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#1 caseypayne69
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If the game had zero load time, pop up, jaggies, and what ever other issues?  Maybe had locked 60 frames per second as well?  

 

What if you could have Call of duty frame rates with Killzone graphics on a GTA open world?  Does that sound better or worse then having next gen graphics that will chug at 30 frames per second and still have jaggies and load times?

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#2 R3FURBISHED
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GTA V?
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#3 lundy86_4
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Nope.

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#4 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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Sure. We've reached the point of diminishing returns. PS4 and Xbox One games look very good, beyond anything that the PS3 and Xbox 360 could manage, but they look like the smallest generational leap, visually speaking, yet.
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#5 freedomfreak
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No.
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#6 timbers_WSU
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Sure. We've reached the point of diminishing returns. PS4 and Xbox One games look very good, beyond anything that the PS3 and Xbox 360 could manage, but they look like the smallest generational leap, visually speaking, yet.charizard1605
This. I am not impressed with anything on PC, XB1, or PS4. And haven't been impressed in a pretty long time.
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"]Sure. We've reached the point of diminishing returns. PS4 and Xbox One games look very good, beyond anything that the PS3 and Xbox 360 could manage, but they look like the smallest generational leap, visually speaking, yet.timbers_WSU
This. I am not impressed with anything on PC, XB1, or PS4. And haven't been impressed in a pretty long time.

Lol, I just realized the joke in your sig :lol: Funny :P
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#8 ShaineTheNerd
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I am absolutely loving Darksiders 2... graphics do not phase me. When graphics became the main focus as what determines a game, that's when this industry became poisoned.
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#9 93BlackHawk93
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Just here for the sig.

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#10 moistsandwich
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ACCEPT.... A.C.C.E.P.T. It's ACCEPT, NOT EXCEPT. Good lord where'd you go to school at the USA?

Whether you accept PS3/360 level graphics or not, thats what you're going to get for the most part out of its launch titles. A lot of games are being developed for current gen and next gen systems. Which means you're getting an up-res'd version with maybe some fancier effects and better framerate.

I'm okay with that for now. But I expect better a couple years into this new gen.

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#11 moistsandwich
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I am absolutely loving Darksiders 2... graphics do not phase me. When graphics became the main focus as what determines a game, that's when this industry became poisoned. ShaineTheNerd

Is a good game no doubt.... and a BEAUTIFUL one at that. If you're playing it maxed on PC.

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#12 Michael0134567
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You mean accept? 30 FPS > 60 FPS.

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#13 GuNsbl4ziN
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You mean accept? 30 FPS > 60 FPS.

Michael0134567
No, 60 is a bigger number than 30.
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#14 93BlackHawk93
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You mean accept? 30 FPS > 60 FPS.

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Michael, you're loco.
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#15 princeofshapeir
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You mean accept? 30 FPS > 60 FPS.

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teh cinematic framerate
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#16 Ly_the_Fairy
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I've seen games that look like throw-up on the 360 and PS3, so please no.

Next gen hardware can achieve 60fps with higher-than-current-gen graphical quality. I hope some devs choose to go that route.

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#17 psymon100
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You mean accept? 30 FPS > 60 FPS.

Michael0134567

You really prefer 30fps, man?

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#18 Heil68
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Nope.
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#19 caseypayne69
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Thanks for the grammar update. I corrected the first post. Was just typing to fast.
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#20 jsmoke03
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if it wasnt for your sig.....

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#21 Masenkoe
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Sure. We've reached the point of diminishing returns. PS4 and Xbox One games look very good, beyond anything that the PS3 and Xbox 360 could manage, but they look like the smallest generational leap, visually speaking, yet.charizard1605

 

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#22 HAZE-Unit
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#23 ShaineTheNerd
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[QUOTE="ShaineTheNerd"]I am absolutely loving Darksiders 2... graphics do not phase me. When graphics became the main focus as what determines a game, that's when this industry became poisoned. moistsandwich

Is a good game no doubt.... and a BEAUTIFUL one at that. If you're playing it maxed on PC.

That I am... not doing. Working on it though. Currently 5/8 the way through my first build.
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#24 IAAGguy
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Well I for one would be perfectly fine with PS3 and XBOX360 graphics.

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#25 Wickerman777
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Sure. We've reached the point of diminishing returns. PS4 and Xbox One games look very good, beyond anything that the PS3 and Xbox 360 could manage, but they look like the smallest generational leap, visually speaking, yet.charizard1605

It was a long time ago so perhaps people have a tough time remembering but this is exactly what everyone was saying about the current gen until Gears of War came out. It might take a year or two but there will be a game that comes out for one of these systems eventually that will blow everyone away.

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#26 Senor_Kami
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I'd accept it if the game was basically built to run on 360/PS3 and then the devs one day woke up and were like, "we now have 5gb of ram to work with and we're not going to use any of it for visual improvements". If it was like Skyrim with no loading ever under any circumstances. If it was like Forza and you could instantly switch cars and tracks in the middle of a race with no loading because they threw almost the entire game into RAM, that would be pretty cool. I'd really just like to see EA publish something where they basically threw the entire Burnout Paradise, Mirror's Edge, and Battlefield 3 engines into an open world game where anytime you picked up a gun it Battlefield quality shooting, anytime you hopped in a car it was burnout quality driving, and anytime you're running around unarmed, it's Mirror's Edge quality parkour... all with zero loading because you can literally throw at least 10 different current gen engines into the ram of a next gen systems.
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#27 sukraj
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No

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#28 ShepardCommandr
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Sorry didn't read anything.

That sig is just...wow.....

I just can't stop looking at it.

 

Still no i will not accept ps3 graphics on a next gen system,no matter what.

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#29 KillzoneSnake
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X1 already does this. Titalfall, COD ghost, all have last gen graphics but at 1080/60. Only PS4 has the power to do 1080/60 with better graphics :cool:

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#30 SalikSST
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Sorry didn't read anything.

That sig is just...wow.....

I just can't stop looking at it.

 

Still no i will not accept ps3 graphics on a next gen system,no matter what.

ShepardCommandr

i agree with you on that sig who is she anyway.BTW graphics wont matter to me on next gen console unless they are free of bugs,glitches,framerate issues etc.

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#31 OneInchMan99
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Graphics blah blah blah,I enjoy looking at nice graphics but after two minutes of playing I'm concentrating on the gameplay not the graphics.

Games look great now as far as I'm concerned but then I'm just a console peasant,they will look better next gen and thats enough for me.

I'd hate to be so obsessed with how a game looks that I could'nt enjoy it if I spotted some slight graphical anomaly like some people around here.

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#32 WilliamRLBaker
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yes I definitely would.
I don't see a point pushing 1080p, and 60 fps. Give me 720p, 60 fps and all the advantages that sticking with that HD resolution holds such as bigger worlds, better textures, faster load times...etc

 

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#33 GD1551
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"]Sure. We've reached the point of diminishing returns. PS4 and Xbox One games look very good, beyond anything that the PS3 and Xbox 360 could manage, but they look like the smallest generational leap, visually speaking, yet.Masenkoe

 

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Indeed.. I don't see how anything this gen could really compare to the division. The amount of detail in that game is crazy.

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#34 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="Masenkoe"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"]Sure. We've reached the point of diminishing returns. PS4 and Xbox One games look very good, beyond anything that the PS3 and Xbox 360 could manage, but they look like the smallest generational leap, visually speaking, yet.GD1551

 

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Indeed.. I don't see how anything this gen could really compare to the division. The amount of detail in that game is crazy.

at the cost of game world size...etc
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#35 GD1551
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[QUOTE="GD1551"]

[QUOTE="Masenkoe"]

 

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Indeed.. I don't see how anything this gen could really compare to the division. The amount of detail in that game is crazy.

at the cost of game world size...etc

Really? With all the big open world games coming next-gen, I don't see where this complaint of game world size is coming from. It felt like EVERY game announced for next gen was open world.

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#36 campzor
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no.
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#37 Wickerman777
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Umm, no. If that were the case what would be the point in upgrading from my X360? Heck, I'm pretty disappointed in the new consoles as it is: 1.8 tflops is well below what my expectations were (was expecting 2.5) and 1.2 tflops is ridiculous for a new console in late 2013.

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#38 ugoo18
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[QUOTE="Masenkoe"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"]Sure. We've reached the point of diminishing returns. PS4 and Xbox One games look very good, beyond anything that the PS3 and Xbox 360 could manage, but they look like the smallest generational leap, visually speaking, yet.GD1551

 

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Indeed.. I don't see how anything this gen could really compare to the division. The amount of detail in that game is crazy.

Yeah i would hold on with praising The Division

What we saw was fantastic however considering the difference between Far Cry 3's initial showings and the final thing as well as Watch_Dogs i would not be so quick to jump to conclusions, athough im not sure if Watch_Dogs received a visual downgrade or all the new footage from other games made it seem less impressive.

EDIT: Also charizard is right unless anyone here really thinks the visual leap from the PS1/N64 to PS2/GCN/Xbox or the leap from  PS2/GCN/Xbox to the PS360 is smaller than the leap we are seeing now. I know this is SW but no just no.

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#39 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="GD1551"]

Indeed.. I don't see how anything this gen could really compare to the division. The amount of detail in that game is crazy.

GD1551

at the cost of game world size...etc

Really? With all the big open world games coming next-gen, I don't see where this complaint of game world size is coming from. It felt like EVERY game announced for next gen was open world.

righttt so your telling me even the linear games felt like that? please come on stop making shit up. Its simple development 101 you have a budget as in what you can do with available power, as graphics and texture resolution go up game area sizes go down, and you trade off to receive certain benefits. A game like infamous 3 which has been said to be bigger in scope possibly than both infamous 1 and 2's areas could be vastly bigger if they aimed for 720p and 60 fps instead of 1080p and 60 fps. Aiming for super high graphics fidelity and resolution and frame rate will limit the texture resolution, area sizes and game sizes this is a simple fact.
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#40 GD1551
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righttt so your telling me even the linear games felt like that? please come on stop making shit up. Its simple development 101 you have a budget as in what you can do with available power, as graphics and texture resolution go up game area sizes go down, and you trade off to receive certain benefits. A game like infamous 3 which has been said to be bigger in scope possibly than both infamous 1 and 2's areas could be vastly bigger if they aimed for 720p and 60 fps instead of 1080p and 60 fps. Aiming for super high graphics fidelity and resolution and frame rate will limit the texture resolution, area sizes and game sizes this is a simple fact.WilliamRLBaker

Ok... you also have a budget and deadline on how much content you can put into the games, the size of the games you want are almost MMORPG levels and are not reasonable even if they made the game entirely on last gen hardware. Also yeah, even the games like Killzone SF are giving you multiple choices and have been opened up. Not sure what you are talking about. Your statement makes no sense, not only are words alot bigger, but more games are shooting for open world like Witcher 3, The division and Metal Gear 5. So your bigger world complaint has no merits.

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#41 Stinger78
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Isn't that pretty-much what this next generation is supposed to be?
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#42 GarGx1
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You are aware that not every game released for the next gen consoles will push the boat out? You know in the sameway as every game on current consoles still don't, even after 7 years.

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lolno

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#44 faizan_faizan
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

No

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#45 deactivated-5ba16896d1cc2
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I feel like this will still be quite a big generational leap... Going from 720p games to full 1080p games alone is quite a difference in sharpness and clarity, espcially on big TV'S
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#46 Tessellation
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These next gen games on consoles dont look or feel next gen at all..,it is marginal upgrade,the only games that looked next gen BF4 and The Witcher 3 on PC.. lol 1080p in 2013...
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#47 Pikminmaniac
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I would accept low end graphics if the games had good gameplay and level design. Those two elements are all that truly matter and they are both timeless

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#48 Zaibach
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[QUOTE="GD1551"]

[QUOTE="Masenkoe"]

 

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ugoo18

Indeed.. I don't see how anything this gen could really compare to the division. The amount of detail in that game is crazy.

Yeah i would hold on with praising The Division

What we saw was fantastic however considering the difference between Far Cry 3's initial showings and the final thing as well as Watch_Dogs i would not be so quick to jump to conclusions, athough im not sure if Watch_Dogs received a visual downgrade or all the new footage from other games made it seem less impressive.

EDIT: Also charizard is right unless anyone here really thinks the visual leap from the PS1/N64 to PS2/GCN/Xbox or the leap from  PS2/GCN/Xbox to the PS360 is smaller than the leap we are seeing now. I know this is SW but no just no.

sorry but regardless of ubisoft's past misdeeds, games blike shadowfall, ryse, second son, the order, bf4 are night and day better than anything we've seen this gen and they launch window games. 

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#49 AmazonTreeBoa
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Nope.

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#50 ugoo18
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[QUOTE="ugoo18"]

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

Indeed.. I don't see how anything this gen could really compare to the division. The amount of detail in that game is crazy.

Zaibach

Yeah i would hold on with praising The Division

What we saw was fantastic however considering the difference between Far Cry 3's initial showings and the final thing as well as Watch_Dogs i would not be so quick to jump to conclusions, athough im not sure if Watch_Dogs received a visual downgrade or all the new footage from other games made it seem less impressive.

EDIT: Also charizard is right unless anyone here really thinks the visual leap from the PS1/N64 to PS2/GCN/Xbox or the leap from  PS2/GCN/Xbox to the PS360 is smaller than the leap we are seeing now. I know this is SW but no just no.

sorry but regardless of ubisoft's past misdeeds, games blike shadowfall, ryse, second son, the order, bf4 are night and day better than anything we've seen this gen and they launch window games. 

What?

Did i ever say they were not?

I simply said based on previous evidence to hold on with praising the Division just yet. I certainly never said those games were not better than the PS360 gen.