Will the next generation of gamers remember a good Nintendo?

Everybody in the industry still thinks fondly of Nintendo produced games. They just need to release more appealing hardware and get their policies in order.

I'm not sure I'd say that, but I definitely think the two Galaxy games are the best things they ever produced.

They dont have the same impact though , actually not even close.

Agreed.

Nintendo's first party games are at an all time high in quality right now, but the hardware is behind and that keeps some people away. I also feel some of Nintendo's strongest games recently (Pikmin 3 and Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze) may alienate younger players because to truly enjoy them, you have to put in a lot of time and skill, however, their easy entry levels might be enough.

Everybody in the industry but not everybody in gaming community . New era of gamers ( youngsters ) actually seems to not even care like we used to in ours about Nintendo , console wise even .

... Well seeing as back in the NES and SNES era they literally dominated the market with only one real rival (sega during the SNES phase).. No single company is going to dominate the market like that again..

1000% Spot on, man.

No they will not. NES and SNES were awesome!

That's an aspect of them having poor selling hardware to deliver their highly popular properties. Look back at the Wii as an example. Even the Gamcube had a few Nintendo games selling over 5 million units. They are not significantly less popular now than they have been consistently for the last 25 years. There are ups and downs yes but you seem to be underselling them. The company consistently releases 5 million + sellers. What else are they suppose to do?

Agreed.

If we take into consideration though that Wii sold that good for entirely other reasons than actually its exclusives , which some of them were fantastic , when Wii U with the very same high quality N 1st party titles cant push sales ...

Something is really wrong and i guess it has to do with the fact that newcomers in gaming dont care or bother with Nintendo like we used to 15-20+ years ago. So to say that Nintendo is a lot better now... in my opinion , its not even close to what i beleive , console wise at least.

Nintendo is still good, just only in regards to their handhelds. When it comes to home consoles they are a lost cause. They just can't understand that all we want is a quality console without unnecessary gimmicks. They think that their exclusive games alone can drive enough console sales to win a generation, when in reality the demand for Nintendo games isn't as high as a lot of third party franchises.

Nintendo will never become as great as they once were as long as Iwata is still in charge.

I never owned the SNES before 2008, i don't feel nostalgic about anything on it :P. I've been playing around with it for quite a wile now. I'm currently collecting a PAL set, albeit painstakingly slow with a few reproduction carts thrown in as alternatives to ridiculously expensive games. Took some stabs at some jp imports, though that's another story.

I think it's easily the greatest console of all times because of the sheer size and diversity of its library of games that are not only fun to play, but will always 'age well' unlike 3D games. Not just because of the graphics which are a vibrant shower of gorgeous pixel art, but because 2D is eternal in terms of how simple it is to get into and immediately control.

To each their own, i think the Gamecube is a great console. But i think the SNES dwarfs it completely.

And that's excluding antiqued relics like Mario Kart, F-Zero and Star Fox (sorry Nintendo fans, but they were a waste to me. Unplayable, ugly, choppy and hopelessly outdated by their sequel(s) ), or worthless arcade ports like Knight of the Round and Street Fighter II, which i can play on MAME, in its infinitely superior arcade form. I'm not even going to mention sports games or puzzle games, lmao.

Their handhelds are every bit as underpowered and gimmicky as their consoles. The handhelds do sell much better, though I believe that has more to do with the price point than quality. The Vita should easily be able to stomp the 3DS. Sony just abandoned it prematurely and the 3rd party support that the PSP got doesn't seem to be coming anytime soon.

Neither do their competitors really. One or two companies won't rule gaming. Too many well established (sub)genres, too much money, too many people who know what they are doing now.

I picked mine up after the gen, too. I was a SEGA gamer back then. I do believe the SNES had more quality titles than the Genesis, mostly due to the Megaman X series. I also really like Super Punch Out, Super Metroid, and Earthbound. I guess I just haven't found a whole lot of fantastic games on it, though. Like you mentioned, Star Fox is unplayable now. I picked up F-Zero for 99 cents on the Wii U and would like the dollar back. Even A Link to the Past, a game that I thought was very good, is hopelessly overrated. I just don't see how the library compares to the likes of Wind Waker, Mario Sunshine, F-Zero GX, Mario Kart Double Dash, Splinter Cell, Freedom Fighters, Killer 7, Viewtiful Joe, Resident Evil 4, Metal Gear Solid Twin Snakes, Metroid Prime, Fire Emblem Path of Radiance, Pikmin, Battalion Wars, Timesplitters 2, Rogue Squadron, Paper Mario TTYD, Luigi's Mansion, Soul Calibur 2, Beyond Good and Evil, The Sands of Time trilogy, Super Smash Bros Melee, etc.

Sure they will. My kids have grown up with the DS's and the Wii's, and they love Mario and all Nintendo brings to the table...thought I doubt they care about the "Nintendo brand" persay. The only people who look down on Nintendo are those gameers who are completely enthralled in the Console war, or just a war to prove that they are the "best" gamer. My kids (and myself as well) just want to play fun games and have fun gaming, and I imagine there are many others out there in a similar situation as myself.

About Link to the Past, i think that game is pure, unadulterated fun poured into a bottle. It's solid as a rock, and whether it's overrated or not is up to opinion.. I don't know, you can make a great argument about how it's been surpassed, and i'd tend to agree. But that doesn't mean that it's not worth playing.

Hmm, i can help you out there. I'll skip the obvious like Final Fantasy 6, Chrono Trigger, Yoshi's Island and many more, and heartwarmingly recommend Terranigma, Lufia II: Rise of the Sinistrals, Seiken Densetsu 3, Dragon Quest III Remake, Romancing SaGa 3, Star Ocean (if you don't have a PSP), Bahamut Lagoon, Super Turrican 1 & 2, Demon's Crest, Pop'n Twinbee, The Firemen (unappealing title, but top notch quality game that's both unique and addictive), Rockman & Forte, Fire Emblem: Genealogy of the Holy War, Ganbare Goemon 2, Jikkyō Oshaberi Parodius, Gundam Wing: Endless Duel, SDF Macross: Scrambled Valkyrie and Marvelous: Mōhitotsu no Takarajima. For starters.

I know that they may sound like no-name filler material, but they're not. They're actually the cream of the crop of what i can think of at the moment, hand picked by me. For example, Marvelous: Mōhitotsu no Takarajima is an action-adventure made by the exact team that developed A Link To The Past. Super Turrican is an amazing action side scroller with tight mechanics and exploration complemented by a fantastic soundtrack. Fire Emblem: Genealogy of the Holy War is a extraordinarily entertaining title with unique features never replicated in future installments, and is the best in the series. And i can go on with praise for each title in this quick list. They're so excellent and polished that each one of them is worth checking out and hunting down, some may be expensive, but that's why repro carts exist.

The SNES is a treasure chest of hidden gems, besides the giant library of known titles that are classics. That's why i think it's the greatest console of all times. Dozens upon dozeons of excellent games left on the system, never to see the light of day. And now is the best time to get into them because it has never been more easy to import, translate and play them.

Uhm.... Its just a console.... Shouldn't you be more concerned about the games ?

They aren't that rare. Shops around here still sell them plus other older consoles.

Thanks for the list. Do I need a Japanese SNES to run most of those games?

I agree that Link to the Past is still a lot of fun, and I can appreciate that it really set the stage for all of the Zelda games to follow it. I used to set it as the gold standard for 2D Zelda, but I think Minish Cap is just better in every way, and I prefer 3D Zelda to 2D Zelda in general. The games are barely even in the same genre, though, so they are difficult to compare.

They aren't that rare currently,might be another story in few years when Poncho gets kids!

That's true.

I've personally tried to go back and play previous gen games and just cant do it. Even PS2/Xbox games seem ancient.

It'll be a few years. Getting married next Friday :P

and a name like Panchotaco, I'll bet you have a large number of kids! :P

I hope not :3 D:

I hope this is the cake

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I feel bad for the upcoming generations. There aren't really any good consoles for younger children other than Nintendo. I'll be picking up a SNES for my kids so they can enjoy gaming the way I enjoyed it when I was their age.

Do it now while you still can find them

They aren't that rare. Shops around here still sell them plus other older consoles.

They aren't that rare currently,might be another story in few years when Poncho gets kids!

It'll be a few years. Getting married next Friday :P

I hope this is the cake

I was thinking more like this:

It even comes with a Miyamoto.

They may not be the industry leader like the snes days but nintendo that made great games never left.

Unless your a old school gamer Nintendo does not even register on console. The playstation has always been the one to get besides the 360 and that was a toss up. Nintendo scored big with the casuals on the wii but they were mostly non-gamers who liked motion. The gamers bought a 360 or ps3 when the price dropped.

People only got wii because they were easy to hack for free games you could play from a hard drive. Pretty much the wii u is a a non-factor most people are not invested in Nintendo ip's so they don't have the rose tinted glasses like the old school guys. You also have the nintendo consoles that are much weaker and lacks features and the online gaming is bad.

Lasty Nintendo has terrible 3rd party support so if you buy their console your pretty much missing out on most of the games of that generation. This makes it a bad choice as a primary console. Nintendo also is very kiddy and even kids like to play what the big boys are playing. Sure you might be ten but you want to play gta5 for example not mario. I mean who the **** plays platformers any more besides old people trapped in the past.

Now it's all about shooting. Nintendo back in the day made goldeneye and perfect dark. Now what do they have crickets memories. The leaders at nintendo are old farts who spend more time on gimmicks than on destroying the comp and that is why they will never win. Nintendo has been broken and they are in bitch mode just looking for a way to submit.

To me, Nintendo was the best developer around in the eight and sixteen-bit era, and they are still the best today. I have been playing their games for about twenty years. That time has flown, but they have kept core philosophies and great minds when it comes to game-making that has assured that they put out high quality titles. I think that some of the best games the company has ever created have come in the last five years, but the same can be said about Nintendo during any gaming era.

It seems the wii helped popularized the idea that "anyone of any age" can play video games. For many people, it probably is, specifically Nintendo that has gotten them into video games.