You would of thought MS could learn from Sony pre-order mistakes, but nope. (Angry Joe)

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#1  Edited By daredevils2k  Online
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I guess MS isn't immune to f ups

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#2 Pedro  Online
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I wasn't able to get a PS5 but was able to get a Xbox. I wonder which one was worse?🤔

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@Pedro: I wouldn't base your judgement upon your own experiences in general

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@X_CAPCOM_X said:

@Pedro: I wouldn't base your judgement upon your own experiences in general

Isn't that the very nature of this thread?

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@Pedro said:

I wasn't able to get a PS5 but was able to get a Xbox. I wonder which one was worse?🤔

You were never getting a PS5 regardless.

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#7 Telekill
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I feel I got lucky with being able to secure a PS5 in person at a store. Online is a gamble with the insanity of bots.

I don't blame Sony or MS for preorder madness. It happens every time.

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#8  Edited By deactivated-63d2876fd4204
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LMAO! Poor guy... (not really)

Both were a mess, but I was able to secure more Xbox preorders than PS5.

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#9 X_CAPCOM_X
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@Pedro: is it? I don't think daredevils is going to preorder an xbox

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I experienced multiple hours of frustration. Then I read a post that someone had just gotten through on BestBuy Canada so I tried ONE MORE TIME.

Ended up in a 5 min queue and SUCCESS!

Online retail just can't handle the simultaneous demand.

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@Pedro said:
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@Pedro: I wouldn't base your judgement upon your own experiences in general

Isn't that the very nature of this thread?

You were one of them who was calling out Sony for messing up pre-orders its time to call out your boss Microsoft like YouTube has done.

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@X_CAPCOM_X said:

@Pedro: is it? I don't think daredevils is going to preorder an xbox

You guess correctly .

I just find it funny how the other day lems were like, MS will never mess up on preorders.

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@daredevils2k said:
@X_CAPCOM_X said:

@Pedro: is it? I don't think daredevils is going to preorder an xbox

You guess correctly .

I just find it funny how the other day lems were like, MS will never mess up on preorders.

The only thing MS did better was tell you when and where you were going to be pissed off and frustrated. LMAO.

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#14  Edited By rrjim1
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Mine was as easy as a walk in the park. got the email at, Tue Sep 22 at 11:01 AM

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@SUD123456 said:
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@X_CAPCOM_X said:

@Pedro: is it? I don't think daredevils is going to preorder an xbox

You guess correctly .

I just find it funny how the other day lems were like, MS will never mess up on preorders.

The only thing MS did better was tell you when and where you were going to be pissed off and frustrated. LMAO.

Lmao , I can't stop laughing.

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#16 Dagubot
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Both Sony and Microsoft as well as retailers are to blame. Stop singling just one company out. In this case Microsoft handled it better because we at least knew a time and date unlike Sony just surprising everyone via Twitter that pre-orders are live and not even during the event

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#17 kingtito
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Can anyone explain why either company would be at blame for pre-order issues? I mean yeah Sony messed up with the surprise it's live but other than that what did either do? Are we talking the number of available units? I mean it's not like they're supposed to have an unlimited supply at launch.

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#18  Edited By Sevenizz
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I tried getting an XSX this morning through various sites. They all were slow, wouldn’t load, or flat out said unavailable when I got to check out. On a whim, I called a smaller local chain and they told me to come in person and that they had availability through that method - I guess they reserved some preorders that way. Went in and paid for it in full. Preorder confirmed for launch day pick up.

*whew*

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#19 enzyme36
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They were both pretty easy to get if you were near a PC and put a smidge of effort into it.

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#20 Pedro  Online
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@ProtossRushX said:

You were one of them who was calling out Sony for messing up pre-orders its time to call out your boss Microsoft like YouTube has done.

Sony stated pre-orders were going to be available on the Friday but it started on the Thursday. Pre-ordering online was going to be a challenge regardless of the company but at least one of the two companies kept to the schedule.

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#21  Edited By Sevenizz
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@enzyme36: Not necessarily. I was online a minute after 11am and was unsuccessful. Maybe the site I was on was bombarded, but it slowed me down from searching elsewhere and they were unavailable too when I got around to it.

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#22  Edited By lamprey263
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Last time I experienced this kind of mess on the Microsoft store website was when I got my XB1 on a Black Friday sale. I saw others at time complaining that it happens each year. That was several years ago.

I still stand by my original claim that a loyalty based advance pre-order system should have been used by both. Bother companies could set a metric threshold for an upper percentile of user activity to give advance pre-order access too, based on a balance of spending habits and tracked gameplay activity.

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#23 Eoten
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People actually watch this guy throw a hissy fit and whine about everything? Because that's all I've ever seen that guy do is piss and moan about everything.

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#24 enzyme36
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@enzyme36: Not necessarily. I was online a minute after 11am and was unsuccessful. Maybe the site I was on was bombarded, but it slowed me down from searching elsewhere and they were unavailable too.

Thats ruff... they put out on twitter that most retailers didnt end up going live 11 EST. IF you hung out a lil more you would of nabbed one. But I understand your frustration.

By easy to get, its more like it was possible for a human to get one. Thats about all you can ask for these days. IF an online order is up for more than 10 mins of availability and you are prepared... thats about the best you can hope for during these type of hyped releases.

When something is sold out in under a sec... thats what I call difficult to get.

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I was able to get 2 Series X’s preordered.

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@Sevenizz said:

I tried getting an XSX this morning through various sites. They all were slow, wouldn’t load, or flat out said unavailable when I got to check out. On a whim, I called a smaller local chain and they told me to come in person and that they had availability through that method - I guess they reserved some preorders that way. Went in and paid for it in full. Preorder confirmed for launch day pick up.

*whew*

In person pre orders may be something some of these retailers should focus on in the future to avoid bots and scalpers.

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#27  Edited By strategyfn
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I could have gotten a Series X 15 minutes after pre-orders going live. The only launch game I wanted though is Cyberpunk 2077 and I can get that on PS5. I also prefer Gran Turismo over Forza from what I played of Forza 2 horizon on 360.

Series X had me thinking though with how PS5 screwed the pre-order process and Bethesda addition. There were other factors as well. I wasn’t able to pre-order a PS5.

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Angry Joe just can't catch a break lol.

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#29 Sevenizz
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@strategyfn: ‘I could have gotten a Series X 15 minutes after pre-orders going live.’

You don’t know that unless your check out is confirmed. On three sites I got this far and was informed, at checkout, it was unavailable.

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@Pedro: ahhh, you’re falling into the camp that is blaming Sony for that?

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@daredevils2k: I wouldn't listen to the 2nd video if you paid me to.. that guy is a moron

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#32 Starshine_M2A2
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@daredevils2k: It doesn’t matter if Microsoft screwed up the preorders - Sony has already been eliminated as competition.

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#33  Edited By strategyfn
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@Sevenizz said:

@strategyfn: ‘I could have gotten a Series X 15 minutes after pre-orders going live.’

You don’t know that unless your check out is confirmed. On three sites I got this far and was informed, at checkout, it was unavailable.

I was on the checkout my cart and on the top it said in green “item in stock.” With the PS5 I made it to my cart but then it said on top “item out of stock.” But you could be right.

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@Pedro said:

I wasn't able to get a PS5 but was able to get a Xbox. I wonder which one was worse?🤔

You represent 0.000000000001% of the gaming industry just saying.

@ProtossRushX said:
@Pedro said:
@X_CAPCOM_X said:

@Pedro: I wouldn't base your judgement upon your own experiences in general

Isn't that the very nature of this thread?

You were one of them who was calling out Sony for messing up pre-orders its time to call out your boss Microsoft like YouTube has done.

You are asking to much of double face Pedro.🤣

He doesn't question his master he just question sony.

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The only thing MS did better was tell you when and where you were going to be pissed off and frustrated. LMAO.

Oh sony did that too,the only difference is MS threaten retailers about opening pre-orders before the pissing day, while sony say shit to retailers.

In both cases both screw up.

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#35 Pedro  Online
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@Ibacai: I will blame Sony for releasing earlier than they claim. The bottleneck is inevitable but the premature preordering isn't.

As far as MS is concerned, with all that server power you would think ordering would be a breeze. NOPE!😐

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I'll say what is said in the PS5 pre-order Joe thread, is he good again or bad, its hard to keep up these days.

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#37  Edited By speedytimsi
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@daredevils2k: that was expected. PS5 was the smoothest. You NEVER post date and time for preordering. Just effing drop it. Enough people will notice and spread the word or ended up like NVIDIA launch.

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#38 Chutebox
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@kingtito: im with you. It's not either companies fault.

After thinking about it, I like that retailers broke early because it actually gave people a chance against bots.

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I wish they would all do a virtual line or something :/ ah well.

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@Starshine_M2A2 said:

@daredevils2k: It doesn’t matter if Microsoft screwed up the preorders - Sony has already been eliminated as competition.

LOL poor guy, with all the losing MS did this gen, this guy already in delusional mode. It's okay man, we will just announce MS as the winner of next gen if that helps you sleep better at night.

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@daredevils2k: I already sleep like a baby knowing Microsoft is slowly dismantling one of the most hideously decrepit corporations in history.

I slept particularly well in 2011!

You, on the other hand, will never sleep again.

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@daredevils2k said:
@Starshine_M2A2 said:

@daredevils2k: It doesn’t matter if Microsoft screwed up the preorders - Sony has already been eliminated as competition.

LOL poor guy, with all the losing MS did this gen, this guy already in delusional mode. It's okay man, we will just announce MS as the winner of next gen if that helps you sleep better at night.

@Starshine_M2A2 said:

@daredevils2k: I already sleep like a baby knowing Microsoft is slowly dismantling one of the most hideously decrepit corporations in history.

I slept particularly well in 2011!

You, on the other hand, will never sleep again.

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@daredevils2k: I accept your surrender.

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@daredevils2k: I accept your surrender.

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@daredevils2k: "You would of thought MS could learn from Sony pre-order mistakes, but nope."

Sony's problem is that they had pre-orders start before people even knew they were coming. MS stuck to their pre-order timeline. Regardless, demand was greater than the supply. It sucks, sure, but hopefully a sign of an enthusiastic next generation.

And according to ReviewTechUSA, Sony's mistake turned out to be convenient to him because he had been notified by someone early about pre-orders going live and secured two early, and like he said again in this video, he had advantage of scalpers being ill prepared to eat up the pre-order supplies. Was the lesson to be learned to release them out of the blue when nobody was expecting them? Can't imagine those who couldn't get them would be any less disappointed.

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#46 Starshine_M2A2
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@daredevils2k: Nope, he can’t help you either. Try again.

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@lamprey263 said:

@daredevils2k: "You would of thought MS could learn from Sony pre-order mistakes, but nope."

Sony's problem is that they had pre-orders start before people even knew they were coming. MS stuck to their pre-order timeline. Regardless, demand was greater than the supply. It sucks, sure, but hopefully a sign of an enthusiastic next generation.

And according to ReviewTechUSA, Sony's mistake turned out to be convenient to him because he had been notified by someone early about pre-orders going live and secured two early, and like he said again in this video, he had advantage of scalpers being ill prepared to eat up the pre-order supplies. Was the lesson to be learned to release them out of the blue when nobody was expecting them? Can't imagine those who couldn't get them would be any less disappointed.

yah well MS problem is that bots bought up most of there pre orders :(

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its a problem right now with orders of any tech iteams. bots and scalping.

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#50 hardwenzen  Online
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It was so easy to get both version in Canada. It took hours for them to be sold out. Ain't nobody gives a damn about this thing in here. Its all about the PS5. If you disagree you're obviously frustrated because you were unnable to get a ps5.