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#1 deactivated-5acbb9993d0bd
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You can tell this forum is dead! its right on the main page. Can't believe a 12 year old game still outclasses 99% of games to this day. Only on PC ... yadda yadda racist master race superiority!

Civ 6 next month, who can compete?

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#2  Edited By deactivated-6092a2d005fba
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@MBirdy88:

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#3  Edited By Cloud_imperium
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Even Hodor likes World of Warcraft.

http://www.itechpost.com/articles/32950/20160927/game-of-thrones-actor-hodor-discusses-love-of-world-of-warcraft-and-other-games.htm

Thank you So... I mean PC.

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#4 SecretPolice
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World of Master Slaves.. :P

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#5 Sweetbackhair
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My friends wonder why I would rather play WoW instead of FF XI. This game is still a lot of fun.

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#6 Maroxad
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Meh...

couldnt get into the latest expansion. The battle mechanics really shows its age. And the game has been stripped down far too much. It doesnt feel like you are playing a character anymore, instead playing a class. Being marginally better than WoD does not make it a good expac as far as I am concerned.

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#7  Edited By Kruiz_Bathory
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@i_p_daily: lmao good one

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#8 Chutebox
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@Sweetbackhair: Hey, ffxiah.com is still fun too. Although no new major content is starting to catch up...

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#9 DaVillain  Moderator
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I'm still NOT coming back to WoW.

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#10 Dakur
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Forza Horizon 3, Xcom 2, WoW, Fifa17, NBA2K17 all recently received 9s. Is Gamespot turning into 9GN?

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#11 FLOPPAGE_50
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@Maroxad: wod was shit, this has been a nice turn around

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#12 speedfog
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@dakur said:

Forza Horizon 3, Xcom 2, WoW, Fifa17, NBA2K17 all recently received 9s. Is Gamespot turning into 9GN?

No, those are good games.

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#13 Mr_Huggles_dog
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So far Legion is the best xpac since Wrath.

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#14 cainetao11
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I hope those that play it, enjoy it thoroughly. Not my type of game.

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#15 ominous_titan
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Never played wow and I think I'd never get over how bad the graphics look if I tried.

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#16 cainetao11
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@speedfog said:
@dakur said:

Forza Horizon 3, Xcom 2, WoW, Fifa17, NBA2K17 all recently received 9s. Is Gamespot turning into 9GN?

No, those are good games.

LOL maybe some are under the impression our opinions should be factored into Gamespot employees review score somehow.

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#17  Edited By Maroxad
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@FLOPPAGE_50 said:

@Maroxad: wod was shit, this has been a nice turn around

WoD is an extremely low bar. Hence, being better than WoD isnt exactly something noteworthy.

I didnt play Legion all that hardcore though, so it is probably better for the more dedicated WoWers. But I lost interest a week after getting to level cap, and went back to playing other (PC) Games.

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@cainetao11 said:

I hope those that play it, enjoy it thoroughly. Not my type of game.

Have you been at the happy pills again?

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@GarGx1 said:
@cainetao11 said:

I hope those that play it, enjoy it thoroughly. Not my type of game.

Have you been at the happy pills again?

LOL a great show brings out the best in ole caine

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#20 deactivated-583c85dc33d18
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Doesn't seem appropriate to rate MMOs by any subjective metric.

Granted, it doesn't seem appropriate to rate any game that way, but MMOs especially.

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#21 ConanTheStoner
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MMOs don't count tho.

jk, but yeah, not interested.

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Its such a shame that blizzard fans are so easy to manipulate. Its beyond me how they can be willing to pay a monthly subscription fee for something that so heavily outdated and mediocre like wow.

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#23 Dakur
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@cainetao11 said:
@speedfog said:
@dakur said:

Forza Horizon 3, Xcom 2, WoW, Fifa17, NBA2K17 all recently received 9s. Is Gamespot turning into 9GN?

No, those are good games.

LOL maybe some are under the impression our opinions should be factored into Gamespot employees review score somehow.

I would venture to say that that's indeed quite ridiculous but you're not taking into account that some of us have opinions that are facts. TLHBO.

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@thepclovingguy said:

Its such a shame that blizzard fans are so easy to manipulate. Its beyond me how they can be willing to pay a monthly subscription fee for something that so heavily outdated and mediocre like wow.

Same way games like DoTA/LoL are "incredibly outdated".

Same way Counter-strike is "Incredibly outdated"

What does outdated even mean in the world of gaming beyond tech/graphics used? innovation in gameplay mechanics is not always best for the genre. You don't see revisions of friggin Chess do you?

You say its outdated, but there is still no other MMO with a PROPER designed end-game like WoW's ... the smooth/fluid combat that makes large scale, hell even normal party content just flat out better than the competition.

I'm still waiting to see your magic list of "better MMOs" honestly... the only one that even came close to capturing WoW's gameplay spirit was that Sci Fi one ... which died off because it was "too hardcore" (cant even remember its name now.)

Guild Wars 2? pathetic shell.

FF14 - WoW wannabe cut down but lots of makeup.

ESO? LOL.

None of these pretenders have captured the core gameplay "x factor" ... they can add as many engine/tech based features and enhancements, without this, they all meet the same end and irrelevance.

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#25 cainetao11
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@dakur said:
@cainetao11 said:
@speedfog said:
@dakur said:

Forza Horizon 3, Xcom 2, WoW, Fifa17, NBA2K17 all recently received 9s. Is Gamespot turning into 9GN?

No, those are good games.

LOL maybe some are under the impression our opinions should be factored into Gamespot employees review score somehow.

I would venture to say that that's indeed quite ridiculous but you're not taking into account that some of us have opinions that are facts. TLHBO.

You are a special needs child then. There is no such thing as an opinion (a hypothesis) which is at the same time a fact (Proven).

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#26 kvally
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Bummer to hear that it flopped. Oh well.

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@MBirdy88: I'm actually looking forward to Civ 6. Enjoyed 5 a lot! :D Not sure if I'll get it day 1 though. Will probably get it near Christmas.

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#28 MonsieurX
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@kvally said:

Bummer to hear that it flopped. Oh well.

Because it was hyped AAAAE?

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#29 kvally
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@MonsieurX: yup

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#30 Sollet
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Best expansion to date! Well deserved!

Having a blast again in wow :D

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#31 MonsieurX
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@kvally said:

@MonsieurX: yup

Where\who?

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#32  Edited By Pittfan666
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Can't do a review on a WoW expansion without talking about PVP or PVE content. I personally got bored with trade chat simulator back in Cataclysm and Pandaria when there was no content to play.

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#33  Edited By thepclovingguy
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@MBirdy88 said:
@thepclovingguy said:

Its such a shame that blizzard fans are so easy to manipulate. Its beyond me how they can be willing to pay a monthly subscription fee for something that so heavily outdated and mediocre like wow.

Same way games like DoTA/LoL are "incredibly outdated".

Same way Counter-strike is "Incredibly outdated"

What does outdated even mean in the world of gaming beyond tech/graphics used? innovation in gameplay mechanics is not always best for the genre. You don't see revisions of friggin Chess do you?

You say its outdated, but there is still no other MMO with a PROPER designed end-game like WoW's ... the smooth/fluid combat that makes large scale, hell even normal party content just flat out better than the competition.

I'm still waiting to see your magic list of "better MMOs" honestly... the only one that even came close to capturing WoW's gameplay spirit was that Sci Fi one ... which died off because it was "too hardcore" (cant even remember its name now.)

Guild Wars 2? pathetic shell.

FF14 - WoW wannabe cut down but lots of makeup.

ESO? LOL.

None of these pretenders have captured the core gameplay "x factor" ... they can add as many engine/tech based features and enhancements, without this, they all meet the same end and irrelevance.

Just because other games are shittier, doesn't turn this shit into gold. World of Warcraft is heavily outdated both in terms of gameplay and visual. Blizzard should stop milking their stupid fanbase and create something new instead.

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#34 Heil68
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Good score. I tried trial and couldnt make it through the 2 weeks

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#35 oflow
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@thepclovingguy: Visuals? Maybe. Progression system? Probably. But gameplay mechanics? Wow is still miles ahead of the nearest comp.

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#36  Edited By SolidTy
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I remember when WOW was brand new, and while I tried various expansions and played MMOs before WOW existed like Evercrack...I learned over time that MMOs aren't for me. Too much of a time sink and I have too many game systems to bother.

@MBirdy88 said:

Can't believe a 12 year old game still outclasses 99% of games to this day.

But there are games that got 9.5 and 10s...

Also, you're thread isn't clear.

The original WOW released in 2004 which to some users they may think you are referring to that classic game as there is no indication otherwise.

If your thread is about the recent expansion, it's called Legion.

There is no link in your OP either. The title and OP indicate you are talking about WOW from 2004.

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#37  Edited By thepclovingguy
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@oflow said:

@thepclovingguy: Visuals? Maybe. Progression system? Probably. But gameplay mechanics? Wow is still miles ahead of the nearest comp.

Being ahead of garbage isn't that great.

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#38 kvally
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@MonsieurX: internet/gamer

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#39 Zaryia
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Legion is amazing.

I think PCs high scoring count is now almost double the 2nd best systems here at GS. And Civ is next month, lol it won't stop.

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#40  Edited By MonsieurX
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@kvally said:

@MonsieurX: internet/gamer

Cool.

I guess if at least 1 dude hyped it AAAAE,I guess it's a flop.

Sucks that the X1 only has flops then

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#41 kvally
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@MonsieurX said:
@kvally said:

@MonsieurX: internet/gamer

Cool.

I guess if at least 1 dude hyped it AAAAE,I guess it's a flop.

Sucks that the X1 only has flops then

Agreed. X1 and PS4 are flop machines. 100% flopdom.

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#42 AzatiS
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@GarGx1 said:
@cainetao11 said:

I hope those that play it, enjoy it thoroughly. Not my type of game.

Have you been at the happy pills again?

So he is on pills , i wonder when he started those ! hahaha !

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#43  Edited By AzatiS
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We like WoW/Legion or not , we have to give a kudos to Blizzard for providing yet another good expansion. The fact that WoW is still number one mmorpg after so long ( sales , subs etc ) is a feat of epic proposions.

And before someone think im one of those idiotic blizzboys praising every shit blizzard is making i have to say to you that im one of the most harsh Blizzard critics around. But what is right , is right.

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#44 cainetao11
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@AzatiS said:
@GarGx1 said:
@cainetao11 said:

I hope those that play it, enjoy it thoroughly. Not my type of game.

Have you been at the happy pills again?

So he is on pills , i wonder when he started those ! hahaha !

HAHAHAHAHA Yep, you been triggered HAHAHAHAHA on a little warpath now HAHAHAHA

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#45  Edited By lamprey263  Online
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I'm too afraid if I get into a grindy subscription based MMORPG that I'll play that and only that. I like playing other games too much to let that happen. It's not that I don't think I won't like it, I'm afraid I'd like it too much.

Heck, I'm almost too afraid to fire up Destiny for this very reason. It's so hard to put down it ruins me from playing anything else.

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#46  Edited By AzatiS
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@cainetao11 said:
@AzatiS said:
@GarGx1 said:
@cainetao11 said:

I hope those that play it, enjoy it thoroughly. Not my type of game.

Have you been at the happy pills again?

So he is on pills , i wonder when he started those ! hahaha !

HAHAHAHAHA Yep, you been triggered HAHAHAHAHA on a little warpath now HAHAHAHA

Yeah , im so triggered that im going to take your pills as well. What a funny dude. ( I got your meltdown on quote dont forget lol )

The grudge is real hahahaha ! I got into you thaaat much bro ? Whatever you do , theres no way for you to make things even ! Try harder.

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#47 cainetao11
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@AzatiS said:
@cainetao11 said:
@AzatiS said:
@GarGx1 said:
@cainetao11 said:

I hope those that play it, enjoy it thoroughly. Not my type of game.

Have you been at the happy pills again?

So he is on pills , i wonder when he started those ! hahaha !

HAHAHAHAHA Yep, you been triggered HAHAHAHAHA on a little warpath now HAHAHAHA

Yeah , im so triggered that im going to take your pills as well. What a funny dude. ( I got your meltdown on quote dont forget lol )

The grudge is real hahahaha ! I got into you thaaat much bro ? Whatever you do , theres no way for you to make things even ! Try harder.

LMAO you're the one jumping into my conversations in other threads. Yep, triggered. I'm taking up space in your head

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#48  Edited By AzatiS
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@cainetao11 said:
@AzatiS said:
@cainetao11 said:
@AzatiS said:

So he is on pills , i wonder when he started those ! hahaha !

HAHAHAHAHA Yep, you been triggered HAHAHAHAHA on a little warpath now HAHAHAHA

Yeah , im so triggered that im going to take your pills as well. What a funny dude. ( I got your meltdown on quote dont forget lol )

The grudge is real hahahaha ! I got into you thaaat much bro ? Whatever you do , theres no way for you to make things even ! Try harder.

LMAO you're the one jumping into my conversations in other threads. Yep, triggered. I'm taking up space in your head

You accussed me of that before yet you are the one jumping on me here ! But its ok , i can understand why you want to make things even but ... try harder. Calling me a cow without any proofs just psychotic "HAHAHAHAHA" clearly proves my point of you being butthurted since that last epic meltdown of yours. But its ok , i understand how it goes.

Keep trying , im not a sissy , i never was. Im here to answer all your questions , i can handle. Take your shots !

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#50  Edited By Maroxad
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@MBirdy88 said:
@thepclovingguy said:

Its such a shame that blizzard fans are so easy to manipulate. Its beyond me how they can be willing to pay a monthly subscription fee for something that so heavily outdated and mediocre like wow.

Same way games like DoTA/LoL are "incredibly outdated".

Same way Counter-strike is "Incredibly outdated"

What does outdated even mean in the world of gaming beyond tech/graphics used? innovation in gameplay mechanics is not always best for the genre. You don't see revisions of friggin Chess do you?

You say its outdated, but there is still no other MMO with a PROPER designed end-game like WoW's ... the smooth/fluid combat that makes large scale, hell even normal party content just flat out better than the competition.

I'm still waiting to see your magic list of "better MMOs" honestly... the only one that even came close to capturing WoW's gameplay spirit was that Sci Fi one ... which died off because it was "too hardcore" (cant even remember its name now.)

Guild Wars 2? pathetic shell.

FF14 - WoW wannabe cut down but lots of makeup.

ESO? LOL.

None of these pretenders have captured the core gameplay "x factor" ... they can add as many engine/tech based features and enhancements, without this, they all meet the same end and irrelevance.

Problem is that MMO's are pretty crappily made to be honest, especially themepark mmos which dont even take advantage of the Massively Multiplayer bit. The gunplay in Counterstrike, has a surprisingly high skill ceiling, allows for competitive play, tests your reflexes, and may even have you adapt and outmaneouver the enemy. None of which is scripted. The combat in Dota, similarily works very well with the rest of the game's design, is surprisingly well balanced, benefits from superb variety. And there is never one optimal way to play. Both of those games hold up well, not only to competing games in the same genre, but also competing games outside their genre.

WoW and the rest of the mmorpg genre does not. The PvP in WoW is a complete joke. The end-game is a mindless grind when doing stuff outside dungeons with little skill involvement, and the stuff in the dungeons, where skill actually matters, is more along the lines of reacting in a specific way and using skills in a specific order (with some leeway with cooldown usage). The rotations are essentially guitar hero with procs and cooldowns and the bosses are a shopping list. It doesnt give you a lot of choice or flexibility in how you play, and the mechanics themselves, especially for the vast majority of players, discourage experimentation. The classes are mostly the same now, since everyone is rigorously shoehorned into dps, tank or healer. A trinity system which in itself is VERY counterproductive towards tactics. The tank de-emphasizes positioning and the healer essentially adds leeway to player mistakes, and minimizes attrition.

Guild Wars 2 was a good direction for the genre to go in, but the execution and some pretty boneheaded decisions held the whole thing back.