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#1 -Damien-
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http://news.yahoo.com/xbox-one-reportedly-hit-production-woes-could-hard-164528077.html

 

I thought, I thought MS said it's language software issue

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#4 clone01
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Manufacturing yield wars.

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ahh Classic M$ pulling the savy "less units/higher desirability" scheme.

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#8 II_Seraphim_II
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well that sux. I hope MS gets their act together soon.
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#9 strawhatlupi
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will this lead to another RROD or just low supply of xbone unit?
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may cut its initial planned shipments of the console from 7 million to 6.2 million

That's still a big number

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#11 clone01
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ahh Classic M$ pulling the savy "less units/higher desirability" scheme.

tccavey2
That's really nothing new. The Wii, PS3, and PS2 were hard to find as well.
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[QUOTE="tccavey2"]

ahh Classic M$ pulling the savy "less units/higher desirability" scheme.

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That's really nothing new. The Wii, PS3, and PS2 were hard to find as well.

Hmm, this brings opportunity. For the 360 I was 3rd in line with a family member taking the 4th spot, I actually sold that 4th spot for $300 lol.
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http://news.yahoo.com/xbox-one-reportedly-hit-production-woes-could-hard-164528077.html

 

I thought, I thought MS said it's language software issue

-Damien-

lol language issues...

Germany but no Switzerland

Brazil but no Portugal

They could have taken 5min to try and find flaws in that excuse.... bad PR still owning them.

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#14 heretrix
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Holy shit manufacturing problems at launch?

That's never happened before.

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#15 clone01
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[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="tccavey2"]

ahh Classic M$ pulling the savy "less units/higher desirability" scheme.

Deevoshun
That's really nothing new. The Wii, PS3, and PS2 were hard to find as well.

Hmm, this brings opportunity. For the 360 I was 3rd in line with a family member taking the 4th spot, I actually sold that 4th spot for $300 lol.

Lol. Yeah. I've got a couple of preorders. May do me a little Ebay.
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having yield issues with Xbox One components and that it may cut its initial planned shipments of the console from 7 million to 6.2 million.

wait, wait, wait... does that read that Microsoft is trying to sell 6+ million consoles? By when!?

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Ms better get it together because the competition is a full $100 cheaper.
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having yield issues with Xbox One components and that it may cut its initial planned shipments of the console from 7 million to 6.2 million.

wait, wait, wait... does that read that Microsoft is trying to sell 6+ million consoles? By when!?

R3FURBISHED

Till the end of 2013

(Sony aims for 10million)

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[QUOTE="R3FURBISHED"]

having yield issues with Xbox One components and that it may cut its initial planned shipments of the console from 7 million to 6.2 million.

wait, wait, wait... does that read that Microsoft is trying to sell 6+ million consoles? By when!?

ManatuBeard

Till the end of 2013

(Sony aims for 10million)

Those numbers are MUCH larger than what I thought they would aim for.
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#20 Armoured_Mage
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maybe this is actually them moving the release date forward?

are there any places where the xbones are sold out? i got an email from a shop here in the uk that still has some left.

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http://news.yahoo.com/xbox-one-reportedly-hit-production-woes-could-hard-164528077.html

 

I thought, I thought MS said it's language software issue

-Damien-

 

TEAM CBOAT..

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[QUOTE="ManatuBeard"]

[QUOTE="R3FURBISHED"]

having yield issues with Xbox One components and that it may cut its initial planned shipments of the console from 7 million to 6.2 million.

wait, wait, wait... does that read that Microsoft is trying to sell 6+ million consoles? By when!?

R3FURBISHED

Till the end of 2013

(Sony aims for 10million)

Those numbers are MUCH larger than what I thought they would aim for.

They are expecting day one sales to be higher than Wii U in the whole first year! (for EACH console)

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#23 Couth_
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[QUOTE="ManatuBeard"]

[QUOTE="R3FURBISHED"]

having yield issues with Xbox One components and that it may cut its initial planned shipments of the console from 7 million to 6.2 million.

wait, wait, wait... does that read that Microsoft is trying to sell 6+ million consoles? By when!?

R3FURBISHED

Till the end of 2013

(Sony aims for 10million)

Those numbers are MUCH larger than what I thought they would aim for.

That's absurd. Historically consoles have sold less than a million at launch and 1-2 million their first holiday quarter. I think for the first time they may not sell out at launch. Ps3 didn't sell 10 million until it's 3rd year on the market, 360 didn't sell that much until it's 4th year, and those were numbers for the ENTIRE YEAR
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[QUOTE="R3FURBISHED"][QUOTE="ManatuBeard"]

Till the end of 2013

(Sony aims for 10million)

ManatuBeard

Those numbers are MUCH larger than what I thought they would aim for.

They are expecting day one sales to be higher than Wii U in the whole first year! (for EACH console)

I'm expecting both consoles to reach 100 million units sold in their lifetime, but 15+ million units in one and a half months? That sounds ridiculous, to me.

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[QUOTE="R3FURBISHED"][QUOTE="ManatuBeard"]

Till the end of 2013

(Sony aims for 10million)

Couth_

Those numbers are MUCH larger than what I thought they would aim for.

That's absurd. Historically consoles have sold less than a million at launch and 1-2 million their first holiday quarter. I think for the first time they may not sell out at launch. Ps3 didn't sell 10 million until it's 3rd year on the market, 360 didn't sell that much until it's 4th year, and those were numbers for the ENTIRE YEAR

Pre-orders in ALL launch countries are sold out for both consoles (launch day stock). Its not hard to believe that all stock will go on day one (and possibly the 2nd restocking will all be sold long before it arrives)

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I hope they still release this year before the holidays.

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#27 Couth_
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[QUOTE="Couth_"][QUOTE="R3FURBISHED"] Those numbers are MUCH larger than what I thought they would aim for.ManatuBeard

That's absurd. Historically consoles have sold less than a million at launch and 1-2 million their first holiday quarter. I think for the first time they may not sell out at launch. Ps3 didn't sell 10 million until it's 3rd year on the market, 360 didn't sell that much until it's 4th year, and those were numbers for the ENTIRE YEAR

Pre-orders in ALL launch countries are sold out for both consoles (launch day stock). Its not hard to believe that all stock will go on day one (and possibly the 2nd restocking will all be sold long before it arrives)

Pre orders are at a million for PS4 and much less for xb0ne. PS4 will not sell 10 million units in one month it's just not going to happen. Much less in one day. That's silly

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[QUOTE="ManatuBeard"]

[QUOTE="Couth_"] That's absurd. Historically consoles have sold less than a million at launch and 1-2 million their first holiday quarter. I think for the first time they may not sell out at launch. Ps3 didn't sell 10 million until it's 3rd year on the market, 360 didn't sell that much until it's 4th year, and those were numbers for the ENTIRE YEARCouth_

Pre-orders in ALL launch countries are sold out for both consoles (launch day stock). Its not hard to believe that all stock will go on day one (and possibly the 2nd restocking will all be sold long before it arrives)

Pre orders are at a million for PS4 and much less for xb0ne. PS4 will not sell 10 million units in one month it's just not going to happen.

Not 10 millions... more than Wii U (3 million +/- 1st year)

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Apparently not. https://mobile.twitter.com/majornelson/status/372424213128159232?p=v
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#31 tormentos
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People the 6 million number is not for launch and more for the first year,so yeah that number is low.

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may cut its initial planned shipments of the console from 7 million to 6.2 millionedidili

That's still a big number

 

Yep there will be plenty available on the shelfs. :D

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#33 Couth_
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[QUOTE="Couth_"][QUOTE="ManatuBeard"]

Pre-orders in ALL launch countries are sold out for both consoles (launch day stock). Its not hard to believe that all stock will go on day one (and possibly the 2nd restocking will all be sold long before it arrives)

ManatuBeard

Pre orders are at a million for PS4 and much less for xb0ne. PS4 will not sell 10 million units in one month it's just not going to happen.

Not 10 millions... more than Wii U (3 million +/- 1st year)

Why did you even reply to me then. My comment was in regards to MS 6+ million forecast and Sony expected 10+ million on launch day...
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Apparently not. https://mobile.twitter.com/majornelson/status/372424213128159232?p=vfreedomfreak

lol

MS denies = Confirmation

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#35 tormentos
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Apparently not. https://mobile.twitter.com/majornelson/status/372424213128159232?p=vfreedomfreak

Major Nelsol

That story is completely untrue..

 

The xbox one delayed in 8 countries and MS confirm yesterday that the chip was hard to make....:lol:

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[QUOTE="ManatuBeard"]

[QUOTE="Couth_"]Pre orders are at a million for PS4 and much less for xb0ne. PS4 will not sell 10 million units in one month it's just not going to happen.Couth_

Not 10 millions... more than Wii U (3 million +/- 1st year)

Why did you even reply to me then. My comment was in regards to MS 6+ million forecast and Sony expected 10+ million on launch day...

Not launch day, thats their expectation for this year (till 31 december)

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Yeah, we should go with China's Economic Daily News. That's bad news, so a win for us fine gamers.
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#38 Couth_
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[QUOTE="Couth_"][QUOTE="ManatuBeard"]

Not 10 millions... more than Wii U (3 million +/- 1st year)

ManatuBeard

Why did you even reply to me then. My comment was in regards to MS 6+ million forecast and Sony expected 10+ million on launch day...

Not launch day, thats their expectation for this year (till 31 december)

Even then it's still a lot. 10 million is an entire years worth of sales.
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Yeah, we should go with China's Economic Daily News. That's bad news, so a win for us fine gamers.freedomfreak

It could be true, the consoles are most likely made in China.

____

[QUOTE="freedomfreak"]Apparently not. https://mobile.twitter.com/majornelson/status/372424213128159232?p=vtormentos

Major Nelsol

That story is completely untrue..

 

The xbox one delayed in 8 countries and MS confirm yesterday that the chip was hard to make....:lol:

Thats the first official word from Microsoft as far as I see it.

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It could be true, the consoles are most likely made in China.R3FURBISHED
Could very well be. I just find it funny how quick people are to dismiss an official statement. True or not.
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may cut its initial planned shipments of the console from 7 million to 6.2 millionedidili

That's still a big number

Not really.

There still will be xbox ones sitting on store shelves and will be easily availible online. So them shipping 6.2 or 100 million it doesnt matter because it wont sell through, or be out of stock anywhere longer than a couple days.

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[QUOTE="ManatuBeard"]

[QUOTE="Couth_"] Why did you even reply to me then. My comment was in regards to MS 6+ million forecast and Sony expected 10+ million on launch day...Couth_

Not launch day, thats their expectation for this year (till 31 december)

Even then it's still a lot. 10 million is an entire years worth of sales.

I dont know...

I was working in a huge electronics shop inside a shopping center when the PS2 was released. All units were gone in 1 hour (about 300units). It took 2 weeks to get restock, and everyday we had LOADS of people coming in asking for it. If we had 1k units, we would have sold them all in that hour.

With the growth of console gaming, i have no doubt that each shop will manage to sell 2k units in the 1st day, not counting pre-orders (the big shops).

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I dont know...

I was working in a huge electronics shop inside a shopping center when the PS2 was released. All units were gone in 1 hour (about 300units). It took 2 weeks to get restock, and everyday we had LOADS of people coming in asking for it. If we had 1k units, we would have sold them all in that hour.

With the growth of console gaming, i have no doubt that each shop will manage to sell 2k units in the 1st day, not counting pre-orders (the big shops).

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PS2 only sold about 1.4 million it's first quarter out. You had so many people checking your store, because every other store was sold out as well. If every store had 1k units, there would not have been as many people looking around. The difference between 1.4 million and 10+ million. Goes without saying it's huge
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so lowers forecast since they planned to produce 7 million and now its 6.2 million... hey, if they can sell 6.2 million before they can replenish the supply then good for them either way
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They can ship as many as they want. Doesn't mean they will sell.

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They can ship as many as they want. Doesn't mean they will sell.

NathanDrakeSwag

It's a sale for them if the distributor bought them. I never understood this argument.

 

Manufacturing yield wars.

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lol

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"The Xbox One features an eight-core 1.6GHz processor, 8GB of RAM, an 800MHz graphics processor"

That should be 853MHz GPU.

So it's got a 1.6 GHz CPU? PS4 is said to be 2 GHz.

Interesting, but then again they got the GPU number wrong.

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[QUOTE="ManatuBeard"]I dont know...

I was working in a huge electronics shop inside a shopping center when the PS2 was released. All units were gone in 1 hour (about 300units). It took 2 weeks to get restock, and everyday we had LOADS of people coming in asking for it. If we had 1k units, we would have sold them all in that hour.

With the growth of console gaming, i have no doubt that each shop will manage to sell 2k units in the 1st day, not counting pre-orders (the big shops).

Couth_

PS2 only sold about 1.4 million it's first quarter out. You had so many people checking your store, because every other store was sold out as well. If every store had 1k units, there would not have been as many people looking around. The difference between 1.4 million and 10+ million. Goes without saying it's huge

 

The PS2 sold like 1 million on launch dude,i am sure they sold more than 1.4 Million in 1 quarter and sold 10 million by its first year,and 20 million by month 19 of lifecycle.

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