Xbox has the best library now?

[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="IbukiNinja"][QUOTE="Verge_6"]

My, you ARE on a high-horse, aren't you? IS this really how you debate? By repeatedly saying 'my view is the right one, no exceptions. Anyone who disagrees with me is in denial'? If you were logical, you would see things from sides of the debate. You are doing anything but.

IbukiNinja

My horse was shot long ago. I'm not here to say my is the only way, but I do know what I say on this subject matter is not opinions and theories. I'm giving you facts on why NGS is exclusive. That is all. This why I'm so firm on this discussion.

You THINK those facts alone make NGS an exclusive. You say your horse was shot long ago, yet you make statements like this? If anything, you're still on your saddle.

Then what is an exclusive? define it for me please.

A game that has its own levels, characters, situations, items, etc. and can only be played on a certain system.

And don't even bother saying 'Sigma has ALL of those'. No. They comprise a minority of the game, with the majority beingfrom the very game one can play on the original Xbox.Again, if you say that those make it an exclusive, then we can also consider GTAIV an exclusive.

[QUOTE="Kestastrophe"][QUOTE="IbukiNinja"][QUOTE="Jandurin"]

:lol:

RE4: Wii has an exclusive control scheme that drastically alters the way the game is played.

Exclusive? I think not.

RRR- not exclusive.

Sigma - Nay.

IbukiNinja

I heard it all. I understand there is two ways to look at it. System Wars or Logically. If you follow Casey idea then it's SW. If you follow mines it's logical.

So anyone that does not agree with you is written off as fanboy, however you are poignant in your self proclamation of a logical argument? That pretty much sums up this thread.

Fanboy? hmmm, no I never mention anything about fanboy. How did you assume that?

You are correct. I assumed that SW was used as a synonym for fanboy logic. Please clarify on this.......

[QUOTE="IbukiNinja"]

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="IbukiNinja"]That is why I told you to come back and stay on this one.Jandurin

Why? Common knowledge.

And, I suppose that would make Bully a Wii "generation exclusive". That's too messy.

Actually, no. People don't know about the new engine, gameplay, and everything I listed. When I bought NGS, I remember the guy at Best Buy said It's the same game in HD. Sadly, he was partially wrong. Also, I don't want to get into this x exclusive ( x = timed, generation, console, etc). I think there no such things.

Final Fantasy 3 - upgraded visuals, new dungeon, and something else new. Exclusive to the DS?

Also, I don't want to get into this x exclusive ( x = timed, generation, console, etc). I think there no such things.

IbukiNinja

You don't believe that there are console exclusives?

A game that has its own levels, characters, situations, items, etc. and can only be played on a certain system.

And don't even bother saying 'Sigma has ALL of those'. No. They comprise a minority of the game, with the majority beingfrom the very game one can play on the original Xbox.Again, if you say that those make it an exclusive, then we can also consider GTAIV an exclusive.

Verge_6

No need to argue since you told me no need to bother. lol, and who is on that high horse?

[QUOTE="IbukiNinja"]

Also, I don't want to get into this x exclusive ( x = timed, generation, console, etc). I think there no such things.

Kestastrophe

You don't believe that there are console exclusives?

oh...can we not start that?

[QUOTE="IbukiNinja"]

Also, I don't want to get into this x exclusive ( x = timed, generation, console, etc). I think there no such things.

Kestastrophe

You don't believe that there are console exclusives?

Well, to be honest no. I feel like you purposely take away factors that doesn't make it exclusive in the first place. It's like saying birds are the only animals that can fly, but we know insects can. Yet, you exclude them to prove your case.

Final Fantasy 3 - upgraded visuals, new dungeon, and something else new. Exclusive to the DS?

Jandurin

I believe FF3 is exclusive to the DS

I always here that hands down Xbox360 library is the best. Anyone willing to make a list of this great games that no other system can play?

IbukiNinja

Lol, how about you compile the list?

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]

A game that has its own levels, characters, situations, items, etc. and can only be played on a certain system.

And don't even bother saying 'Sigma has ALL of those'. No. They comprise a minority of the game, with the majority beingfrom the very game one can play on the original Xbox.Again, if you say that those make it an exclusive, then we can also consider GTAIV an exclusive.

IbukiNinja

No need to argue since you told me no need to bother. lol, and who is on that high horse?

You. I said not to bother making that statement, as it is NOT a viable reason for a game to be an exclusive. If it was, the 360 would be getting many more'exclusives' (by your definition). And not just the 360, but other platforms like the DS.However, you being yourself, I knew you were going to use just that. If we went by your definition of what makes a game an exclusive, this entire board would constantly be in a state fo debate over what game was actually an exclusive.

[QUOTE="musicalmac"][QUOTE="IbukiNinja"]

[QUOTE="musicalmac"]You could do it yourself, you know. :|IbukiNinja

Actually, I can't. I don't have a 360.

I can't say what is great because someone else says so; therefore, I can't say it has the best library. I want some proof that the Xbox360 library is the best right now. A list is all I'm asking for...

Well since what I may consider great you may not, its no need in compiling a list of games that you may not find to be great. Google, "Xbox 360 Library of Games." Enjoy... :shock:

[QUOTE="Jandurin"]

Final Fantasy 3 - upgraded visuals, new dungeon, and something else new. Exclusive to the DS?

IbukiNinja

I believe FF3 is exclusive to the DS

So you will ALSO believe GTA IV is exclusive to the 360. Thanks for clearing that up.

[QUOTE="IbukiNinja"][QUOTE="Jandurin"]

Final Fantasy 3 - upgraded visuals, new dungeon, and something else new. Exclusive to the DS?

Verge_6

I believe FF3 is exclusive to the DS

So you will ALSO believe GTA IV is exclusive to the 360. Thanks for clearing that up.

Also that Metal Gear: Substance for the Xbox was also an Exclusive.... :shock:

[QUOTE="IbukiNinja"][QUOTE="Jandurin"]

Final Fantasy 3 - upgraded visuals, new dungeon, and something else new. Exclusive to the DS?

Verge_6

I believe FF3 is exclusive to the DS

So you will ALSO believe GTA IV is exclusive to the 360. Thanks for clearing that up.

No, I don't think it's exclusive. Exclusive content you will pay for by Micro-transactions doesn't warrantGTAIV exclusive to Xbox360. What about the people will not buy the content?

[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="IbukiNinja"][QUOTE="Jandurin"]

Final Fantasy 3 - upgraded visuals, new dungeon, and something else new. Exclusive to the DS?

Magical_Zebra

I believe FF3 is exclusive to the DS

So you will ALSO believe GTA IV is exclusive to the 360. Thanks for clearing that up.

Also that Metal Gear: Substance for the Xbox was also an Exclusive.... :shock:

Substance was on PS2...

[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="IbukiNinja"][QUOTE="Jandurin"]

Final Fantasy 3 - upgraded visuals, new dungeon, and something else new. Exclusive to the DS?

IbukiNinja

I believe FF3 is exclusive to the DS

So you will ALSO believe GTA IV is exclusive to the 360. Thanks for clearing that up.

No, I don't think it's exclusive. Exclusive content you will pay for by Micro-transactions doesn't warrantGTAIV exclusive to Xbox360. What about the people will not buy the content?

Link to where you will have to pay for it?

And now you think that a version of a game with extra content ISN'T exclusive because you might have to pay for it? My, you sure do flip-flop and add alot of 'rules'. You're idea of an exclusive is needlessly complicated.

[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="IbukiNinja"][QUOTE="Jandurin"]

Final Fantasy 3 - upgraded visuals, new dungeon, and something else new. Exclusive to the DS?

IbukiNinja

I believe FF3 is exclusive to the DS

So you will ALSO believe GTA IV is exclusive to the 360. Thanks for clearing that up.

No, I don't think it's exclusive. Exclusive content you will pay for by Micro-transactions doesn't warrantGTAIV exclusive to Xbox360. What about the people will not buy the content?

Then according to your logic, they won't have teh exclusive. :shock:

Link to where you will have to pay for it?

Verge_6

I have no proof what-so-ever on the matter. You got me, but I can see myself getting youback by it coming true. No way M$ pay money for exclusive content and think they going to give it to you for free?

[QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"][QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="IbukiNinja"][QUOTE="Jandurin"]

Final Fantasy 3 - upgraded visuals, new dungeon, and something else new. Exclusive to the DS?

IbukiNinja

I believe FF3 is exclusive to the DS

So you will ALSO believe GTA IV is exclusive to the 360. Thanks for clearing that up.

Also that Metal Gear: Substance for the Xbox was also an Exclusive.... :shock:

Substance was on PS2...

Know what you speak of before you hit submit. Metal Gear: Substance Xbox...

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]

Link to where you will have to pay for it?

IbukiNinja

I have no proof what-so-ever on the matter. You got me, but I can see myself getting youback by it coming true. No way M$ pay money for exclusive content and think they going to give it to you for free?

So you are riding on assumptions.

And again, now you think that a version of a game with extra content ISN'T exclusive because you might have to pay for it? My, you sure do flip-flop and add alot of 'rules'. You're idea of an exclusive is needlessly complicated.

Know what you speak of before you hit submit. Metal Gear: Substance Xbox...

Magical_Zebra

lol? joke posting? do you not see it says on PC and PS2?

Know what you speak of before you hit submit. Metal Gear: Substance Xbox...

Magical_Zebra

Also on PS2

[QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"]

Know what you speak of before you hit submit. Metal Gear: Substance Xbox...

IbukiNinja

lol? joke posting? do you not see it says on PC and PS2?

Are you serious? Did you even click the link? Dude its an Xbox game...I have the damn game... :shock:

[QUOTE="IbukiNinja"][QUOTE="Verge_6"]

Link to where you will have to pay for it?

Verge_6

I have no proof what-so-ever on the matter. You got me, but I can see myself getting youback by it coming true. No way M$ pay money for exclusive content and think they going to give it to you for free?

So you are riding on assumptions.

And again, now you think that a version of a game with extra content ISN'T exclusive because you might have to pay for it? My, you sure do flip-flop and add alot of 'rules'. You're idea of an exclusive is needlessly complicated.

No, man no. Listen, please. Stop making this harder then what it is. I don't consider NGS is exclusive ONLY because is has exclusive content. I gave you other factors why it is. You can continue to ignore those facts, but for me they hold true.

[QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"]

Know what you speak of before you hit submit. Metal Gear: Substance Xbox...

Kestastrophe

Also on PS2

Never said it wasnt... :shock:

[QUOTE="IbukiNinja"][QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"]

Know what you speak of before you hit submit. Metal Gear: Substance Xbox...

Magical_Zebra

lol? joke posting? do you not see it says on PC and PS2?

Are you serious? Did you even click the link? Dude its an Xbox game...I have the damn game... :shock:

...you...are...serious?

[QUOTE="Kestastrophe"][QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"]

Know what you speak of before you hit submit. Metal Gear: Substance Xbox...

Magical_Zebra

Also on PS2

Never said it wasnt... :shock:

I wasn't being "matter of fact", I was trying to help you out. Sorry.

[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="IbukiNinja"][QUOTE="Verge_6"]

Link to where you will have to pay for it?

IbukiNinja

I have no proof what-so-ever on the matter. You got me, but I can see myself getting youback by it coming true. No way M$ pay money for exclusive content and think they going to give it to you for free?

So you are riding on assumptions.

And again, now you think that a version of a game with extra content ISN'T exclusive because you might have to pay for it? My, you sure do flip-flop and add alot of 'rules'. You're idea of an exclusive is needlessly complicated.

No, man no. Listen, please. Stop making this harder then what it is. I don't consider NGS is exclusive ONLY because is has exclusive content. I gave you other factors why it is. You can continue to ignore those facts, but for me they hold true.

Oh ok, so we live in your world. Gotcha. :|

[QUOTE="Kestastrophe"][QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"]

Know what you speak of before you hit submit. Metal Gear: Substance Xbox...

Magical_Zebra

Also on PS2

Never said it wasnt... :shock:

yes you did....You said Substance was exclusive to the Xbox. lol

[QUOTE="ginglejangle"]best next gen libary.CaseyWegner

it's current gen now. next gen isn't for a long time.

No. It is still next gen until we get details on the next systems.

[QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"][QUOTE="Kestastrophe"][QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"]

Know what you speak of before you hit submit. Metal Gear: Substance Xbox...

Kestastrophe

Also on PS2

Never said it wasnt... :shock:

I wasn't being "matter of fact", I was trying to help you out. Sorry.

Um how are you helipng me out. Im aware it came out for the PS2 and Xbox. He obviously doesnt know that the Xbox had a Metal Gear game...

Um how are you helipng me out. Im aware it came out for the PS2 and Xbox. He obviously doesnt know that the Xbox had a Metal Gear game...Magical_Zebra

See, his point is, Sigma is exclusive because it's the only Sigma in existence.

If your substance exists in more than one place with the same exact game and name then following his rules, faulty as they may be, it would then not be exclusive.

[QUOTE="Kestastrophe"][QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"][QUOTE="Kestastrophe"][QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"]

Know what you speak of before you hit submit. Metal Gear: Substance Xbox...

Magical_Zebra

Also on PS2

Never said it wasnt... :shock:

I wasn't being "matter of fact", I was trying to help you out. Sorry.

Um how are you helipng me out. Im aware it came out for the PS2 and Xbox. He obviously doesnt know that the Xbox had a Metal Gear game...

What!? I knew MGS2: Substancewas multiplat. You said it was exclusive. read your comments.

[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="IbukiNinja"][QUOTE="Verge_6"]

Link to where you will have to pay for it?

IbukiNinja

I have no proof what-so-ever on the matter. You got me, but I can see myself getting youback by it coming true. No way M$ pay money for exclusive content and think they going to give it to you for free?

So you are riding on assumptions.

And again, now you think that a version of a game with extra content ISN'T exclusive because you might have to pay for it? My, you sure do flip-flop and add alot of 'rules'. You're idea of an exclusive is needlessly complicated.

No, man no. Listen, please. Stop making this harder then what it is. I don't consider NGS is exclusive ONLY because is has exclusive content. I gave you other factors why it is. You can continue to ignore those facts, but for me they hold true.

So, the fact it has a different name and because a game magazine (which, again, probably had the name 'Playstation' in its name) says it was are the key reasons. Gotcha.

What!? I knew MGS2: Substancewas multiplat. You said it was exclusive. read your comments.

IbukiNinja

He's using your logic.

[QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"][QUOTE="Kestastrophe"][QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"]

Know what you speak of before you hit submit. Metal Gear: Substance Xbox...

IbukiNinja

Also on PS2

Never said it wasnt... :shock:

yes you did....You said Substance was exclusive to the Xbox. lol

I asked if it meant Substance was exclusive to the Xbox...dont back pedal now.... :shock:

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="ginglejangle"]best next gen libary.wmc540

it's current gen now. next gen isn't for a long time.

No. It is still next gen until we get details on the next systems.

no. :|

[QUOTE="IbukiNinja"]What!? I knew MGS2: Substancewas multiplat. You said it was exclusive. read your comments.

Verge_6

He's using your logic.

How is that my logic?

[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="IbukiNinja"]What!? I knew MGS2: Substancewas multiplat. You said it was exclusive. read your comments.

IbukiNinja

He's using your logic.

How is that my logic?

[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="IbukiNinja"][QUOTE="Jandurin"]

Final Fantasy 3 - upgraded visuals, new dungeon, and something else new. Exclusive to the DS?

Magical_Zebra

I believe FF3 is exclusive to the DS

So you will ALSO believe GTA IV is exclusive to the 360. Thanks for clearing that up.

Also that Metal Gear: Substance for the Xbox was also an Exclusive.... :shock:

This look familliar?

This look familliar? Magical_Zebra

[QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"][QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="IbukiNinja"][QUOTE="Jandurin"]

Final Fantasy 3 - upgraded visuals, new dungeon, and something else new. Exclusive to the DS?

Magical_Zebra

I believe FF3 is exclusive to the DS

So you will ALSO believe GTA IV is exclusive to the 360. Thanks for clearing that up.

Also that Metal Gear: Substance for the Xbox was also an Exclusive.... :shock:

This look familliar?

But Verge 6 said that not me...

[QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"]This look familliar? Jandurin

Exactly!! Its not an Exclusive its a port. Using his "logic" it is an exclusive....

[QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"]This look familliar? Jandurin

That's what threw me off. I didn't know that there was a difference between the PS2 and Xbox versions.

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"]This look familliar? Magical_Zebra

Exactly!! Its not an Exclusive its a port. Using his "logic" it is an exclusive....

I'm sorry that is not my logic. Maybe Verge 6, but not mines.

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"]This look familliar? Kestastrophe

That's what threw me off. I didn't know that there was a difference between the PS2 and Xbox versions.

Magical_Zebra came in like a wreacking ball.

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"]This look familliar? Magical_Zebra

Exactly!! Its not an Exclusive its a port. Using his "logic" it is an exclusive....

[QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"]

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"]This look familliar? Jandurin

Exactly!! Its not an Exclusive its a port. Using his "logic" it is an exclusive....

Ok gotcha. In the process I see I confused you and Ketasrophe.... :lol: