Half-Life 2 is the best game of all-time

Actually, anyone want to use my Game Boy link cable and trade me a Squirtle from their Pokemon R/B/Y copy?

Lets ignore Half-Life, Half-Life 2, Borderlands, System Shock 2, Deus Ex, STALKER, Brothers in Arms, Bulletstorm, Far Cry, Metro 2033, Timesplitter 2, Metroid Prime trilogy, Killzone 3, Jedi Knight 2, Call of Cthulhu, FEAR, Chronicles of Riddick, Clive Barker's Undying, and Medal of Honor Allied Assault.

Lets all go play Peggle.

sephy37

I'd much rather play Peggle than at least half of that list. Games like Far Cry and Brothers in Arms are perfect examples of what I was talking about. So fvcking boring.

...not to mention most of that list is from last generation or earlier. Not a great way of showing how good FPSes are in 2012.

Don't know what your problem with farcry is JML. It was a groundbreaking game for the Pc when it was released. Absolutley brilliant method of gaming from crytek we haven't seen before.

Not all FPS are that bad. They all mainly focus on modernwarfare which is the whole bore to them. But apart from that games like Crysis on the Pc are what define "Next Generation."

Everything sephy mentioned in his post are really good games. Especially timesplitters 2, which me and scott play even to this day.

But you do rarley get a good first person shooter. And all of the ones worth playing are released on the PC. I think the last "OK" fps game i played was Killzone 3. Other than that battlefeild was a brilliant game for it's multiplayer and not for it's fps aspect of gaming.

I'f i had to name good FPS game's i've played i'd say these:

1. Farcry
2. Crysis
3. Medal of honour (ps1)
4. Killzone
5. Duke nukem time to kill
6. Duke Nukem land of the babes
7. Timesplitters 2
8. Serious sam
9. Medal of honur underground (ps1)
10. Return to castle wolfenstein (PC)
11. Doom
12. Unreal tournament 2004
13. The chronicles of riddick : Escape from butcher bay (PC.)
14. Halo combat evolved
15. Half life 1 (PC)
16. Half life 2 (Including all of the episodes.)
17. Golden eye
18. Perfect dark
19. Borderlands
20. Fallout 3
21. Elder Scrolls franchise (PC and 360.)
22. Soldier of fortune (Xbox.)
23. Call of duty WaW
24. Prey (PC)
25. Bioshock
26. F.E.A.R 1 (PC)
27. Theif
28. Counter Strike source
29. Swat 4
30. Tom clancys Rainbow six
31. Battlefeild 1943
32. Metroid prime (Gamecube.)
33. Deus Ex franchise
34. Quake 2

All Fck'n brilliant FPS games.

Don't get me wrong, I love(d) games like Doom and Serious Sam. I just think the genre is pretty stale today.

I fck'n love serious sam. It's so cheesey and insanely crazy. It's good you can still buy them for XBL arcade. The only game in my mind to capture that kind of crazy from a game and do it well. Serious sam is by far one of my best FPS games i've played. Just purley nuts.

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MW2's 3rd person is alright. But after playing battlefeild 3, Cod can suck a fat one.

JML897

Lets ignore Half-Life, Half-Life 2, Borderlands, System Shock 2, Deus Ex, STALKER, Brothers in Arms, Bulletstorm, Far Cry, Metro 2033, Timesplitter 2, Metroid Prime trilogy, Killzone 3, Jedi Knight 2, Call of Cthulhu, FEAR, Chronicles of Riddick, Clive Barker's Undying, and Medal of Honor Allied Assault.

Lets all go play Peggle.

sephy37

Don't know what your problem with farcry is JML. It was a groundbreaking game for the Pc when it was released. Absolutley brilliant method of gaming from crytek we haven't seen before.

Not all FPS are that bad. They all mainly focus on modernwarfare which is the whole bore to them. But apart from that games like Crysis on the Pc are what define "Next Generation."

Everything sephy mentioned in his post are really good games. Especially timesplitters 2, which me and scott play even to this day.

But you do rarley get a good first person shooter. And all of the ones worth playing are released on the PC. I think the last "OK" fps game i played was Killzone 3. Other than that battlefeild was a brilliant game for it's multiplayer and not for it's fps aspect of gaming.

I'f i had to name good FPS game's i've played i'd say these:

1. Farcry
2. Crysis
3. Medal of honour (ps1)
4. Killzone
5. Duke nukem time to kill
6. Duke Nukem land of the babes
7. Timesplitters 2
8. Serious sam
9. Medal of honur underground (ps1)
10. Return to castle wolfenstein (PC)
11. Doom
12. Unreal tournament 2004
13. The chronicles of riddick : Escape from butcher bay (PC.)
14. Halo combat evolved
15. Half life 1 (PC)
16. Half life 2 (Including all of the episodes.)
17. Golden eye
18. Perfect dark
19. Borderlands
20. Fallout 3
21. Elder Scrolls franchise (PC and 360.)
22. Soldier of fortune (Xbox.)
23. Call of duty WaW
24. Prey (PC)
25. Bioshock
26. F.E.A.R 1 (PC)
27. Theif
28. Counter Strike source
29. Swat 4
30. Tom clancys Rainbow six
31. Battlefeild 1943
32. Metroid prime (Gamecube.)
33. Deus Ex franchise
34. Quake 2

All Fck'n brilliant FPS games.

cryceaye5

My Favourite FPS Games:

45) F.E.A.R
44) Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Vegas
43) Counter-Strike
42) Maraphon
41) Medal Of Honour Series
40) Battlefield 3
39) STALKER
38) Star Wars Jedi Knight: Dark Forces II
37) Descent 3
36) Unreal Tournament
35) Deus Ex: Human Revolution
34) Soldier Of Fortune 2
33) Turok 2: Seeds of Evil
32) Brothers In Arms
31) Unreal Tournament 2004
30) TimeSplitters: Future Perfect
29) Call Of Cthulhu
28) Alien vs. Predator 2
27) Thief: The Dark Project
26) Battlefield 1942
25) Red Faction
24) Quake III Arena
23) Return to Castle Wolfenstein
22) Quake
21) Portal 1+2 (Kinda Counts)
20) The Chronicles of Riddick: Escape From Butcher Bay
19) Bioshock
18) Doom 3
17) Crysis
16) Metroid Prime
15) Timesplitters 2
14) Farcry
13) Duke Nukem 3D
12) Doom 2
11) Quake II
10) Doom
9) Half-Life
8) Left 4 Dead
7) Wolfenstein 3D
6) Deus Ex
5) Halo: Combat Evolved
4) Half-Life 2
3) Perfect Dark
2) Goldeneye
1) System Shock 2

I forgot:

1. Left 4 Dead
2. Time Crisis (ps1)
3. Portal

Damn Truth Tellers. You're missing out on some good Fck'n games. You don't really need HAL to play Half life 1,2. Just an average graphics card that supports direct x 9. But for games like farcry and crysis you need a super computer to play it well enough.

And if you love RPGS then you "WILL" love fallout 3. So much different than most RPGS with alot to explore in the wastelands. Lots of weird and mysterious thing's you come across aswell. I enjoy it on par with Skyrim. But obviously Skyrim has the best world ina video game hands down. But Skyrim kind of lacks the mysterious venture of weird shyte compared to fallout 3.

I wouldn't bother playing New Vegas. It's very one sided as far as the story is concerned and the mojahve desert is boring as Fck to explore. But you might like it you might not. Certainly no where near as good as Fallout 3 though.

Bioshock has one of the best story's in a game in the 360. You'll really enjoy it aswell. It's almost completley different to any FPS i've ever played. It also has some elements of an RPG that skyrim ahs picked up on and taken from bioshock itself. Ontop of that the levels in bioshock i really detailed and have a prestine feel to them. You're never going into the same kind of level twice. Also if you like a challenge that you don't get on games these days, then bioshock is definitley one to go far.

Deus Ex Invisible war and Human Revolutions are brilliant games aswell. Invisble war is more like your perfect dark concept while Human revolutions captures more of a stealthy impact and can be compared to MGS. But overall both games follow the cyberpunk genre very well. I like Human revolutions a bit more because of it's game mechanics,choices and the fact you can also see your player in 3rd person when in cover. Which i find is a good attribute to input into the game. The story is actually quite a good one at that. And the graphics are Fck'n beautiful. It looks like it's being played on a top class PC even on consoles. And also it has some RPG elements to it aswell. Upgrades and minor choices in the game being that. Also if you're an acheivment or trophy goer, then they're quite exciting to get.

It saddens me that people think Bioshock is revolutionary and what not. Don't get me wrong, its a great game, and one of the better ones in recent years, but it literally borrowed so much from System Shock 2. It's insane to think that people have not played System Shock 2, and just go straight to Bioshock, which is inferior in almost every way, apart from graphics.

'According to the developers, BioShock is a spiritual successor to the System Shock games'

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BioShock

Seriously, Bioshock is great, but its not a masterpiece like System Shock 2.

No one think's bioshock is revolutionary. Everyone just says it's a good game because it is. The fact that skyrim borrowed elements from bioshock doesn't mean it's a game that has changed preferences for other games. If you think that you're a Fck'n idiot.

Even 2k themselves claim Bioshock as system shock 2's spiritual succesor. It's not like they're oblivious to system shock at all.

Everyone pretty much says Bioshock was revolutionary. G4 even named it the best game of all-time a few months ago.

G4 thinks games like Gears of war are revolutionary.

Bioshock is a brilliant Fck'n game. And the fact that the developers themselves have self proclaimed it as a spiritual successor to System shock 2 means they acknowledge influence from it and they themselves know they haven't revolutionized anything. And influence from their own Fck'n game. Because the same people who made Systemshock 2 developed bioshock. So even more of a reason to prove to Fck'n pathetic reviewers that bio shock is not a revolutionized game.

And you'd also be suprised how many people know that Systemshock2 exists and have played it. Just because everyone shags call of duty nowadays doesn't mean they've never played Systemshock2. I know alot of people on XBL on my freinds list, my age and above who have played it. Sh!t even they mention older games such as Megaman X. Which has nothing to do with FPS at all, but it's a game from 1993 on the Snes that even they have played and know about. Systemshock 2 which is the most memorable game out of the two came out in 1999. If you think about it, it's not actually that old at all.

But even i havem't played the first one which was released on a floppy disk. I didn't even own a PC back then. Not to mention i was 2 years old and haven't really bothered to check up on it since.

Not to mention that systemshock 2 is always classed in the top 20 or even 10 FPS games of all time.

System shock 2 branched just under a million units. While other games such as dragon age 2 has sold around the same. But most people 10 years from now will know what it was and a majority of them might of even played it.

The only reason system shock is rare to get is because they stopped selling them in stores a few months after its release, because the marketing campaign wasn't huge and not alot of people wanted to buy it. But i know a few people who have bought it from amazon and even if people haven't played the game they still know what it is.

Dragon age 2,blue dragon,two worlds who sold less than a million units will end up in the same manner. But it doesn't mean people don't know what they're and it certainly doesn't mean they haven't played them.

I've played system shock 2 so has my uncle. It wasn't hard to get hold of them ago. Excluding the fact that people like my uncle made pirate copies for his freinds. I even got a dozen games in my CD folder that you'll struggle to buy in shops now and online. And most of them are pirate copies. Games such as carmageddon and the first need for speed, rollcage, Dungeon seige 1 etc. I must have around 50 games in my wallet that hardly anyone can buy now if not at all. And i'm not the only one in the world who has done it. I bet you there are thousands if not hundreds of thousands of people that didn't want to by PC games because they could get pirate copies of it. And in the 90's that's what alot of people were doing.

Infact if you're interested i even have systemshock 2 lol. I was looking thorugh my folder whilst typing to see what games i had.That's fck'n class because i didn't even know i had it. If you want i can see if my uncle can make a copy for you. But i don't know if it'll work on our PCS now because of windows 7. But tht's **** class man, i'd check it out now but this laptop is shyte.

Vice City is the best GTA.

GTA IV, is one of my girlfriends favourite games. Why, which one is your favourite Razor-Lazor?

IV, although I haven't played much of the others. I think I own III, though.

I have so much time played in IV, it's unreal. 

Are you still playing it even today?

Because if you are, I'd join a game with you. Depending on what system you are on. Unless, you only play single player?

And don't worry, most people get on with me A-Ok online and in real life.

Lol, a million units is a minor population of gamers out there. Compared to most of the high selling games and the population of gamers there are, the game is not that well known. I mean, I'd understand if your argument was 'It may not have been played by a lot of people, but a lot of PC users have heard of it', then I'd at least understand that. When I'm talking about old games with my xbox friends, none of them have even heard of some of the games I've mentioned. Like I said, with my Steam, Multiplayer PC games, only some have heard of it. But even then, none have played it. Like most gamers out there. When I played it on my Dad's PC, he had his copied off a friend and only he out of all my dad's PC friends had the game. Even my brother still ask's 'What was that game you used to play', the last time I spoke to him. That Niel, who used to babysit me, is the only other person I've known to also have the game and when I played it again on his computer, he told me how he wishes it was more well known. Yea dude, please force your Uncle to make a copy, because I don't really want to pay for a used copy of the game from people I don't trust.pokajabba

When did i ever say a million units was alot of games. To this day mass effect 1 has only sold 2 million units and even that isn't alot of sales. Not many people even buy good games like deadspace which almost all my freinds on my XBL have played. The only higher games you'lll get selling today are huge multiplayer games such as Cod, Battlefeild and world of warcraft.

It probably isn't well known to people who majorly play the 360. But then again the majority of them probably have never played playstation one. You can bet your ass hardly any of them have even touched the first max payne or played medievil or rayman. That's how many Fck'n people you start comparing games like that to who have a 360 and Fck'n wii and don't even know any other games before the XBOX and the playstation 2.

I gurantee you alot of pc players probably have played it. I've got the game right next to me and didn't even know i had it. There's probably lots of other people like me that do have pirate copies like i said. But i can't prove that they have and i can't prove that they haven't. I bet if you looked hard enough on pirate copy sites for PC games you'd be able to download it straight to your harddrive.

Anyway man, i'm gonna phone my uncle and see what he can do, i'd try but i don't even know what i'm doing. I'm off the laptop coz "SOMEONE" wants to buy shyte of argos, so i was wondering if you wanted to come on xbox 360 and play some minecraft. Send me a message on XBL if you can, i'll be on in like 10 minutes. And i can't be arsed to play battlefeild 3 man, not in the mood for shooting people.

Any Grand Theft Auto fans?Razor-Lazor

Let's talk more about games...

Anyone got any questions or thoughts, on anything game related?pokajabba

All that goes in this thread. ;)

Gabe is too busy with DOTA and Steam making him millions and millions of dollars without lifting a finger.