WTF! Do people here actually cheer for the death of PC gaming?

When I'm not nestled inside of my PC gaming bunker, I come here sometimes to learn about the promising games coming out for the consoles. I only have an XBOX 360, but I don't pledge my allegience to any type of corporation (be it oil companies, grocery stores and, most importantly, console companies).

I understand that people here have different tastes and I respect that, and as it happens, I myself enjoy PC gaming much more than anything else, so I have my own bias. It's just that I find it funny (and indicative) how these people that only own one console hate on the PC so much because, by nature, they think it is a glorified abacus that is only geared towards nerds and niche players.

The current state of the industry is scary because some of you console gamers are becoming apologetics for your console of choice no matter what. It's really idiotic to watch you consumers apologize for your console's shortcomings and willingly going along with more bull**** that you have to put up with every few years or so.

I really hope that PC gaming lives forever because, unlike you, I dont want a second-rate PC that makes you pay for online service, silly gimmicks, second controllers, overly priced adapters and harddrives, limited media capabilities, and extra content priced at a premium that would otherwise be free if you owned a PC.

But probably the most important reason why PC gaming is and has been the most important relic of the industry is the capability of designing your own game. The PC community has to be the most talented bunch you can find, and if you're creative enough, you yourself can design your own ****ing game from scratch without being stifled by console limitations. LBP and The Forge looks like child's play in terms of the creative depth that is found in the thousands of mods being churned out each year. But if you're not that ambitious like me, you can always play AAA(A)games like spore and reap the benfits of having free, quality content later down the road.

I thought developers chose Macs as a platform for creating their games.

Well, uh, more often than PC's.

pc gaming isnt dead....it's just not thriving like it used to be...pc gaming cant die unless nvidia or ati go out of business or intel lol or amd well ati is amd now.

Ever since mplayer.com and heat.net closed down it's felt not as good as it used to be.

I thought developers chose Macs as a platform for creating their games.

Well, uh, more often than PC's.

vlin1108

Its chosen for video editing.

I seriously cannot see myself being a serious PC gamer like some of you. It's just weird to me...But I don't get how anyone would want it dead, or bash that portion of systems.

PC gaming is dying? Last time I checked, Spore is coming out in 8 days.citizen-zero

pc gaming isnt dead....it's just not thriving like it used to be...pc gaming cant die unless nvidia or ati go out of business or intel lol or amd well ati is amd now.

Ever since mplayer.com and heat.net closed down it's felt not as good as it used to be.

primateface

Actually, I think PC gaming is going to be on life support as long as Nvidia and Ati keep their polygon version of "My **** is bigger than yours" and developers don't choose to go back to the time when technology was a tool and not a goal itself.

pc gaming isnt dead....it's just not thriving like it used to be...pc gaming cant die unless nvidia or ati go out of business or intel lol or amd well ati is amd now.

Ever since mplayer.com and heat.net closed down it's felt not as good as it used to be.

primateface

I never said it was dead. I never even said it was dying. I'm only saying that some people here want the PC dead for shortsighted reasons: less PC exclusives, etc.

I dont want PC gaming to die. In fact its fun to try to give our PC counterparts a good ribbing. I just want PC user snobbishness to die.TheGrat1

because all pc user are snob... you are so arogant

[QUOTE="TheGrat1"]I dont want PC gaming to die. In fact its fun to try to give our PC counterparts a good ribbing. I just want PC user snobbishness to die.Franko_3

because all user are snob... you are so arogant

Wow...he never said all PC users are snobs -_-

He was speaking about the general PC gaming community.

[QUOTE="TheGrat1"]I dont want PC gaming to die. In fact its fun to try to give our PC counterparts a good ribbing. I just want PC user snobbishness to die.Franko_3

because all user are snob... you are so arogant

The majority or hermits I see on these forums are stuck up beyond belief. Always saying things like KB/M>all when its just an opinion, and posting Crysis pics in every graphics discussion thread. Its just so annoying.

I just want PC gaming to take over again. But unlike most ignorant people around here I actually think that the PC market has dipped. Which I don't like. I liked when I was able to play, Diablo 2, Deus Ex, System Shock, Baldurs Gate, Age Of Empires, Starcraft quality games on my PC as a leading platform.

Now I have only Crysis which would give me even the slightest reason to upgrade my rig since World Of Warcraft. I don't like online on console's, I prefer M&K and I think that FPS, RTS and such belongs on a PC while I play RPG, Puzzle, TPS and Action/Adventure games on my 360.

Sadly this is not the case. PC is a drag at the moment.

Edit: I just completed System Shock 2 and Deus Ex, and my mind is blown.

[QUOTE="Franko_3"]

[QUOTE="TheGrat1"]I dont want PC gaming to die. In fact its fun to try to give our PC counterparts a good ribbing. I just want PC user snobbishness to die.TheGrat1

because all user are snob... you are so arogant

The majority or hermits I see on these forums are stuck up beyond belief. Always saying things like KB/M>all when its just an opinion, and posting Crysis pics in every graphics discussion thread. Its just so annoying.

I really hope that PC gaming lives forever because, unlike you, I dont want a second-rate PC that makes you pay for online service, silly gimmicks, second controllers, overly priced adapters and harddrives, limited media capabilities, and extra content priced at a premium that would otherwise be free if you owned a PC.

raptorcountry

Wow! Everything's free if you own a PC! You even get free lapdances and backstage passes to all your favorite concerts!

And I thought newegg had some good deals! Where do you buy your PC stuff (particularly those free harddrives)?!

1 reason. Jealousy. They know the PC is better in every single way, ther eis no argument. They are jealous of our graphics and speed and overall technology. Oh and one more thing, higher gaming standards.fatzebra

Any more brilliant theories, Professor? :roll:

[QUOTE="fatzebra"]1 reason. Jealousy. They know the PC is better in every single way, ther eis no argument. They are jealous of our graphics and speed and overall technology. Oh and one more thing, higher gaming standards.lowe0

Any more brilliant theories, Professor? :roll:

We all have opinions. I haven't touched my ps3 in over a month, yet I play on my laptop everyday that I can.

[QUOTE="lowe0"]

[QUOTE="fatzebra"]1 reason. Jealousy. They know the PC is better in every single way, ther eis no argument. They are jealous of our graphics and speed and overall technology. Oh and one more thing, higher gaming standards.slickchris7777

Any more brilliant theories, Professor? :roll:

We all have opinions. I haven't touched my ps3 in over a month, yet I play on my laptop everyday that I can.

Well I can say I have 3 pc's.....I play maybe 2% on my pc and the other 98% on all my consoles. It can go both ways. I dont want the pc to die...I just want pc gamers to take a step back and realize there is more out there...And im sure about 100% of pc gamers have played a console at one time or another.

You pick what you like and so do others...I would never ever in a million years give up gaming on a console. It just feels right.

[QUOTE="TheGrat1"][QUOTE="Franko_3"]

[QUOTE="TheGrat1"]I dont want PC gaming to die. In fact its fun to try to give our PC counterparts a good ribbing. I just want PC user snobbishness to die.lowe0

because all user are snob... you are so arogant

The majority or hermits I see on these forums are stuck up beyond belief. Always saying things like KB/M>all when its just an opinion, and posting Crysis pics in every graphics discussion thread. Its just so annoying.

I always see consolites saying "not everyone can afford a good PC" or "PCs are too complicated for most people."

[QUOTE="Franko_3"]

[QUOTE="TheGrat1"]I dont want PC gaming to die. In fact its fun to try to give our PC counterparts a good ribbing. I just want PC user snobbishness to die.TheGrat1

because all user are snob... you are so arogant

The majority or hermits I see on these forums are stuck up beyond belief. Always saying things like KB/M>all when its just an opinion, and posting Crysis pics in every graphics discussion thread. Its just so annoying.

Truth hurts, doesn't it?

PC gaming isn't dying, just ask the millions of teenage girls and housewives who keep it alive by buying Nancy Drew and The Sims.

http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/news/40312/Top-Selling-PC-Games-for-the-Week-Ending-July-12

But then if you don't like Nancy Drew, The Sims or WoW PC gaming might as well be dead. That is why I bought a 360.

I expect both ATI and NVIDIA to take stock hits next year. The days of the high-end, pc exclusive are coming to an end. I say good riddance, the upgrade your pc for a single game cycle was getting annoying. Bring on the multiplats.

Carmack on pc game sales http://blogs.pcworld.com/gameon/archives/007422.html

This is why some people want PC gaming to die:

PC gaming isn't dying, just ask the millions of teenage girls and housewives who keep it alive by buying Nancy Drew and The Sims.

http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/news/40312/Top-Selling-PC-Games-for-the-Week-Ending-July-12

But then if you don't like Nancy Drew, The Sims or WoW PC gaming might as well be dead. That is why I bought a 360.

I expect both ATI and NVIDIA to take stock hits next year. The days of the high-end, pc exclusive are coming to an end. I say good riddance, the upgrade your pc for a single game cycle was getting annoying. Bring on the multiplats.

Carmack on pc game sales http://blogs.pcworld.com/gameon/archives/007422.html

dc337

Crysis, S.T.A.L.K.E.R., The Witcher, The Orange Box, Call of Duty 4, Command and Conquer 3, Company of Heroes and such all being past the platinum mark on PC and all of which were released in the last two years say otherwise. :roll:

I suppose that if I don't like the Wii, console gaming "might as well" be dead.

[QUOTE="TheGrat1"][QUOTE="Franko_3"]

[QUOTE="TheGrat1"]I dont want PC gaming to die. In fact its fun to try to give our PC counterparts a good ribbing. I just want PC user snobbishness to die.lowe0

because all user are snob... you are so arogant

The majority or hermits I see on these forums are stuck up beyond belief. Always saying things like KB/M>all when its just an opinion, and posting Crysis pics in every graphics discussion thread. Its just so annoying.

Well alot of people from what I've seen in my small time as a registered member(used to read but decided to register :P)console only guys always say PCs are too expensive or too complicated, which makes me believe that the standard console only person(on this board) is either

A. Computer Illiterate

Because that's what their arguments lead to.

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="TheGrat1"][QUOTE="Franko_3"]

[QUOTE="TheGrat1"]I dont want PC gaming to die. In fact its fun to try to give our PC counterparts a good ribbing. I just want PC user snobbishness to die.Espada12

because all user are snob... you are so arogant

The majority or hermits I see on these forums are stuck up beyond belief. Always saying things like KB/M>all when its just an opinion, and posting Crysis pics in every graphics discussion thread. Its just so annoying.

Well alot of people from what I've seen in my small time as a registered member(used to read but decided to register :P)console only guys always say PCs are too expensive or too complicated, which makes me believe that the standard console only person(on this board) is either

A. Computer Illiterate

Because that's what their arguments lead to.

[QUOTE="raptorcountry"]

I really hope that PC gaming lives forever because, unlike you, I dont want a second-rate PC that makes you pay for online service, silly gimmicks, second controllers, overly priced adapters and harddrives, limited media capabilities, and extra content priced at a premium that would otherwise be free if you owned a PC.

Mike1978Smith

Wow! Everything's free if you own a PC! You even get free lapdances and backstage passes to all your favorite concerts!

And I thought newegg had some good deals! Where do you buy your PC stuff (particularly those free harddrives)?!

You raise a great point even though I never said all that stuff is free on PC. Still, you're right. I hope you typed that pearl of wisdom on your wii.

[QUOTE="primateface"]

pc gaming isnt dead....it's just not thriving like it used to be...pc gaming cant die unless nvidia or ati go out of business or intel lol or amd well ati is amd now.

Ever since mplayer.com and heat.net closed down it's felt not as good as it used to be.

LordQuorthon

Actually, I think PC gaming is going to be on life support as long as Nvidia and Ati keep their polygon version of "My **** is bigger than yours" and developers don't choose to go back to the time when technology was a tool and not a goal itself.

This is honestly one of the best posts I've read in awhile here, and you said about technology just hit the nail right on the head.

I have to agree with you in every way, I've always seen a huge gap between Pc gaming and consoles. It's like consoles are meant for people who want to casualy go with gaming and involve themselves in the worlds that these imaginative developers create, and while you're able to do that also on Pc, Pc gaming also allows people to unleash they're own imaginations.Patatopan

Nah, it couldn't be that they compared the costs of a PC (both in cash up-front and effort expended doing things that aren't playing a game) vs. the costs of a console and found that the PC didn't provide a proportional increase in value. :roll:lowe0

Maybe so, but my point still stands, if people use these arguments obviously a stereotype is going to form.

[QUOTE="Patatopan"]I have to agree with you in every way, I've always seen a huge gap between Pc gaming and consoles. It's like consoles are meant for people who want to casualy go with gaming and involve themselves in the worlds that these imaginative developers create, and while you're able to do that also on Pc, Pc gaming also allows people to unleash they're own imaginations.lowe0

What do you mean by involved in the process?

What do you mean by involved in the process?

Espada12

Console gamers have to give up a lot of control over our experience for all that convenience, but for me, it's completely worth it. I enjoyed PC gaming a lot more when I was in college and had more free time than I knew what to do with, but now that I'm out and working, I'd rather have the convenience of a console. I still keep a reasonably up-to-date gaming PC around, but not much interests me on it.

PC gaming isn't dying, just ask the millions of teenage girls and housewives who keep it alive by buying Nancy Drew and The Sims.

http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/news/40312/Top-Selling-PC-Games-for-the-Week-Ending-July-12

But then if you don't like Nancy Drew, The Sims or WoW PC gaming might as well be dead. That is why I bought a 360.

I expect both ATI and NVIDIA to take stock hits next year. The days of the high-end, pc exclusive are coming to an end. I say good riddance, the upgrade your pc for a single game cycle was getting annoying. Bring on the multiplats.

Carmack on pc game sales http://blogs.pcworld.com/gameon/archives/007422.html

dc337

Most of the posters here, especially this scholar, are only reinforcing my point. As a 360 owner I'm sure you don't mind paying extra for more(bitesize) content and online fees. I wouldn't mind if all the PC exclusives went to consoles as long as they stay on PC. Starcraft 2 on the 360 pad would crush your will to live.

I thought developers chose Macs as a platform for creating their games.

Well, uh, more often than PC's.

vlin1108

Dude. nobody programs on a Mac.

[QUOTE="vlin1108"]

I thought developers chose Macs as a platform for creating their games.

Well, uh, more often than PC's.

Freddie9027361

Dude. nobody programs on a Mac.

Hell, I'm a programmer, and I'm typing this on a Mac right now. Seriously, where do you people get this stuff?

[QUOTE="slickchris7777"][QUOTE="lowe0"]

[QUOTE="fatzebra"]1 reason. Jealousy. They know the PC is better in every single way, ther eis no argument. They are jealous of our graphics and speed and overall technology. Oh and one more thing, higher gaming standards.FunkyHeadHunter

Any more brilliant theories, Professor? :roll:

We all have opinions. I haven't touched my ps3 in over a month, yet I play on my laptop everyday that I can.

Well I can say I have 3 pc's.....I play maybe 2% on my pc and the other 98% on all my consoles. It can go both ways. I dont want the pc to die...I just want pc gamers to take a step back and realize there is more out there...And im sure about 100% of pc gamers have played a console at one time or another.

You pick what you like and so do others...I would never ever in a million years give up gaming on a console. It just feels right.

And I feel that consoles are destroying video games as a whole, Consoles have made games more and more casual, and lower quality. I think of consoles/console makers now the same way I think of pop music stars like britny spears and crap, they're music sucks, but many people still like it, because they don't know what good music is

Only the stupid ones.strudel420

Yup, pretty much.

I just laugh at how any true gamer would want any one system to fail.

The day their is only one option for gaming is the day that gaming dies.

Competition is a good thing and the gamers benefit the most.

It is one thing to say how much you like your console of choice, but to hear some people say they hope a company fails just blows my mind.

Do you really think a company like Microsoft would have shelled out all that money for a 3 year warranty on their consoles if there were no other consoles?

A one console world would be terrible because that company would grow apathetic and feel no need to ever raise the bar and do something different.