Gears of War 2 :What needs to be put in or fixed and what needs to be taken out

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#1 Peter_Cheek
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I'm just going to list a few so I don't take other peoples lists

IN:

Female Cog and Locust

A heavy chain-gun (it will make you move slow though)

Flash grenades

night vision may be cool when underground

team achievements

FIXED:

Multiplayer weapon balance plus no host advantage

The BOOM splash damage

all the glitches

one button for run one button for cover

OUT:

Vehicle levels

Hammer of Dawn

Assassination

multiplayer weapon achievements

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#2 MsCortana
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My biggest problem with Gears is the multiplayer and all the achievements that coincide. If the interface for multiplayer is shoddy, how do you expect consumers to play enough to attain these achievements. As far as in-game, I don't have much to complain about. A better aiming system for the grenades would be nice and the ability to equip an ultraviolet ray gun of sorts to ward off the kril (sp?)
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#3 FamiBox
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Gears 2. What needs to be taken out?

Cowboys and any wild west imagery.

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#4 XxSTILL_BORNxX
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The active reload in the sniper is what bothers me... what grinds my gears is that whenever i shoot the boom at someone and he dosnt fall....in the end he takes the sniper because he knows if he keeps running and jump & shoot at the same time...he could also make an active reload while he is running and then he could just turn and shoot since he/she also knows that if the bullet is active...no matter what....u will fall on your knee's.
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#5 vitriolboy
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I hope it has 4 player co op campaign
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#6 mikel222222
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biggest problem is the multiplayer. With only one of each gun type spawning(one sniper, bow) its makes the person with the gun over powerful as the machine guns hardly do anything
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#7 Peter_Cheek
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the ability to equip an ultraviolet ray gun of sorts to ward off the kril (sp?) MsCortana

Yeah I was just thinking like a flashlight somewhere on your armor to turn on and off to at least scare them off plus just to help in dark places.

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#8 Peter_Cheek
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biggest problem is the multiplayer. With only one of each gun type spawning(one sniper, bow) its makes the person with the gun over powerful as the machine guns hardly do anythingmikel222222

Then you have your own "Teammates" fighting over them just for the achievement.You end up with some guy like me that can't use the sniper to save there lives "shouting out "I call sniper".I never touch the thing.So I always start out with "Is anyone good with the sniper cause I'm not" then I try to cover for them.

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#9 DopeyDavoid
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There will ALWAYS be host advantage period in every p2p game unless you either

a. Make the host suffer too or

b. Find some way to increase the speed of light and/or increase the cpu speed of all world-wide computer systems that route your intenet data.

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#10 Cooldude224
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No more driving missiions.
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#11 Peter_Cheek
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My biggest problem with Gears is the multiplayer and all the achievements that coincide. If the interface for multiplayer is shoddy, how do you expect consumers to play enough to attain these achievements. As far as in-game, I don't have much to complain about. A better aiming system for the grenades would be nice and the ability to equip an ultraviolet ray gun of sorts to ward off the kril (sp?) MsCortana

I'm also with ya on the achievements.If all the multiplayer modes are team based why not the achievements?They need to get in touch with Bungie for there interface.It's by far the best.

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#12 Peter_Cheek
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No more driving missiions.Cooldude224

I agree 100%

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#13 Peter_Cheek
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There will ALWAYS be host advantage period in every p2p game unless you either

a. Make the host suffer too or

b. Find some way to increase the speed of light and/or increase the cpu speed of all world-wide computer systems that route your intenet data.

DopeyDavoid

True but not to this extent of advantage.It can be made better and I think it will be.

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There will ALWAYS be host advantage period in every p2p game unless you either

a. Make the host suffer too or

b. Find some way to increase the speed of light and/or increase the cpu speed of all world-wide computer systems that route your intenet data.

DopeyDavoid

client side hit detection.

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#15 Peter_Cheek
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The active reload in the sniper is what bothers me... what grinds my gears is that whenever i shoot the boom at someone and he dosnt fall....in the end he takes the sniper because he knows if he keeps running and jump & shoot at the same time...he could also make an active reload while he is running and then he could just turn and shoot since he/she also knows that if the bullet is active...no matter what....u will fall on your knee's.XxSTILL_BORNxX

I like the idea of the active reload as far as you are physically reloading your gun and you can do it faster then other people and vicaversa plus you can screw up and jam the gun is cool.However the idea that it some how makes you bullets magically more powerful is a little lame.

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#16 capthavic
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Female Cog and Locust

Peter_Cheek

There were female Locust in GoW 1. It was the berserker XD

Vehicles and MP achievements should be in the fix column. They just need to make them more fun and more reasonably attainable respectively.

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#17 Peter_Cheek
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[QUOTE="Peter_Cheek"]

Female Cog and Locust

capthavic

There were female Locust in GoW 1. It was the berserker XD

LOL I stand corrected.

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#18 kerrman
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Single Player doesn't need to change a thing, as long as they maintain a good story, add some new enemies, a couple of new weapons, then I'll be set and it will be incredible.

Multiplayer online, don't even get me started. Unbalanced, every game has 2 or 3 kids under the age of 13 (can't really change that though), sniper rifle is way too easy to get kills with, glitching is everywhere..

As for co-op, the greatest aspect of the first game, I wouldn't change very much.. just the same changes as single player, keep the whole "seperate paths" thing, and add 4 player co-op would make it be the best co-op game again.

Gears 2 will be a game I buy for sure, but it's nothing I'll pre-order or rush out to get. should be a fun campaign once again though!

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#19 bxgt
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There will ALWAYS be host advantage period in every p2p game unless you either

a. Make the host suffer too or

b. Find some way to increase the speed of light and/or increase the cpu speed of all world-wide computer systems that route your intenet data.

DopeyDavoid
Or just host the games on there servers.
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#20 Enraged_Bannana
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i think they should add:

a ranking or leveling system (what ever you want to call it) like call of duty 4's

a lancer that dosnt completely suck

matchmaking

i think they should throw away:

hosting

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#21 dxy592
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I'm just going to list a few so I don't take other peoples lists

IN:

Female Cog and Locust

A heavy chain-gun (it will make you move slow though)

Flash grenades

night vision may be cool when underground

team achievements

FIXED:

Multiplayer weapon balance plus no host advantage

The BOOM splash damage

all the glitches

one button for run one button for cover

OUT:

Vehicle levels

Hammer of Dawn

Assassination

multiplayer weapon achievements

Peter_Cheek

I agree with your "IN" list. However, your "Fixed" and "Out" lists aren't going to happen.

There will always be a certain amount of host advantage without dedicated servers.

The one button system of Gears is very good, you just have to get used to it (like you get used to any other game's control system).

Vehicle levels will be in Gears 2 (you roll around in a giant tank).

The hammer of dawn is a balanced weapon because of the amount of time it takes to learn how to use it. If anything, the sniper rifle's active reload needs more fixing than the Hammer.

Multiplayer weapons achievements should be reduced in number, but not completely eliminated. I can understand that not all people play online and can feel "robbed" since they can't get the multiplayer achievements, but most people who buy this game will play it online.

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[QUOTE="Cooldude224"]No more driving missiions.Peter_Cheek

I agree 100%

Yeah, plus the machine gun (lancer) was crap in GoW mainly because it took a whole clip to kill someone in multiplayer at a decent range, so I think they should create more machine gun models.

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#23 dxy592
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[QUOTE="Peter_Cheek"]

[QUOTE="Cooldude224"]No more driving missiions.KOTORkicker

I agree 100%

Yeah, plus the machine gun (lancer) was crap in GoW mainly because it took a whole clip to kill someone in multiplayer at a decent range, so I think they should create more machine gun models.

If you're host, you can down somebody with about 1/2 to 3/4 of a clip, depending on the active reload bonus. That's why I don't bother with the power weapons while I'm the host. The lancer is the host's most reliable weapon.

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#24 martialbullet
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night vision huh? that should only work in the dark if the locust doesn't see you. But then it would be like a stealth game....eh seems out of place to me.

I'm guessing Gears stole Splinter Cells night Vision, now Sam Fisher is stuck with nothing running away from the law :(

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#25 Shmiity
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There needs to be some sort of matchmaking on dedicated servers, if Gears is to do away with host advantage

The glitches in the MP were abused by the jack ass community. Glitches are in every game, its the players who abuse them.

I would to see a glitch/cheat free MP, and a way to eliminate host advantage, or make it less ridiculous.

I loved gears, its just some quirky technical aspects need fixing.

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#26 -Phaz-
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Longer and Harder Campaign would be good.
I didnt mind the weapon achievements but they should get rid of them.
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Partying

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#28 cadiu
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Multiplayer vehicles, more weapons.
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#29 xXTalismanXx
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Matchmaking, more multiplayer modes and make the lancer more powerful.
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#30 Elann2008
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I disagree with the Lancer comments. I think the gun will be extremely cheap if it were to be more powerful than that. It is already easy to take some one down with a lancer and it doesnt take one full clip if done right. A Lancer is already cheap when used. Could you imagine if they made it more powerful and people would be able to take their opponent down in half a clip or less? People would hate the lancer even more. They already hate it enough because of the chainsaw. Although personally, I dont mind when people use the lancer. As it is right now, it's really balanced and the chainsaw more than makes up for it.

They need to put in 4-player Co-op. That would be the highlight of my day everytime I play Gears of War. But, there's a catch. On 4-player co-op, you can only unlock it after you beat the game in casual, hardcore, and insane. This opens up, Extreme mode, or whatever, where you can play 4-player co-op. And it should be twice as difficult as insane mode, if not more.

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#31 DataDIE
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Partying

laxattack7

This should basically be the most important thing they can update in Gears 2.

As for host, If they implemented a dedicated server system (a-la PDZ) then the host advantage would be eliminated. I doubt they'll do that, though.

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#32 MERC_RECONN
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A flash light for the night time missions....other then that, Geow is almost flawless to me.
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#33 kozzy1234
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Alot more weapons, longer singleplayer and actually make the online fun!
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#34 Enraged_Bannana
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they should have something that tracks your progress in weapon acheivments
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#35 grafkhun
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hammer of dawn stays :D and 1 button for run and one for cover is exactly what i was going to say. really hated that when you want to hide and you roll into your enemy who has his shotgun out or something. 1 button for run and roll and 1 button for cover.

oh and obviously a much better SP campaign, with a cohesive story and some more meat to it.

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#36 dazza_avo
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I hope it has 4 player co op campaignvitriolboy

It might be too easy though.

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#37 deactivated-5cf2c77e6a2c5
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biggest problem is the multiplayer. With only one of each gun type spawning(one sniper, bow) its makes the person with the gun over powerful as the machine guns hardly do anythingmikel222222

Its adds more tactics to the game .. i.e guard the weapon and take out people trying to rush in and take it yourself .. (if that makes sense)

Anyway

Add

  • option to have a no chainsaw match
  • map editor (i wish) well maybe something like a forge in halo)
  • Vehicles?
  • cluster bombs
  • trip bombs/mines
  • c4
  • laser sights
  • more players in a game
  • bigger maps
  • More Game Mods

Fix

  • Host advantage
  • Better Lobbys
  • Ranked Match quitting issues
  • Glitches
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#38 Zombie_Eric
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It needs a longer, better single player before I'll even look at it.
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#39 luke182777
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this is what needs to happen to the next gears of war. They need to make sure it has a long single player campaign (15 hrs or more) they also need to fix the multiplayer. i don't want to wait for the next round when i die. i also would love to see a free for all mode.
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#41 Iceman2911
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Some Killzone2 graphics and more time to be developed.
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#42 DeadBullet
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I'm just going to list a few so I don't take other peoples lists

IN:

Female Cog and Locust

A heavy chain-gun (it will make you move slow though)

Flash grenades

night vision may be cool when underground

team achievements

FIXED:

Multiplayer weapon balance plus no host advantage

The BOOM splash damage

all the glitches

one button for run one button for cover

OUT:

Vehicle levels

Hammer of Dawn

Assassination

multiplayer weapon achievements

Peter_Cheek

Man didnt anyone had problems with the stupid AI... Youre making me think its just me..

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#43 gears90
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They need to get rid of active reloads.

They need to do something with multiplayer. Maybe add rankings or at least let you choose your own guns.

They should make the chainsaw easier to use.

The driving missions need to either get rid of or at least improve.

Theres probably a couple other things, but 1 was pretty good and not that much to improve on (at least for single player)

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#44 MsCortana
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Man didnt anyone had problems with the stupid AI... Youre making me think its just me..

DeadBullet
No...you're not alone. The AI needs a lot of improvement.
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#45 Peter_Cheek
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night vision huh? that should only work in the dark if the locust doesn't see you. But then it would be like a stealth game....eh seems out of place to me.

I'm guessing Gears stole Splinter Cells night Vision, now Sam Fisher is stuck with nothing running away from the law :(

martialbullet

I don't want to turn it ito a stelth game at all.I just thought that if we are going to be underground a lot(witch it sounds like we may be).It could be cool in some places.I don't know I guess I just like green things. :oops:

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#46 Peter_Cheek
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this is what needs to happen to the next gears of war. They need to make sure it has a long single player campaign (15 hrs or more) they also need to fix the multiplayer. i don't want to wait for the next round when i die. i also would love to see a free for all mode. luke182777

Just a strait up death match.

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#47 Peter_Cheek
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[QUOTE="Peter_Cheek"]

I'm just going to list a few so I don't take other peoples lists

IN:

Female Cog and Locust

A heavy chain-gun (it will make you move slow though)

Flash grenades

night vision may be cool when underground

team achievements

FIXED:

Multiplayer weapon balance plus no host advantage

The BOOM splash damage

all the glitches

one button for run one button for cover

OUT:

Vehicle levels

Hammer of Dawn

Assassination

multiplayer weapon achievements

DeadBullet

Man didnt anyone had problems with the stupid AI... Youre making me think its just me..

It's not just you.I just kind of assume they will do a better job with that.That kind of goes along with better graphics.They tend to get better from one game to the next.

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#48 mtradr43
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They need to get rid of active reloads.

They need to do something with multiplayer. Maybe add rankings or at least let you choose your own guns.

They should make the chainsaw easier to use.

The driving missions need to either get rid of or at least improve.

Theres probably a couple other things, but 1 was pretty good and not that much to improve on (at least for single player)

gears90

just change the reloads to make it reload faster, not extra damage.

No own guns, everyone would choose the torque bow or the boom, and it would turn into a queer fest.

chainsaw is easy to use already

i can agree on the driving mission, it was pretty gay

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#49 Tony_Bauer
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IN: 4 players campaign

OUT: HOST ADVANTAGE!!!

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#50 YodtheHermit
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They need to do something with the sounds of the LANCER and HAMMERBURST.They sound so...wimpy.GEARS RULES!