, try not to give every game that is advertised on your website a 9 or above, only to have the point values associated with the sub-categories of your rankings completely clash with the final review score!! IGN's reviews are very inconsistent with their previews and the hype that they generate for said titles. I was actually excited when I heard about the firings going on at IGN a couple months back, but unfortunatly we still have to deal with clowns like Hilary Goldstein and Jessica "Chobot" who, might I say it because I know everyone else is thinking it, only got her job because the way she looks. She might be a cute gal, but good grief she is annoying...Down with IGN!!!
I'm not sure if this is revelant to this news, but it could be the same thing:
Even as the company hypes Natal and its new mobile software, Windows Phone7, investors don't expect smash hits; in fact, they'd settle for small losses on these and other gadgets. "It's hard to make the case this has been a good use of shareholder capital," says Todd S. Lowenstein, who runs HighMark Capital's value fund. "I don't fault them for trying this stuff, but investors are getting impatient." Other investors suggest that, like IBM (IBM) a decade ago, Microsoft should refocus its efforts on its massively profitable PC and corporate software businesses. Its cash from operations last quarter alone was $7.4billion, a company record. Yet its shares are down about 50percent since Steve Ballmer took over as CEO on Jan.13, 2000. "The stock would go up if Microsoft exited its consumer businesses," says Bill Whyman of ISI Group.
Bussinesweek.
The only concievable benefits to changing the brand name are...-To give the company a clean slate in Japan
-To make the console sound more family friendly
The former is too weak a reason though. The Japanese game market isn't as big as America or Europe where xbox is successful. A name change only in Japan might be a good idea but every where else, no.
And the latter reason would be a big risk. The xbox is a big name now. I'm not sure sounding more friendly to mom is a good enough reason to alienate the core gamer demographic.vashkey
Totally agree with you. Plus I doubt that they will just up & forget about their hardcore fanbase which put them on the map for this gen to begin with. That would be suicidal.
Quite frankly, I hope they do. The name XBOX is marred with RRoD. If there are issues with the next system people will begin to pull away. It'd be a smart marketing move to drop the Xbox name. JoeinsidiousI don't think the Xbox is marred that much with the RROD issue. Ask a non gamer about the Xbox 360, and they'll probably say something about Halo 3 or COD4 way before the RROD.
do you understand the concept of brands? whats happens if coca-cola stopped making coca-cola? changed the name to something else? do you think people would care?It's just a name who cares. Is it really gonna make a difference on what the next system is called? It's still by Microsoft. OMG oh no the end of the world!
Foulcry
[QUOTE="Foulcry"]do you understand the concept of brands? whats happens if coca-cola stopped making coca-cola? changed the name to something else? do you think people would care? I understand perfectly. As long as it tasted the same who cares. I understand plenty about it. It's just a name. Are you gonna tell me that your not going to play another Microsoft console because they got rid of the Xbox name? I doubt it.It's just a name who cares. Is it really gonna make a difference on what the next system is called? It's still by Microsoft. OMG oh no the end of the world!
chaoscougar1
It's just a name who cares. Is it really gonna make a difference on what the next system is called? It's still by Microsoft. OMG oh no the end of the world!
do you understand the concept of brands? whats happens if coca-cola stopped making coca-cola? changed the name to something else? do you think people would care? I understand perfectly. As long as it tasted the same who cares. I understand plenty about it. It's just a name. Are you gonna tell me that your not going to play another Microsoft console because they got rid of the Xbox name? I doubt it. No.. all you understand is that it's "just a name." You're right though, it is just a name. But what you don't understand is that a name is everything for a product in the business world. People associate to the product because of its name. If Coca Cola changed it's name to Fizzy Soda Drink, people may not recognize it as well. Coca Cola already has an established fanbase around the world. Changing the name would alienate all those people and they'd just go buy Pepsi instead. This is what could happen to the Xbox. Sure, it's still a Microsoft console, but most people won't associate it with the Xbox and since it will be just starting out, most people will likely go to competitors. It's a grueling market out there, there's no reason to give Sony or Nintendo any share of the video game market simply because they want to change the name.[QUOTE="limpbizkit818"]
The same people that own Fox News own IGN. But not trusting Fox has nothing to do with this: the rumor is coming from the parent company of the two sites in question.
Tripleseed
Exactly. IGN is so full of BS that I find it difficult to see how anyone can view them as a professional website. Their staff of "writers", and I use that term loosely, has never published anything that is not fluff riddled with terrible grammar and spelling. You would think that, as a "professional" website, your editorials would be spell-checked for God sake. While it is obvious that their prime fanbase consists of kids in the age bracket of twelve years old, you could at least take steps to ban all the idiots who post nothing but ads for Nike Shox and iPods in the comments section. You might also, as a "professional" source of journalism, try not to give every game that is advertised on your website a 9 or above, only to have the point values associated with the sub-categories of your rankings completely clash with the final review score!! IGN's reviews are very inconsistent with their previews and the hype that they generate for said titles. I was actually excited when I heard about the firings going on at IGN a couple months back, but unfortunatly we still have to deal with clowns like Hilary Goldstein and Jessica "Chobot" who, might I say it because I know everyone else is thinking it, only got her job because the way she looks. She might be a cute gal, but good grief she is annoying...Down with IGN!!!
Couldn't agree moreand if they end the Xbox brand name they wouldn't be doing themselves much of a favor in the sales department. If the Japanese don't like the xbox, why would they like the nbox (example) It might be a different name but it's still the same damn company. You can change that nerdy kids name at school from bob to Nathan and it wouldn't make him anymore cooler among the general population.
[QUOTE="Tripleseed"]
[QUOTE="limpbizkit818"]
The same people that own Fox News own IGN. But not trusting Fox has nothing to do with this: the rumor is coming from the parent company of the two sites in question.
XileLord
Exactly. IGN is so full of BS that I find it difficult to see how anyone can view them as a professional website. Their staff of "writers", and I use that term loosely, has never published anything that is not fluff riddled with terrible grammar and spelling. You would think that, as a "professional" website, your editorials would be spell-checked for God sake. While it is obvious that their prime fanbase consists of kids in the age bracket of twelve years old, you could at least take steps to ban all the idiots who post nothing but ads for Nike Shox and iPods in the comments section. You might also, as a "professional" source of journalism, try not to give every game that is advertised on your website a 9 or above, only to have the point values associated with the sub-categories of your rankings completely clash with the final review score!! IGN's reviews are very inconsistent with their previews and the hype that they generate for said titles. I was actually excited when I heard about the firings going on at IGN a couple months back, but unfortunatly we still have to deal with clowns like Hilary Goldstein and Jessica "Chobot" who, might I say it because I know everyone else is thinking it, only got her job because the way she looks. She might be a cute gal, but good grief she is annoying...Down with IGN!!!
Couldn't agree moreand if they end the Xbox brand name they wouldn't be doing themselves much of a favor in the sales department. If the Japanese don't like the xbox, why would they like the nbox (example) It might be a different name but it's still the same damn company. You can change that nerdy kids name at school from bob to Nathan and it wouldn't make him anymore cooler among the general population.
I think it's more about Western appeal, or lack there of, more than anything. It isn't about the name and changing it wouldn't make any difference. It's the games and the Eastern audience doesn't seem to like Western games.. just like some Western audiences (like myself) do not like Eastern games. It has nothing to do at all with brand name or company name.they should rename it to something succesfull like "vista"....
no seriously why do people think we need to keep names the same? nintendo changes names every generation, with the latest being their wackiest and most successful yet. i like change!. maybe they will call it thrii.... because its their thrid xbox, and it also rhymes with wii...
[QUOTE="chaoscougar1"][QUOTE="Foulcry"]do you understand the concept of brands? whats happens if coca-cola stopped making coca-cola? changed the name to something else? do you think people would care? I understand perfectly. As long as it tasted the same who cares. I understand plenty about it. It's just a name. Are you gonna tell me that your not going to play another Microsoft console because they got rid of the Xbox name? I doubt it. if thats what you think you clearly have no idea about branding and/or brand names. brand names are synonomous with the perception you have of said company, they are established and well known, if you still require further explanation, enroll in a business/marketing courseIt's just a name who cares. Is it really gonna make a difference on what the next system is called? It's still by Microsoft. OMG oh no the end of the world!
Foulcry
I hope they don't do that...I like the Xbox name.
I highly doubth these rumblings are true. Like one person said "the Xbox brand has weight to it". Xbox has become a very strong name in the marketplace and its the same reason why Sony refused to change their Playstation brand. If Microsoft chooses to lose the Xbox name it may have to due with the fact they want to distance themselves from the horrible RROD scenario that is associated with the 360. By changing a brand name many consumers feel they are really getting something new and not just an updated revision. I believe our current gen Xbox is with us for another few years so its hard to say what will happen. Maybe they should just call the next Xbox the SEXBOX and we can all get really excited about motion controls! LOL.
It would be surprising (to me) and huge if they dropped the Xbox name. I don't think it's a good idea. If they are concerned about leaving memories of the RROD in the past, then they need to make sure the next console is built like the original Xbox was. But then this news story could be a load of bunk.
[QUOTE="Foulcry"][QUOTE="chaoscougar1"] do you understand the concept of brands? whats happens if coca-cola stopped making coca-cola? changed the name to something else? do you think people would care?wwervinI understand perfectly. As long as it tasted the same who cares. I understand plenty about it. It's just a name. Are you gonna tell me that your not going to play another Microsoft console because they got rid of the Xbox name? I doubt it. No.. all you understand is that it's "just a name." You're right though, it is just a name. But what you don't understand is that a name is everything for a product in the business world. People associate to the product because of its name. If Coca Cola changed it's name to Fizzy Soda Drink, people may not recognize it as well. Coca Cola already has an established fanbase around the world. Changing the name would alienate all those people and they'd just go buy Pepsi instead. This is what could happen to the Xbox. Sure, it's still a Microsoft console, but most people won't associate it with the Xbox and since it will be just starting out, most people will likely go to competitors. It's a grueling market out there, there's no reason to give Sony or Nintendo any share of the video game market simply because they want to change the name. Like I said before I understand perfectly. I just don't care. I'm not gonna argue with you at all but like I said before would you really care if they changed their name? would you really not buy it because they changed it? not likely. Coca Cola is a completely different product from Video Games. That's like comparing the Empire State building to the Easter Bunny. In Video Games I don't know about you but I really don't care what system I play on or who makes it. I just play to play Video Games. If Coca - Cola were to change their name I'm sure they would let the entire world know and I guarantee you people would still drink it. Your telling me that people sway from things based on Name Brands. Well while for some people it might be true, (Ignorant) people in general the majority stay on board. Technically MIcrosoft is the official "Brand Name" anyway. Maybe they want to associate the Microsoft name with their next console like the first Xbox or like Sony does with PLaystation or Like Nintendo does with all their consoles. the point is who cares because we all know it's made by Microsoft and If your not gonna continue playing their consoles over a name then you got some serious issues.
[QUOTE="chaoscougar1"][QUOTE="Foulcry"] I understand perfectly. As long as it tasted the same who cares. I understand plenty about it. It's just a name. Are you gonna tell me that your not going to play another Microsoft console because they got rid of the Xbox name? I doubt it.Foulcryif thats what you think you clearly have no idea about branding and/or brand names. brand names are synonomous with the perception you have of said company, they are established and well known, if you still require further explanation, enroll in a business/marketing course Clearly you have no idea what your talking about because "Microsoft" is the "Official Brand Name" If you need to go take a course for someone to tell you that then wow that's all I have to say. I don't need you to explain anything to me nor do I want you to. I didn't ask for your opinion and I don't need 101 lesson of how to either I don't care about the brand name that's what I am trying to point out. It's a name that's all a name of Microsoft's product. Obviously you are one of those percentage of people who are ignorant to the fact of change. Get used to it because it happens all the time. my goodness, i am doing a business course and have done two units in marketing. You have ABSOLUTELY NO CLUE what you are talking about and are trying to play off that you are an expert. You say that you personally do not care, which is fine, you have your own opinion, but then proceed to say thats brands are 'just a name' and the greater population dont care about them, you are 100% wrong. People definately care about brands, you ask any executive in any major corporation to change their name saying it wont make a difference to their revenue and expense figures, they will laugh you out of the building. hahahahaha it happens all the time? it costs way too much money in advertising to change a brand name frequently, so no it does not happen all the time, they will only change a name if the product has failed OR they are doing a massive overhaul to the product (gameboy>DS) but to get that awareness out there is expensive
Clearly you have no idea what your talking about because "Microsoft" is the "Official Brand Name" If you need to go take a course for someone to tell you that then wow that's all I have to say. I don't need you to explain anything to me nor do I want you to. I didn't ask for your opinion and I don't need 101 lesson of how to either I don't care about the brand name that's what I am trying to point out. It's a name that's all a name of Microsoft's product. Obviously you are one of those percentage of people who are ignorant to the fact of change. Get used to it because it happens all the time. my goodness, i am doing a business course and have done two units in marketing. You have ABSOLUTELY NO CLUE what you are talking about and are trying to play off that you are an expert. You say that you personally do not care, which is fine, you have your own opinion, but then proceed to say thats brands are 'just a name' and the greater population dont care about them, you are 100% wrong. People definately care about brands, you ask any executive in any major corporation to change their name saying it wont make a difference to their revenue and expense figures, they will laugh you out of the building. hahahahaha it happens all the time? it costs way too much money in advertising to change a brand name frequently, so no it does not happen all the time, they will only change a name if the product has failed OR they are doing a massive overhaul to the product (gameboy>DS) but to get that awareness out there is expensive Since when was I playing off being an expert I never said I was. I figured you were taking courses thats why I said what I said or did it completely fly over your head? Obviously It did. I also never said people didn't care about brand names I said the majority still stick around while the others don't. Clearly you have poor skills in understanding what someone says. I personally don't care I never tried starting an arguement over this with anyone. I said "Who cares it's a name." my opinion not yours. If i'm entitled to my own opinion then why are you trying to argue with me. If marketing taught you anything then it should have also taught you that you can gain back what you lose. Poeople may stray but they eventually come back. I don't care what kind of degree you have it's common sense and understanding people and how they work and if your huge into Video Games you should know this.[QUOTE="Foulcry"][QUOTE="chaoscougar1"] if thats what you think you clearly have no idea about branding and/or brand names. brand names are synonomous with the perception you have of said company, they are established and well known, if you still require further explanation, enroll in a business/marketing coursechaoscougar1
[QUOTE="chaoscougar1"][QUOTE="Foulcry"] Clearly you have no idea what your talking about because "Microsoft" is the "Official Brand Name" If you need to go take a course for someone to tell you that then wow that's all I have to say. I don't need you to explain anything to me nor do I want you to. I didn't ask for your opinion and I don't need 101 lesson of how to either I don't care about the brand name that's what I am trying to point out. It's a name that's all a name of Microsoft's product. Obviously you are one of those percentage of people who are ignorant to the fact of change. Get used to it because it happens all the time.El_Zo1212omy goodness, i am doing a business course and have done two units in marketing. You have ABSOLUTELY NO CLUE what you are talking about and are trying to play off that you are an expert. You say that you personally do not care, which is fine, you have your own opinion, but then proceed to say thats brands are 'just a name' and the greater population dont care about them, you are 100% wrong. People definately care about brands, you ask any executive in any major corporation to change their name saying it wont make a difference to their revenue and expense figures, they will laugh you out of the building. hahahahaha it happens all the time? name 3 examples of an established company just straight up changing their name for no reason, im not talking about a merger either, cause that usually unifies two global brands. i can tell you now that you do not understand perfectly, so i suggest you do some research about the importance of brand names before replying again Y'know, I like you. You usually have really well thought out replies, and you're taking business and marketing courses, so I accept that you probably have more experience in what you're talking about. My question, though, is this: with a company like CocaCola, there are so many other products that they produce that it could feasibly be lost in the shuffle, as it were. For instance, I didn't know Aquafina was a coca cola product until about a year after it was on the market.
But Microsoft only makes one game console at a time. In my opinion, it isn't Wii vs Playstation vs Xbox, it's Nintendo vs Sony vs Microsoft. Maybe it's a by product of gowing up with videogame systems that didn't have series' named for them. I grew up with NES, SNES, N64, Genesis, Saturn, Dreamcast. Sony started all this silly(IMO) business of rehashing the same name for a new videogame console. We(the Gamers) know that Microsoft built a solid competitor in this Generation, and we hope they will, in the next generation, have a similar footing on which to fight the next console war(with a few obvious fixes, of course).
changing a brand is not impossible, nor is it sometimes a bad idea. But what you have to realise is that when you change a specific brand that people know and identify easily, you have to do a lot of advertisement and the changes have to be pretty drastic. An example would be going from the gameboy to the DS, the DS introduced the touch screen.I may have gotten a little off track there but the main point i was trying to make is that people do care about brands, they are synonymous with the product being purchased, an established well respected brand has a certain level of quality expected from it every time you purchase. Thats why i think changing the xbox brand name now wouldnt be the best idea. Microsoft has gotten themselves well established in the console market with the xbox, now they made a loss with the 360 in the first few years of production, thus having to market a entirely new IP would cost them money they dont need to spend, the xbox name does not need to be changed
[QUOTE="chaoscougar1"]my goodness, i am doing a business course and have done two units in marketing. You have ABSOLUTELY NO CLUE what you are talking about and are trying to play off that you are an expert. You say that you personally do not care, which is fine, you have your own opinion, but then proceed to say thats brands are 'just a name' and the greater population dont care about them, you are 100% wrong. People definately care about brands, you ask any executive in any major corporation to change their name saying it wont make a difference to their revenue and expense figures, they will laugh you out of the building. hahahahaha it happens all the time? it costs way too much money in advertising to change a brand name frequently, so no it does not happen all the time, they will only change a name if the product has failed OR they are doing a massive overhaul to the product (gameboy>DS) but to get that awareness out there is expensive Since when was I playing off being an expert I never said I was. I figured you were taking courses thats why I said what I said or did it completely fly over your head? Obviously It did. I also never said people didn't care about brand names I said the majority still stick around while the others don't. Clearly you have poor skills in understanding what someone says. I personally don't care I never tried starting an arguement over this with anyone. I said "Who cares it's a name." my opinion not yours. If i'm entitled to my own opinion then why are you trying to argue with me. If marketing taught you anything then it should have also taught you that you can gain back what you lose. Poeople may stray but they eventually come back. I don't care what kind of degree you have it's common sense and understanding people and how they work and if your huge into Video Games you should know this.[QUOTE="Foulcry"] Clearly you have no idea what your talking about because "Microsoft" is the "Official Brand Name" If you need to go take a course for someone to tell you that then wow that's all I have to say. I don't need you to explain anything to me nor do I want you to. I didn't ask for your opinion and I don't need 101 lesson of how to either I don't care about the brand name that's what I am trying to point out. It's a name that's all a name of Microsoft's product. Obviously you are one of those percentage of people who are ignorant to the fact of change. Get used to it because it happens all the time.Foulcry
speaking from personal experience i am assuming :| common sense how they work? so a degree in marketing is a degree in common sense? im pretty sure a few more things are taught than that. and no, im not majoring in marketing, im majoring in accounting/finance
[QUOTE="Foulcry"][QUOTE="chaoscougar1"] my goodness, i am doing a business course and have done two units in marketing. You have ABSOLUTELY NO CLUE what you are talking about and are trying to play off that you are an expert. You say that you personally do not care, which is fine, you have your own opinion, but then proceed to say thats brands are 'just a name' and the greater population dont care about them, you are 100% wrong. People definately care about brands, you ask any executive in any major corporation to change their name saying it wont make a difference to their revenue and expense figures, they will laugh you out of the building. hahahahaha it happens all the time? it costs way too much money in advertising to change a brand name frequently, so no it does not happen all the time, they will only change a name if the product has failed OR they are doing a massive overhaul to the product (gameboy>DS) but to get that awareness out there is expensive
Since when was I playing off being an expert I never said I was. I figured you were taking courses thats why I said what I said or did it completely fly over your head? Obviously It did. I also never said people didn't care about brand names I said the majority still stick around while the others don't. Clearly you have poor skills in understanding what someone says. I personally don't care I never tried starting an arguement over this with anyone. I said "Who cares it's a name." my opinion not yours. If i'm entitled to my own opinion then why are you trying to argue with me. If marketing taught you anything then it should have also taught you that you can gain back what you lose. Poeople may stray but they eventually come back. I don't care what kind of degree you have it's common sense and understanding people and how they work and if your huge into Video Games you should know this.speaking from personal experience i am assuming :| common sense how they work? so a degree in marketing is a degree in common sense? im pretty sure a few more things are taught than that. and no, im not majoring in marketing, im majoring in accounting/finance
Then why are you even talking?[QUOTE="chaoscougar1"][QUOTE="Foulcry"] Since when was I playing off being an expert I never said I was. I figured you were taking courses thats why I said what I said or did it completely fly over your head? Obviously It did. I also never said people didn't care about brand names I said the majority still stick around while the others don't. Clearly you have poor skills in understanding what someone says. I personally don't care I never tried starting an arguement over this with anyone. I said "Who cares it's a name." my opinion not yours. If i'm entitled to my own opinion then why are you trying to argue with me. If marketing taught you anything then it should have also taught you that you can gain back what you lose. Poeople may stray but they eventually come back. I don't care what kind of degree you have it's common sense and understanding people and how they work and if your huge into Video Games you should know this.Foulcry
speaking from personal experience i am assuming :| common sense how they work? so a degree in marketing is a degree in common sense? im pretty sure a few more things are taught than that. and no, im not majoring in marketing, im majoring in accounting/finance
Then why are you even talking? hahahahahaha oh the irony!!! as previously stated i have done 2 marketing units, what business units have you done?[QUOTE="Foulcry"][QUOTE="chaoscougar1"]Then why are you even talking? hahahahahaha oh the irony!!! as previously stated i have done 2 marketing units, what business units have you done? Who cares if you've done 2 marketing units that barely qualifies you to make you know what your talking about. Your obviously not understanding me I didn't come in here to tell everyone how Marketing works. You decided to go completely off topic by giving a 101 lesson on Marketing. I said I don't care about a brand name. Me and then you start putting words into my mouth. Does your teacher tell you that you have poor listening skills? He should. You have minimum experience if any and your telling me how the system works. Do yourself a favor just stop yourself right now because your looking for an arguement that never exsisted. I don't pretend to know about marketing and I don't pretend to know what I'm talking about. So maybe you should stop pretending yourself. 2 units lol. What Basic **** exactly. Don't try to even tell me you have experience when you don't. you lose.speaking from personal experience i am assuming :| common sense how they work? so a degree in marketing is a degree in common sense? im pretty sure a few more things are taught than that. and no, im not majoring in marketing, im majoring in accounting/finance
chaoscougar1
Who cares if you've done 2 marketing units that barely qualifies you to make you know what your talking about. Your obviously not understanding me I didn't come in here to tell everyone how Marketing works. You decided to go completely off topic by giving a 101 lesson on Marketing. I said I don't care about a brand name. Me and then you start putting words into my mouth. Does your teacher tell you that you have poor listening skills? He should. You have minimum experience if any and your telling me how the system works. Do yourself a favor just stop yourself right now because your looking for an arguement that never exsisted. I don't pretend to know about marketing and I don't pretend to know what I'm talking about. So maybe you should stop pretending yourself. 2 units lol. What Basic **** exactly. Don't try to even tell me you have experience when you don't. you lose.there is only one 'e' in argumentFoulcry
If Coca - Cola were to change their name I'm sure they would let the entire world know and I guarantee you people would still drink it. Your telling me that people sway from things based on Name Brands. Well while for some people it might be true, (Ignorant) people in general the majority stay on boardFoulcryso by people you mean just you right?
you are seriously digging yourself a massive hole here. How is marketing off topic? you are talking about a brand and how well its established, an extremely key area in marketing. i may have 'minimum' knowledge, but that is still much more than you have
I don't pretend to know about marketing and I don't pretend to know what I'm talking about.Foulcryso previously when you said "I understand perfectly. As long as it tasted the same who cares. I understand plenty about it. It's just a name" and "Like I said before I understand perfectly" you were lying?
lol stop looking for an argument that never existed? then what on earth are you doing right now?
so by people you mean just you right?[QUOTE="Foulcry"] there is only one 'e' in argument [QUOTE="Foulcry"]If Coca - Cola were to change their name I'm sure they would let the entire world know and I guarantee you people would still drink it. Your telling me that people sway from things based on Name Brands. Well while for some people it might be true, (Ignorant) people in general the majority stay on boardchaoscougar1
you are seriously digging yourself a massive hole here. How is marketing off topic? you are talking about a brand and how well its established, an extremely key area in marketing. i may have 'minimum' knowledge, but that is still much more than you have
I don't pretend to know about marketing and I don't pretend to know what I'm talking about.Foulcryso previously when you said "I understand perfectly. As long as it tasted the same who cares. I understand plenty about it. It's just a name" and "Like I said before I understand perfectly" you were lying?
lol stop looking for an argument that never existed? then what on earth are you doing right now?
One grow up seriously, Two I understand the Branding aspect It's doesn't mean I major in it or have a degree to go start ranting and raving about it. Knowing about it and Understanding it are completely two different things, Which obviously you think you do have a right to because you have so much experience right? The only one who is digging a whole here is you so I suggest you go take some more classes.Please Log In to post.
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