Xbox One backward compatibility is a carrot in certain instances

I know how everyone and their mother who hates the Xbox One thinks backward compatibility is worthless and yada, yada, yada, but there is something to consider that most probably have not.

I was looking to buy Resident Evil Code: Veronica HD and I was going to buy it on either the 360 or the PlayStation 3 depending on price, well it's $19.99 on both systems. I own a PlayStation 4 and Xbox One as you're all probably aware and something dawned on me before deciding to checkout...

If I buy this game on the PlayStation 3 that's it, that will be its home and it will be forever tied to that console. If I buy it on the Xbox 360, there is a possibility down the line it will be added to the Xbox One backward compatibility and further help consolidate my library on one system.

This greatly increases the viability of this feature and console as far as I'm concerned, has anyone else in a similar situation actually considered or thought of this yet for last generation digital games and the viability of what is the best platform to buy them on given the reality of backward compatibility?

Backwards compatiblity is defenitely a plus, I was just playing nba jam , not for long, only did a couple of matches. But it's so nice that I can.

I still don't get why people think that having more options to play is still a bad thing. Now my kid can play one of his favorite franchises ( Gears of War ) with his own profile in the X1 thanks to BC.

Wait, so you're saying being backwards compatible is a good thing for the Xbox One?

WE MUST TELL EVERYONE

Is the game cheaper on last gen?

And as dope as it is, I doubt publishers will add games that are on both generations, and quite similar, on BC for this case alone.

For retail games no. Any last gen game that's on 360 or PS3 I would buy for the PS3 because it's still in my living room next to PS4, XBox One and Wii U. The 360 got banished to the bedroom along with the Wii. For a digital only game it would actually be a good point but I doubt I would just trust in it being added to the BC list one day. If they announced that it will be BC right away I can see myself getting it for the 360 to have it on my One.

It's not available on current gen, it's got like 9,000 votes on the Xbox One backward compatibility feedback site though.

The game itself is not the point though, it's the viability of buying it on a dead end platform that's being shelved versus buying it on another dead end platform that will possibly extend onto its replacement platform.

I get it...BC is good for some ppl.

I personally have no use for it. I don't think I've seen anyone say BC is "worthless".....but useless to some? Sure.

I got RE: CV HD for $4ish during a PSN flash sale a year or two back.

That made biting the bullet easy although I already own the game on various other platforms (DC, PS2, GC). As a matter of fact, all the RE's were on sale uber cheap ($1-$4).

Regarding the hope of some limited support, I already went through that last gen with the 360's 50% BC. I'm not going to pine away and hope for support that never came for my library (especially to preserve the new machines/HDD space for that gen's games). I will but the best deal instead.

I guess I'd be regurgitating bullet points from E3 2015 as well if Halo didn't chart in December.

Cancer has entered the fold.

You baffle me with your threads and comments.

You have a problem with Star Ocean 5 looking "last gen", but will shill the feature of the Bone being able to play "last gen" games?

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It felt really good to go back and play games like Doom and Doom II, and Wolfenstein, and Toy Soldiers. I'm a big get fan of the XBLA games but I hope they do a good job getting the premium titles. Really wanna see Catherine make it. Glad I get a chance to play South Park Stick of Truth, will finally play soon as soon as my hands aren't full.

I hope they pull off some OG Xbox games, like Panzer Dragoon Orta would totally make my day.

I'm waiting for them to solve the multi-disc issue. As soon as they do and get the Mass Effect Trilogy on there, i'm going to play it through xbox one. Never played the whole series.

For me games are games. If I could play last gen games on current consoles at no extra charge, that console with this option deserve all the praise. The beauty with this form of backward compatibility really shines with a membership to Xbox Live Gold. Gold offers Xbox 360 GwG games which are playable on the Xbox One at no extra charge. So you don't even need a Xbox 360 to play these Xbox 360 GwG games because Xbox One allows you to access them all. This means I don't even have to worry about storage space for my Xbox 360 since I can attach any external hard drive with no space limit on my Xbox One and I'm set.

Both the PS3 and PS4 still lack the option to use external hard drives with no space limit for games. I believe this is just one of many reasons they can't offer any form of backward compatibility. Actually I mean if they did update the PS4 with backward compatibility, they will run into issues because they lack support for external hard drives for games, since I believe this instant game collection would take up a lot of space. I know it does with my Xbox One but I don't have to worry about space because my 5tb external hard drive got it all covered for now, as I could attach a hard drive with no space limit easily any time. Sure you could just upgrade to a 2tb internal hard drive but guess what, 2tb is the limit. Once that's filled up, you have to delete delete delete, install install install, delete delete delete, re-install re-install, swap swap swap, man what a pain, why can't you use plug an external hard drive and be set.

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X1's BC will NEVER be 100% either. I kept my 360 so its a non issue.

well this is just sad

If you care about BC so much, you owe yourself to get a PC for $400 which can let you play all games from the PS3 era below easily at max settings.

Its a hell of a lot better than Sonys implementation. Forcing you to rebuy the game is despicable.

Even with BC xbox still cant win lol

My 360 is pretty beat up from all my moving around the hemisphere and on its last leg so just let my little cousins play it til it finally dies.

But there are few games I would like to try or replay. Love that I got Stick of Truth brand new for super cheap and am laughing my ass off, playing it for the first time.

@nyadc: I come not as a harbinger of death, but of woe.

@wolverine4262: Really? I didn't know Sony threw the kill switch on every PS3 ever made. All of the forcing. Many evil. Wow.

I love having the option of BC... its a great feature to have.

And it makes me laugh reading all the PS fan boys saying what a waste of time it is... it'd be a completely different story if it was the other way around but whatevs.

@hrt_rulz01: Yeah, same goes for if PS4 had it and the Xbone didn't. Round and round the circle we go. Makes reading this forum more lulz worthy.

More on topic, I finally beat Gears Ultimate and will look to play the other games, I still have the discs, do they require installs still? I'm quite low on HD space.

No one said it was worthless. It's just not going be much of factor in choosing a PS4 or Xbox One for most people. Hopefully next generation both Sony and Microsoft stick a similar architecture so they can both have actual backwards compatibility as opposed to emulation and streaming.

I can understand BC is a must for these current-gen consoles but how hard it is for you to not use your last-gen consoles? PS3/Xbox 360 are both 100% BC meaning you get to play all last-gen games and even better, Xbox 360 can still play some original Xbox games and that right there, is way better then Xbox One BC and really, Xbox One BC should have all Xbox 360 games, not just random games.

In short, this doesn't bother me cause I still got my PS3/Xbox 360 hook up to another HDTV for that so I can still go buy very cheap last-gen games and no need to use PS Now.

I don't recall Sony EVER forcing me to buy a game I already own, thought it was a conscious choice.

Sorry but until I at least see Tales of Vesperia, Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey then this BC is utterly worthless TO ME in general.

Say what you want about the PS2 emulation, they at least have given me games I want to play (hell I didn't own any of the games on the store prior)

If PS3 had 100% BC with PS2 and PS1 when it launched and it was a NON argument in SW thus xbox fanboys getting away with saying "PS3 has no games", how in the world do you guys expect anyone to take you guys seriously with xbox one's hack incomplete and broken BC with only 360?

This thread is dumb. BC was a non factor in arguments last gen for systems with much better libraries (PS2+PS1) so why are xbox fans grasping at straws to make BC a thing just because their console now has a half working solution where as PS4 doesn't?

Desperation is all this is. If PS3's full 1000+ library of BC games didn't have an impact in arguments here then xbox ones sorry attempt at with the BC it has now surely doesn't.

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Lems need to accept defeat already. Even with BC and "the best lineup in history" gamers have still rejected the xbone.

Backwards compatability is a great thing when executed properly, but Xbox one BC is not a good example and is pretty close to worthless outside of an E3 presentation or commercial.

No because BC doesn't mean a thing to me with these new systems, if I want to play CVX then I'll buy it on the system I prefer and that's the PS brand.

Hell I own it on DC and GC already so this in general means little to me.

@hrt_rulz01: I think that if you guys had as many games as the PS4 does, you wouldn't be drumming the feature as much as you do.

PS4s killer feature is having a massive lineup of games. If I had to choose between that or BC, well, clearly millions of people have come to the same conclusion as I would.

You and you lem friends can try to pin the tail on the donkey all you like, but it's 2016 and you're still droning away over the same shit. You're not nearly as clever as you give yourselves credit for. In fact, it's looking rather tired.

Yes, they require install, when you insert the disc the console doesn´t read from it, it only uses the disc as means to verify you have it, the actual game is downloaded and installed in the HDD. You will need to insert the disc every time you want to play or the installed game won´t work.

carrot?

I prefer other veggies.

Sounds to me lemmings simply have no games...ironic isn't it?

To be fair, it was much more difficult to emulate the Original Xbox on the Xbox 360. From what I gather, the only problem MS is facing with the Xbox One is getting publishers to agree to have their game join the list.

Yup, you've pretty much summed up the lems with this sentence. They are desperate hypocrites.

@NathanDrakeSwag: Gamers haven't rejected the Xbox One. Just because it didn't sell as well as the PS4, doesn't mean it is rejected. In December the Xbox One sold over a million.

Considering the disgusting lack of quality exclusive titles for both platforms, backwards compatibility is a massive plus.

In a country where Donald Trump may be elected President.

BC is there to do the same job as Indie games, which is be filler crap that when added on to a console, gives the illusion that the console as a whole looks better with more features or games. In reality, all this stuff is there to distract console gamers from one simple fact. They now get about two exclusives a year, lol.

When this is the case, a company needs to add on as much shit as they can, and sing about it.

It's a funny thing on consoles. The companies like MS and Sony make a big deal out of redundant shit that just happens on the PC. The UI and every little feature that should be obvious, BC, Indies and HD remasters lol, or as we call it, 'turning the settings up'.

BC is just a tiny piece of the 'non argument' parts of the consoles.

Well, I feel ya, but to be fair, no where in my post did I indicate that I didn't understand the technical reasons behind the BC on these machines, only that I've been through this before.

That said, the emulation on the Xbone isn't rock solid (which means some games and code present issues) and furthermore, I don't have the confidence that 100% of the gaming publishers (many still aren't on board) are going to change their minds. Furthermore, many publishers that have signed up, have not signed up 100% of their 360 games. The 360 also had many more games than the original Xbox 1. As a matter of fact, just like the 360 BC effort, I think the resources/effort/R&D to do Xbone BC will be silently killed (like it was on 360) once the Xbone's current gen library is good/great. Right now, it's something to talk about, but there is no way I'm once again going to fall for thinking were are going to get a massive BC push.

That was a brief explanation, but I've already discussed in great detail and considered this entire issue when the BC initiative was announced back at E3 2015. It's a paper tiger with some benefits, but I have a huge 360 collection and I know it's not all going to be BC and I also know some of these games won't work as well on Xbone as they do on 360....which I already own a few 360s so that's fine for me.

As I said though, I prefer not to waste HDD space on my Xbone and waste the Xbone machine to play last gen games any rate.

@Shewgenja: And the PS4 sold better in that country where Donald Trump may be elected president...

I can't form an opinion on it just yet, we have to see how it turns out. It's early days and the problems we see now may or may not persist. So I understand your position. My position is that I have a 360 E and have no plans on playing anything 360 on the Xbox One.

I don't think the it will silently flatline like the past, if only because there is much more continued interest in the Xbox 360 than before. But again we'll see. I'm not convinced by consoles this gen, two years in and we're still talking about 'when they take off', right now I don't see them as good enough to convince people that last gen is old and redundant. Hasn't convinced me yet, once.

I get you on not wasting HDD space.

Massive line-up of games? Oh you mean the line-up of mostly small indie games that nobody will ever play... Yeah ok then.

But anyway, I stand by what I said in that if PS4 had BC, you'd be praising it no end. And I'm not sure what you actually mean when you say that "You're not nearly as clever as you give yourselves credit for. In fact, it's looking rather tired"? When was I trying to be clever? I'm just stating my opinion.

@primorandomguy: Water is wet.

@hrt_rulz01: You know, the thing is, you're wrong. It is a fact that the PS4 has more retail releases than the Bone. This hyperbole about the PS4s game lineup is going to fall apart on you. The XBONE simply can't afford to have any more games delay into 2017, the situation is so bad.

As for BC? You're free to say that, but the PS3 didn't have anywhere in the same galaxy the amount of reliability issues that the 360 had. On top of that, if BC really was such a crucial feature for consoles, the original PS3 would have taken off a whole lot stronger than it did. If you really want to take this argument in a circle, allow me to invite you to the year 2006. Spoiler alert: Full BC has been done before, not limited. You Lems happened to already torpedo a console that had this feature.

So, here we are. January of 2016. You still don't have shit to talk about, so you are milking a talking point dry. Is it any wonder the Bone is getting killed?