Xbox has the best library now?

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="IbukiNinja"]

I'm not saying 360 doesn't have the best library now. I need to know what makes it the best. You said exclusive. Is that true?

p2rus

"13. It took a year for the 360 to get its first good game. -no. statistically, the 360's launch games were better than both the Wii's and PS3's current lineup. the 360 launched with one AAA and three AAs. the PS3 currently has two AAs. The Wii currently has one AAA and two AAs. Even if you toss out PDZ (if you want to change the rules), GRAW came out before gears of war so there's still a AAA right there...before the one year mark. want to say that the 360's AAs are junk? Take a look at how that would leave the PS3's and Wii's lineup."

what about exclusive launch games...and yeah you should change the rules for pdz, played it at my friends house and its horrible. especially the dumb little frisbee of death

i was talking about exclusives.

Note: I never made an agrument it was not the best...

IbukiNinja

i thoght graw was not considered an exclusive...pc version? i knw its different, but still. you cant pretend it doesnt existp2rus

then why should it not be exclusive? :?

[QUOTE="IbukiNinja"]

Note: I never made an agrument it was not the best...

musicalmac

Clarifaction? I know, I know I'm label as a PS3 fanboy, but logic > over bullcrap is my philosophy. I was starting to smell something stink when people call the Xbox360 the best library. Personally, I don't agree, but if the rules seems justified enough to follow then I don't oppose the saying.

i thoght graw was not considered an exclusive...pc version? i knw its different, but still. you cant pretend it doesnt existp2rus

The two version don't even share the same dev team or viewpoint. Completely different levels, sounds, characters, etc. The two are literally totally different games, sharing merely name and scenario.

um ok but i was under the impression that gamespot doesnt consider this an exclusivep2rus

it just shares a game page with the others because of the name.

ok im talking about in sw, how graw is considered the same game. come on guys, ninja gaiden and ninja gaiden sigma...sound familiar to anyone?p2rus

lol every topic I make Ninja Gaiden Sigma is mention. Yes, Ninja Gaiden Sigma is an exclusive.

ok im talking about in sw, how graw is considered the same game. come on guys, ninja gaiden and ninja gaiden sigma...sound familiar to anyone?p2rus

sigma is ninja gaiden with better graphics and extra content...it's not a whole new game.

ok im talking about in sw, how graw is considered the same game. come on guys, ninja gaiden and ninja gaiden sigma...sound familiar to anyone?p2rus

Except Sigma had MUCH more in common with its predecessor than the PC version of GRAW ever had with the 360 version. Most of the missions, all of the characters, sounds, animations, etc. of Sigma were straight from the Xbox versions.

[QUOTE="p2rus"]ok im talking about in sw, how graw is considered the same game. come on guys, ninja gaiden and ninja gaiden sigma...sound familiar to anyone?IbukiNinja

lol every topic I make Ninja Gaiden Sigma is mention. Yes, Ninja Gaiden Sigma is an exclusive.

it's extra content is exclusive. the game itself is not. why should the rules be allowed to change for this one game? :?

[QUOTE="IbukiNinja"]

[QUOTE="p2rus"]ok im talking about in sw, how graw is considered the same game. come on guys, ninja gaiden and ninja gaiden sigma...sound familiar to anyone?CaseyWegner

lol every topic I make Ninja Gaiden Sigma is mention. Yes, Ninja Gaiden Sigma is an exclusive.

it's extra content is exclusive. the game itself is not. why should the rules be allowed to change for this one game? :?

What? No sir, I'm not going through this with you again.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="IbukiNinja"]

[QUOTE="p2rus"]ok im talking about in sw, how graw is considered the same game. come on guys, ninja gaiden and ninja gaiden sigma...sound familiar to anyone?IbukiNinja

lol every topic I make Ninja Gaiden Sigma is mention. Yes, Ninja Gaiden Sigma is an exclusive.

it's extra content is exclusive. the game itself is not. why should the rules be allowed to change for this one game? :?

What? No sir, I'm not going through this with you again.

Can we call the 360 version of GTA IV an exclusive, as it has extra content as well?

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="IbukiNinja"]

[QUOTE="p2rus"]ok im talking about in sw, how graw is considered the same game. come on guys, ninja gaiden and ninja gaiden sigma...sound familiar to anyone?IbukiNinja

lol every topic I make Ninja Gaiden Sigma is mention. Yes, Ninja Gaiden Sigma is an exclusive.

it's extra content is exclusive. the game itself is not. why should the rules be allowed to change for this one game? :?

What? No sir, I'm not going through this with you again.

i'm glad. :)

Xbox has a library? Splendid, do they carry any Charles Dickens? *End*

I'm a firm believer of the 360's superior library in the near future. While Heavenly Sword is appealing, titles like Mass Effect, Bioshock, and Halo 3 are much to my liking.

what i meant by the comparison was that graw is not exclusive to the 360. if i can pick it up on the pc, then its not exclusive. how hard is that to understand!? its not exclusive!p2rus

are you trying to tell me that the game's name is more important than the game itself? :o

what i meant by the comparison was that graw is not exclusive to the 360. if i can pick it up on the pc, then its not exclusive. how hard is that to understand!? its not exclusive!p2rus

How hard is it to understand that the only similarities the two games share are in name? If we went by your logic, we can consider FFXIII a multiplat, as a variant of it is heading for the 360.

[QUOTE="IbukiNinja"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"][QUOTE="IbukiNinja"]

[QUOTE="p2rus"]ok im talking about in sw, how graw is considered the same game. come on guys, ninja gaiden and ninja gaiden sigma...sound familiar to anyone?Verge_6

lol every topic I make Ninja Gaiden Sigma is mention. Yes, Ninja Gaiden Sigma is an exclusive.

it's extra content is exclusive. the game itself is not. why should the rules be allowed to change for this one game? :?

What? No sir, I'm not going through this with you again.

Can we call the 360 version of GTA IV an exclusive, as it has extra content as well?

Are you using the Socratic method on me now? are you going to ask a series of question to question my on logic of the matter? Please save the dialect. I firmly believe that Ninja Gaiden Sigma is an exclusive.

Are you using the Socratic method on me now? are you going to ask a series of question to question my on logic of the matter? Please save the dialect. I firmly believe that Ninja Gaiden Sigma is an exclusive.IbukiNinja

I'm not using any methods. Merely logic. ^_^

i'm glad. :)

CaseyWegner

Yeah, well you wrong and I'm right. I'm glad you can see that way.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

i'm glad. :)

IbukiNinja

Yeah, well you wrong and I'm right. I'm glad you can see that way.

RE4: Wii has an exclusive control scheme that drastically alters the way the game is played.

Exclusive? I think not.

RRR- not exclusive.

Sigma - Nay.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

i'm glad. :)

IbukiNinja

Yeah, well you wrong and I'm right. I'm glad you can see that way.

*Claps* You're debating skills are truly a wonder to behold.

[QUOTE="IbukiNinja"]

Are you using the Socratic method on me now? are you going to ask a series of question to question my on logic of the matter? Please save the dialect. I firmly believe that Ninja Gaiden Sigma is an exclusive.Verge_6

I'm not using any methods. Merely logic. ^_^

I going to say why NGS is exclusive and no need to argue because it will be closed ears from my side.

1. New engine build exclusivity for PS3
2. New gameplay
3. New characters
4. New Designer
5. New Title
6. Professional gaming magazine call it an exclusive

that is my case, and I will go to trail with it.

ok gs graw has been called a multiplat. what more do you want. your a mod for crying out loudp2rus

no it hasn't. it's been called a game that shares the same name as the others. have you read the actual reviews?:|

[QUOTE="IbukiNinja"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

i'm glad. :)

Jandurin

Yeah, well you wrong and I'm right. I'm glad you can see that way.

RE4: Wii has an exclusive control scheme that drastically alters the way the game is played.

Exclusive? I think not.

RRR- not exclusive.

Sigma - Nay.

I heard it all. I understand there is two ways to look at it. System Wars or Logically. If you follow Casey idea then it's SW. If you follow mines it's logical.

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]

[QUOTE="IbukiNinja"]

Are you using the Socratic method on me now? are you going to ask a series of question to question my on logic of the matter? Please save the dialect. I firmly believe that Ninja Gaiden Sigma is an exclusive.IbukiNinja

I'm not using any methods. Merely logic. ^_^

I going to say why NGS is exclusive and no need to argue because it will be closed ears from my side.

1. New engine build exclusivity for PS3
2. New gameplay
3. New characters
4. New Designer
5. New Title
6. Professional gaming magazine call it an exclusive

that is my case, and I will go to trail with it.

The latter half of your reasons are laughable, at best.

4) New Designer. What drastic design changes have there been that alter the entire game? A few level with Rachel in them?

5) New title. Ah, so TITLES now make a games exclusitivity...

6) Gaming magazine says it is. I'm guessing this was either a magazine with the word 'Playstation' in its title, or Gamepro.

Actually, pretty much the only valid ones you have are two and three, but if you use those, then there are going to be a HELL of alot mroe 360 'exclusives' to be added.

I heard it all. I understand there is two ways to look at it. System Wars or Logically. If you follow Casey idea then it's SW. If you follow mines it's logical.IbukiNinja

ive seen numerous threads that conclude that graw isnt exclusivep2rus

numerous threads coming to the wrong conclusion, you mean. can you tell me how you are getting around the fact that they are NOT the same games?

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="IbukiNinja"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

i'm glad. :)

IbukiNinja

Yeah, well you wrong and I'm right. I'm glad you can see that way.

RE4: Wii has an exclusive control scheme that drastically alters the way the game is played.

Exclusive? I think not.

RRR- not exclusive.

Sigma - Nay.

I heard it all. I understand there is two ways to look at it. System Wars or Logically. If you follow Casey idea then it's SW. If you follow mines it's logical.

My, you ARE on a high-horse, aren't you? IS this really how you debate? By repeatedly saying 'my view is the right one, no exceptions. Anyone who disagrees with me is in denial'? If you were logical, you would see things from sides of the debate. You are doing anything but.

[QUOTE="IbukiNinja"]I heard it all. I understand there is two ways to look at it. System Wars or Logically. If you follow Casey idea then it's SW. If you follow mines it's logical.Jandurin

Come back bro...you taking it too deep. I was talking about the subject of "what is an exclusive"

best next gen libary.ginglejangle

it's current gen now. next gen isn't for a long time.

[QUOTE="Jandurin"]

:lol:

RE4: Wii has an exclusive control scheme that drastically alters the way the game is played.

Exclusive? I think not.

RRR- not exclusive.

Sigma - Nay.

IbukiNinja

I heard it all. I understand there is two ways to look at it. System Wars or Logically. If you follow Casey idea then it's SW. If you follow mines it's logical.

So anyone that does not agree with you is written off as fanboy, however you are poignant in your self proclamation of a logical argument? That pretty much sums up this thread.

My, you ARE on a high-horse, aren't you? IS this really how you debate? By repeatedly saying 'my view is the right one, no exceptions. Anyone who disagrees with me is in denial'? If you were logical, you would see things from sides of the debate. You are doing anything but.

Verge_6

My horse was shot long ago. I'm not here to say my is the only way, but I do know what I say on this subject matter is not opinions and theories. I'm giving you facts on why NGS is exclusive. That is all. This why I'm so firm on this discussion.

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="IbukiNinja"]I heard it all. I understand there is two ways to look at it. System Wars or Logically. If you follow Casey idea then it's SW. If you follow mines it's logical.IbukiNinja

Come back bro...you taking it too deep. I was talking about the subject of "what is an exclusive"

You can argue logically, but you can't argue that you can argue non-SW logic without realizing that without SW logic, exclusivity doesn't matter.

"two ways to look at it. SW or Logically." - It's either SW logic or real logic. You lose either way.

[QUOTE="IbukiNinja"][QUOTE="Jandurin"]

:lol:

RE4: Wii has an exclusive control scheme that drastically alters the way the game is played.

Exclusive? I think not.

RRR- not exclusive.

Sigma - Nay.

Kestastrophe

I heard it all. I understand there is two ways to look at it. System Wars or Logically. If you follow Casey idea then it's SW. If you follow mines it's logical.

So anyone that does not agree with you is written off as fanboy, however you are poignant in your self proclamation of a logical argument? That pretty much sums up this thread.

Fanboy? hmmm, no I never mention anything about fanboy. How did you assume that?

[QUOTE="IbukiNinja"]

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="IbukiNinja"]I heard it all. I understand there is two ways to look at it. System Wars or Logically. If you follow Casey idea then it's SW. If you follow mines it's logical.Jandurin

Come back bro...you taking it too deep. I was talking about the subject of "what is an exclusive"

You can argue logically, but you can't argue that you can argue non-SW logic without realizing that without SW logic, exclusivity doesn't matter.

"two ways to look at it. SW or Logically." - It's either SW logic or real logic. You lose either way.

Yes, I actually argee exclusive don't matter, but that a whole nother topic. That is why I told you to come back and stay on this one.

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]

My, you ARE on a high-horse, aren't you? IS this really how you debate? By repeatedly saying 'my view is the right one, no exceptions. Anyone who disagrees with me is in denial'? If you were logical, you would see things from sides of the debate. You are doing anything but.

IbukiNinja

My horse was shot long ago. I'm not here to say my is the only way, but I do know what I say on this subject matter is not opinions and theories. I'm giving you facts on why NGS is exclusive. That is all. This why I'm so firm on this discussion.

You THINK those facts alone make NGS an exclusive. You say your horse was shot long ago, yet you make statements like this? If anything, you're still on your saddle.

That is why I told you to come back and stay on this one.IbukiNinja

[QUOTE="IbukiNinja"][QUOTE="Verge_6"]

My, you ARE on a high-horse, aren't you? IS this really how you debate? By repeatedly saying 'my view is the right one, no exceptions. Anyone who disagrees with me is in denial'? If you were logical, you would see things from sides of the debate. You are doing anything but.

Verge_6

My horse was shot long ago. I'm not here to say my is the only way, but I do know what I say on this subject matter is not opinions and theories. I'm giving you facts on why NGS is exclusive. That is all. This why I'm so firm on this discussion.

You THINK those facts alone make NGS an exclusive. You say your horse was shot long ago, yet you make statements like this? If anything, you're still on your saddle.

Then what is an exclusive? define it for me please.

[QUOTE="IbukiNinja"]That is why I told you to come back and stay on this one.Jandurin

Why? Common knowledge.

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="IbukiNinja"]That is why I told you to come back and stay on this one.IbukiNinja

Why? Common knowledge.

And, I suppose that would make Bully a Wii "generation exclusive". That's too messy.

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]

My, you ARE on a high-horse, aren't you? IS this really how you debate? By repeatedly saying 'my view is the right one, no exceptions. Anyone who disagrees with me is in denial'? If you were logical, you would see things from sides of the debate. You are doing anything but.

IbukiNinja

My horse was shot long ago. I'm not here to say my is the only way, but I do know what I say on this subject matter is not opinions and theories. I'm giving you facts on why NGS is exclusive. That is all. This why I'm so firm on this discussion.

Except that since NGS is an (improved, more or less)remake of a game that was on the Xbox twice last generation, your "facts" about it being exclusive are open to interpretation. Considering that Xbox 360 owners can play Ninja Gaiden Black via backwards compatibility, it's arguable that Sigma is even "exclusive" to the PS3 when considering current-gen systems. That you would claim your argument has no "opinions and theories" (well all arguments have some form of opinion or theory)just furthers the point that your horse wasn't shot, and is indeed fairly high. ;)

Also, yes, the 360 has the best current lineup. Not because it has the best single game(s) of the 3 systems (although in my opinion it does), but simply because it has the largest and widest-ranging library at the moment. Both the Wii and PS3 have some quality games, but neither has the sheer quantity of quality titles yet to compete with the 360.