Gears of War and Halo 3 are not even that good!

Okay, so I've heard basicly only good stuff about these games. I've also owned them for quite a while now. Halo 3 I played through with my brother and Gears of War too.

Halo 3 (7.0)

What in earth makes this game so good? I mean some parts were fun in co-op (for example the driving in the end). Allthough the driving controllers suck! Also the story is very easy and lame, was it supposed to be good? Lol, Ninja Gaiden II nearly has a better story. The gameplay is NOT the best I've played as a FPS game. For example, I like Brothers in Arms: Hell's Highway more than this one.

Gears of War (6.5)

And then this one... Okay it does look a bit like a movie, but is it enough for a good game? No. The game is way too messy. It is too hard to understand where you walk and the enviroment makes it harder. Plus, those 300kg costumes makes the character look quite stupid. The moving is quite annoying, especially the view of your character, it makes the game too unclear. And the story? Yet again a let down, nothing good. So that no other guy comes around and complains without knowing and reading absolutely anything but this post, I got to copy myself from later pages:

How many times do I have to say, why is it that Gears of War is too unclear compared to other third person shooters? Well, here you go for the last time:

The screen doesn't show enough of the enviroment, while the camera zooms way too close to the character compared to other shooters. Max Payne, for example feels by far more freeable to walk as the camera shows the whole character and you can see more of the enviroment.

These games are way too overrated.

Halo 3 I've played and I hate that game. Brothers in Arms Hells Highway is a much better game, and its sad it wasn't appreciated as much.

I can't speak for Gears though.

Okay, so I've heard basicly only good stuff about these games. I've also owned them for quite a while now. Halo 3 I played through with my brother and Gears of War too.

Halo 3 (7.0)

What in earth makes this game so good? I mean some parts were fun in co-op (for example the driving in the end). Allthough the driving controllers suck! Also the story is very easy and lame, was it supposed to be good? Lol, Ninja Gaiden II nearly has a better story. The gameplay is NOT the best I've played as a FPS game. For example, I like Brothers in Arms: Hell's Highway more than this one.

Gears of War (6.5)

And then this one... Okay it does look a bit like a movie, but is it enough for a good game? No. The game is way too messy. It is too hard to understand where you walk and the enviroment makes it harder. Plus, those 300kg costumes makes the character look quite stupid. The moving is quite annoying, especially the view of your character, it makes the game too unclear. And the story? Yet again a let down, nothing good.

These games are way too overrated.

Storyteller89

sounds like these just arent your type of games. I mean if you dont like moving in gears, its pretty much hopeless to like anything in the game. I love the third person feel of gears and I love the combat, and I gladly give that game a 9.5 so I guess thats where our opinion differs.

I agree with you for Halo 3 singleplayer, the story wasnt designed very well, but I love the multiplayer game play. Its way fun, you cant have the same intense combat feel in cod4 or BiA, I like those games, but its like you die so fast sometimes, Halo 3 combat is always intense.

this wont end well *waits for halo + gears fanboys*campzor

Lol, and boy when they come...

Okay, so I've heard basicly only good stuff about these games. I've also owned them for quite a while now. Halo 3 I played through with my brother and Gears of War too.

Halo 3 (7.0)

What in earth makes this game so good? I mean some parts were fun in co-op (for example the driving in the end). Allthough the driving controllers suck! Also the story is very easy and lame, was it supposed to be good? Lol, Ninja Gaiden II nearly has a better story. The gameplay is NOT the best I've played as a FPS game. For example, I like Brothers in Arms: Hell's Highway more than this one.

Gears of War (6.5)

And then this one... Okay it does look a bit like a movie, but is it enough for a good game? No. The game is way too messy. It is too hard to understand where you walk and the enviroment makes it harder. Plus, those 300kg costumes makes the character look quite stupid. The moving is quite annoying, especially the view of your character, it makes the game too unclear. And the story? Yet again a let down, nothing good.

These games are way too overrated.

Storyteller89

Two Questions:

Have you played the Multiplayer on Halo 3?

Have you Played the Multiplayer on Gears of War?

If you havent, you need to! The Multiplayer is much better on both games then the campaign ( I loved Gears of War's campaign, but thats just me).

I agree that Halo 3's campaign wasnt all that great, but you have to play Xbox Live at one of your friend's house if you havent already. It is amazing!

Gears of War's Multiplayer on Xbox Live is good too, but there is a lot of lag and glitching but that will mostly be fixed in Gears of War 2.

Okay, so I've heard basicly only good stuff about these games. I've also owned them for quite a while now. Halo 3 I played through with my brother and Gears of War too.

Halo 3 (7.0)

What in earth makes this game so good? I mean some parts were fun in co-op (for example the driving in the end). Allthough the driving controllers suck! Also the story is very easy and lame, was it supposed to be good? Lol, Ninja Gaiden II nearly has a better story. The gameplay is NOT the best I've played as a FPS game. For example, I like Brothers in Arms: Hell's Highway more than this one.

Gears of War (6.5)

And then this one... Okay it does look a bit like a movie, but is it enough for a good game? No. The game is way too messy. It is too hard to understand where you walk and the enviroment makes it harder. Plus, those 300kg costumes makes the character look quite stupid. The moving is quite annoying, especially the view of your character, it makes the game too unclear. And the story? Yet again a let down, nothing good.

These games are way too overrated.

Storyteller89

Okay, so I've heard basicly only good stuff about these games. I've also owned them for quite a while now. Halo 3 I played through with my brother and Gears of War too.

Halo 3 (7.0)

What in earth makes this game so good? I mean some parts were fun in co-op (for example the driving in the end). Allthough the driving controllers suck! Also the story is very easy and lame, was it supposed to be good? Lol, Ninja Gaiden II nearly has a better story. The gameplay is NOT the best I've played as a FPS game. For example, I like Brothers in Arms: Hell's Highway more than this one.

Gears of War (6.5)

And then this one... Okay it does look a bit like a movie, but is it enough for a good game? No. The game is way too messy. It is too hard to understand where you walk and the enviroment makes it harder. Plus, those 300kg costumes makes the character look quite stupid. The moving is quite annoying, especially the view of your character, it makes the game too unclear. And the story? Yet again a let down, nothing good.

These games are way too overrated.

Storyteller89

Thank you for your thorough and insightful reviews of Halo 3, which was released one year ago, and Gears of War, which was released two years ago. Please wait longer the next time you want review critically acclaimed games. Thank you for being a maverick and going against the mainstream. You are a true hero.dxy592

Your right they are not AMAZING games.But I find them fun to play with friends.I loved playing both games at one point[almost every single day]but after awhile I started to slow down.Now I just tend to play them here and there.But I can't wait for Gears 2 and Halo wars/Recon.But I do agree that they may not be the best games ever[like some people say]but they are fun to play.K1LLR3175

LoL, what`s the point of this post? Rating a game based on personal taste is just spam, has no value to the community.Go tell your cousin, i am sure someone will listen to you.

Sales and reviews are outstanding for both these games. They are labeled great games for all eternity... nothing can be done about it.

^Up. How childish is that.

Well, I usually buy games for their storymode. Both of these games suck on it (at least for me). If they are 90% based on multiplayer, then I still highly disagree with the over 9 points in reviews. Why? Because, for console games like these, there's supposed to be a very enjoyable storymode AND to make the score better they will add a very good multiplayer mode. If they're gonna make a game that is 90% based on online, why not forget the whole storymode and just make it 100% online.

And I did play em both in co-op. The multiplayer part I didn't try, cause it's not for me. I mean I kinda hate the enviroment and unclearity in both games. I prefer Orange Box multiplayer (half life 2).

Okay, so I've heard basicly only good stuff about these games. I've also owned them for quite a while now. Halo 3 I played through with my brother and Gears of War too.

Halo 3 (7.0)

What in earth makes this game so good? I mean some parts were fun in co-op (for example the driving in the end). Allthough the driving controllers suck! Also the story is very easy and lame, was it supposed to be good? Lol, Ninja Gaiden II nearly has a better story. The gameplay is NOT the best I've played as a FPS game. For example, I like Brothers in Arms: Hell's Highway more than this one.

Gears of War (6.5)

And then this one... Okay it does look a bit like a movie, but is it enough for a good game? No. The game is way too messy. It is too hard to understand where you walk and the enviroment makes it harder. Plus, those 300kg costumes makes the character look quite stupid. The moving is quite annoying, especially the view of your character, it makes the game too unclear. And the story? Yet again a let down, nothing good.

These games are way too overrated.

Storyteller89

Two words : Xbox Live...

I have to disagree, I love Gears. I dont find any of the things you mentioned an issue besides the story.

As for Halo, I'm not a fan but I enjoyed the multiplayer when I play with friends at their houses.

...The game is way too messy. It is too hard to understand where you walk and the enviroment makes it harder. Plus, those 300kg costumes makes the character look quite stupid. The moving is quite annoying, especially the view of your character, it makes the game too unclear. ...

Storyteller89

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Okay, so I've heard basicly only good stuff about these games. I've also owned them for quite a while now. Halo 3 I played through with my brother and Gears of War too.

Halo 3 (7.0)

What in earth makes this game so good? I mean some parts were fun in co-op (for example the driving in the end). Allthough the driving controllers suck! Also the story is very easy and lame, was it supposed to be good? Lol, Ninja Gaiden II nearly has a better story. The gameplay is NOT the best I've played as a FPS game. For example, I like Brothers in Arms: Hell's Highway more than this one.

Gears of War (6.5)

And then this one... Okay it does look a bit like a movie, but is it enough for a good game? No. The game is way too messy. It is too hard to understand where you walk and the enviroment makes it harder. Plus, those 300kg costumes makes the character look quite stupid. The moving is quite annoying, especially the view of your character, it makes the game too unclear. And the story? Yet again a let down, nothing good.

These games are way too overrated.

wile315

sounds like these just arent your type of games. I mean if you dont like moving in gears, its pretty much hopeless to like anything in the game. I love the third person feel of gears and I love the combat, and I gladly give that game a 9.5 so I guess thats where our opinion differs.

I agree with you for Halo 3 singleplayer, the story wasnt designed very well, but I love the multiplayer game play. Its way fun, you cant have the same intense combat feel in cod4 or BiA, I like those games, but its like you die so fast sometimes, Halo 3 combat is always intense.

Perhaps you missunderstood what I meant with hard to understand where to walk and it makes the game too uncleaer. What I meant is that the camera in my opinion is set in so annoying place that I can't enjoy the game at all. It really takes all the fun the game could possibly have away.

And a good third person shooter is for example MGS. Every single one of them. Now that is the way every third person shooter should be done. The moving is enjoyable, realistic and easy. Shooting happens without any problems with a very good aiming system.

What would make the moving in Gears of War better is if the camera was set further for the character. Also, the character should be allowed to walk more freely, now it feels a little like I'd be moving in a box. Especially in the split screen mode.

Army of Two is a very good example of how a third person shooter should be done in a split screen. In my opinion it has the best splitscreen ever.

Okay, so I've heard basicly only good stuff about these games. I've also owned them for quite a while now. Halo 3 I played through with my brother and Gears of War too.

Halo 3 (7.0)

What in earth makes this game so good? I mean some parts were fun in co-op (for example the driving in the end). Allthough the driving controllers suck! Also the story is very easy and lame, was it supposed to be good? Lol, Ninja Gaiden II nearly has a better story. The gameplay is NOT the best I've played as a FPS game. For example, I like Brothers in Arms: Hell's Highway more than this one.

Gears of War (6.5)

And then this one... Okay it does look a bit like a movie, but is it enough for a good game? No. The game is way too messy. It is too hard to understand where you walk and the enviroment makes it harder. Plus, those 300kg costumes makes the character look quite stupid. The moving is quite annoying, especially the view of your character, it makes the game too unclear. And the story? Yet again a let down, nothing good.

These games are way too overrated.

Storyteller89

Perhaps you missunderstood what I meant with hard to understand where to walk and it makes the game too uncleaer. What I meant is that the camera in my opinion is set in so annoying place that I can't enjoy the game at all. It really takes all the fun the game could possibly have away.

And a good third person shooter is for example MGS. Every single one of them. Now that is the way every third person shooter should be done. The moving is enjoyable, realistic and easy. Shooting happens without any problems with a very good aiming system.

What would make the moving in Gears of War better is if the camera was set further for the character. Also, the character should be allowed to walk more freely, now it feels a little like I'd be moving in a box. Especially in the split screen mode.

Army of Two is a very good example of how a third person shooter should be done in a split screen. In my opinion it has the best splitscreen ever.

Storyteller89

You do realize MGS4 basically IS Gears of War in regards to the basic shooting, camera placement behind Solid Snake, and cover system... right? If MGS had this perfect third person shooting system that was so much better than Gears, why did the fourth game basically copy the Gears system?

THANK YOU!!!! I always thought that Grz of war was bad, it was soo over rated. Halo 3 on the other hand was only fun playing legnedary wit friends, or at parties. :P

at my school, everybody wants Grz of war 2, but im not sure about it.... :S

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Perhaps you missunderstood what I meant with hard to understand where to walk and it makes the game too uncleaer. What I meant is that the camera in my opinion is set in so annoying place that I can't enjoy the game at all. It really takes all the fun the game could possibly have away.

And a good third person shooter is for example MGS. Every single one of them. Now that is the way every third person shooter should be done. The moving is enjoyable, realistic and easy. Shooting happens without any problems with a very good aiming system.

What would make the moving in Gears of War better is if the camera was set further for the character. Also, the character should be allowed to walk more freely, now it feels a little like I'd be moving in a box. Especially in the split screen mode.

Army of Two is a very good example of how a third person shooter should be done in a split screen. In my opinion it has the best splitscreen ever.

CronoSquall

You do realize MGS4 basically IS Gears of War in regards to the basic shooting, camera placement behind Solid Snake, and cover system... right? If MGS had this perfect third person shooting system that was so much better than Gears, why did the fourth game basically copy the Gears system?

You are kidding me right? MGS 4 copied NOTHING from Gears of Wars system, lmao. It has basicly the same system as every other MGS. How dare you tell me or anyone MGS 4 copied something from gears of war. If we are comparing MGS and gears of war. Then Gears of War gets 1. MGS 4 gets 10.

[QUOTE="CronoSquall"][QUOTE="Storyteller89"]

Perhaps you missunderstood what I meant with hard to understand where to walk and it makes the game too uncleaer. What I meant is that the camera in my opinion is set in so annoying place that I can't enjoy the game at all. It really takes all the fun the game could possibly have away.

And a good third person shooter is for example MGS. Every single one of them. Now that is the way every third person shooter should be done. The moving is enjoyable, realistic and easy. Shooting happens without any problems with a very good aiming system.

What would make the moving in Gears of War better is if the camera was set further for the character. Also, the character should be allowed to walk more freely, now it feels a little like I'd be moving in a box. Especially in the split screen mode.

Army of Two is a very good example of how a third person shooter should be done in a split screen. In my opinion it has the best splitscreen ever.

Storyteller89

You do realize MGS4 basically IS Gears of War in regards to the basic shooting, camera placement behind Solid Snake, and cover system... right? If MGS had this perfect third person shooting system that was so much better than Gears, why did the fourth game basically copy the Gears system?

You are kidding me right? MGS 4 copied NOTHING from Gears of Wars system, lmao. It has basicly the same system as every other MGS. How dare you tell me or anyone MGS 4 copied something from gears of war. If we are comparing MGS and gears of war. Then Gears of War gets 1. MGS 4 gets 10.

You are kidding me right? MGS 4 copied NOTHING from Gears of Wars system, lmao. It has basicly the same system as every other MGS. How dare you tell me or anyone MGS 4 copied something from gears of war. If we are comparing MGS and gears of war. Then Gears of War gets 1. MGS 4 gets 10.

Storyteller89

The basic implementation of the camera behind Snake at all times, with an over the shoulder view that grants full precise aiming even when moving, and a cover system. Thats Gears of War, that is nothing like any previous MGS game, where dramatic camera angles were used, and to aim precisely you had to come to a complete stop, enter a first person mode, and THEN aim for a specific body part and hope the enemy stands still long enough to be shot. I get the feeling you have yet to actually play MGS4. I invested over fourty hours into it, and almost as much time into Gears and Halo 3.

I find all three games to be fantastic, because I am a gamer who plays great games, not a sad fanboy who feels the need to scream jibberish on the internet and play petulant forum wars.

Thank you for your thorough and insightful reviews of Halo 3, which was released one year ago, and Gears of War, which was released two years ago. Please wait longer the next time you want review critically acclaimed games. Thank you for being a maverick and going against the mainstream. You are a true hero.dxy592

I lol'ed.

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You are kidding me right? MGS 4 copied NOTHING from Gears of Wars system, lmao. It has basicly the same system as every other MGS. How dare you tell me or anyone MGS 4 copied something from gears of war. If we are comparing MGS and gears of war. Then Gears of War gets 1. MGS 4 gets 10.

CronoSquall

The basic implementation of the camera behind Snake at all times, with an over the shoulder view that grants full aiming, and a cover system. Thats Gears of War, that is nothing like any previous MGS game, where dramatic camera angles were used, and to aim precisely you had to come to a complete stop, enter a first person mode, and THEN aim for a specific body part and hope the enemy stands still long enough to be shot. I get the feeling you have yet to actually play MGS4.

I've finished MGS4 and how many games have you played to think it was Gears of War that brought that idea? That idea has been used in MANY games even before Gears of War. The thing here is, Gears trying to use that system sucks. They obviously have no clue of how to use that idea.

I've finished MGS4 and how many games have you played to think it was Gears of War that brought that idea? That idea has been used in MANY games even before Gears of War. The thing here is, Gears trying to use that system sucks. They obviously have no clue of how to use that idea.

Storyteller89

This is why I prefer posting during the week, kids are at school. Gears perfected that system of third person shooting, it had never been done as well before Gears of War, and it was done so well that MGS4 adopted the same style of shooting gameplay. You said MGS4 has the same system as previous games, and as my previous reply shows, you were dead wrong. You were wrong because you have no idea what the heck you're talking about, because you sir, are a troll. I'm an informed gamer, you are an agenda pushing troll who has lost site of whats important in this hobby years ago, you will always lose to me.

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I've finished MGS4 and how many games have you played to think it was Gears of War that brought that idea? That idea has been used in MANY games even before Gears of War. The thing here is, Gears trying to use that system sucks. They obviously have no clue of how to use that idea.

CronoSquall

This is why I prefer posting during the week, kids are at school. Gears perfected that system of third person shooting, ithad never been done as well before Gears of War, and it was done so well that MGS4 adopted the same style of shooting gameplay. You said MGS4 has the same system as previous games, and as my previous reply shows, you were dead wrong. You were wrong because you have no idea what the heck you're talking about, because you sir, are a troll.

I'm 19, finished school last summer and am now working. What a childish attempt to insult me.

I don't know what the heck I'm talking about? Excuse me, but you must be one hell of an idiot. I mean, have you ever played, lets see... MGS 1? Apparently not.

[QUOTE="CronoSquall"][QUOTE="Storyteller89"]

I've finished MGS4 and how many games have you played to think it was Gears of War that brought that idea? That idea has been used in MANY games even before Gears of War. The thing here is, Gears trying to use that system sucks. They obviously have no clue of how to use that idea.

Storyteller89

This is why I prefer posting during the week, kids are at school. Gears perfected that system of third person shooting, ithad never been done as well before Gears of War, and it was done so well that MGS4 adopted the same style of shooting gameplay. You said MGS4 has the same system as previous games, and as my previous reply shows, you were dead wrong. You were wrong because you have no idea what the heck you're talking about, because you sir, are a troll.

I'm 19, finished school last summer and am now working. What a childish attempt to insult me.

I don't know what the heck I'm talking about? Excuse me, but you must be one hell of an idiot. I mean, have you ever played, lets see... MGS 1? Apparently not.

Yes I have, but seeing as you made the completely erroneous statement that MGS4 has the exact same system as previous games..... If you can play MGS1 and MGS4, and make that statement, it's pretty obvious you haven't played it, sir. As for your age, thank you for killing my faith in the human race.

Lose to you? Hmm. So, you thought we are having a battle here? I thought we are just talking about the game systems. How can I lose to a man who thinks he's fighting me while I have no clue that we are fighting and thought we are just talking about the system as two gamers.

Really low of you to put yourself over someone else and think you're actually better without even dualing me.

It is pretty obvious you never played them as you cant see they got the same damn system.

It is pretty obvious you never played them as you cant see they got the same damn system.

Storyteller89

I have explained, in detail, how the systems are vastly different. In a game like MGS2 you had dramatic camera angles, and you had to hold still, and enter a first person mode to do precise shooting. In MGS4 the camera is set behind Snake for a better view of the battlefield around him, and when you hold down a button, the camera goes to an over the shoulder perspective from which Snake can shoot precisely, and still move freely. How are those two "the same damn system"?

MGS4's shooting system certainly does have something in common with another game, but it's not ANY previous MGS game, it's Gears of War.

Ya, i know eh?

Like the graphics, multiplayer, campaign and gameplay are perfect, but, like thats not enough....

Ya, i know eh?

Like the graphics, multiplayer, campaign and gameplay are perfect, but, like thats not enough....

nickmat_tycoon

They should make Gears of war 2 a JRPG, to satisfy this guys need for "teh epic storiez!!!!!!11!". It could be turn based, fourty hours long, and Marcus and Dom can have big ass anime eyes, exposed mid riffs, and colorful tassles in long girly hair.

But no seriously, if you want epic story telling, why are you playing an Epic produced Unreal Engine powered shooter? Seriously? The story exists in these games to give you a reason to kill things, thats it.