Will all high budget PC exclusives disappear?

Besides a few strategy games and mmorpgs. (unless next gen consoles have M & KB support)

Apparently Deus Ex HR will be a console port as well. The Witcher 2 and Diablo 3 are likely to get console versions as well, which if successful, will likely mean that future installments in both franchises will release simultaneously on consoles and PC.

Will PC be all about multiplats andlow budget gamesin the future?

Insert: Not sure if serious..

Seriously though.. major logic flaw here. You first state "high budget games" them move on to asking will Pc only be multiplats and flash games..

Lets not even get into trying to disregard genre's.

Insert: Not sure if serious..

Seriously though.. major logic flaw here. You first state "high budget games" them move on to asking will Pc only be multiplats and flash games..

Lets not even get into trying to disregard genre's.

jedikevin2

not high budget games in general. high budget exclusives :|

if there is any genres i ignored tell me and i will fix the op. i can't think of any others.

I hope so. All the best PC games were either low or mid budget anyway. :D And the more chance those have to flourish the betterSkittles_McGee

This.

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Insert: Not sure if serious..

Seriously though.. major logic flaw here. You first state "high budget games" them move on to asking will Pc only be multiplats and flash games..

Lets not even get into trying to disregard genre's.

alfredooo

not high budget games in general. high budget exclusives :|

if there is any genres i ignored tell me and i will fix the op. i can't think of any others.

And again, your logic is not making any sense. You are cutting out a TON of exclusives if your asking will pc be only multiplats and flash games. If you stayed true to just debating "high budget exclusives" (Something that has never been a major part Pc exclusives) then you might be able to make a debate. As of now, your cutting out most PC exclusives to debate will Pc only be multiplats and flash games.

That "pc only be multiplats and flash games" would be far from correct considering how many Pc exclusives release every year on the PC for the last 10+ years.

I hope so. All the best PC games were either low or mid budget anyway. :D And the more chance those have to flourish the betterSkittles_McGee

this would be great. pc gaming should focus more and more on indie games like amnesia and minecraft and leave high budget exclusives to the consoles.

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[QUOTE="jedikevin2"]

Insert: Not sure if serious..

Seriously though.. major logic flaw here. You first state "high budget games" them move on to asking will Pc only be multiplats and flash games..

Lets not even get into trying to disregard genre's.

jedikevin2

not high budget games in general. high budget exclusives :|

if there is any genres i ignored tell me and i will fix the op. i can't think of any others.

And again, your logic is not making any sense. You are cutting out a TON of exclusives if your asking will pc be only multiplats and flash games. If you stayed true to just debating "high budget exclusives" (Something that has never been a major part Pc exclusives) then you might be able to make a debate. As of now, your cutting out most PC exclusives to debate will Pc only be multiplats and flash games.

i meant low budget games in general it just happens that those seem to be more and more dominated by flash games. i will edit the op.

Besides a few strategy games and mmorpgs. (unless next gen consoles have M & KB support)

Apparently Deus Ex HR will be a console port as well. The Witcher 2 and Diablo 3 are likely to get console versions as well, which if successful, will likely mean that future installments in both franchises will release simultaneously on consoles and PC.

Will PC be all about multiplats andlow budget gamesin the future?

alfredooo

Not entirely. There's always going to be some. However I think we're going to see high-budget platform exclusive games becoming very rare on both the PC and on the different consoles. Unless a single platform ends up taking a far bigger market share, right now there's just not a lot of financial reasons to work exclusively on a single platform when the cost most high-budget games is reaching 50-100 million in extreme cases.

For high budget titles, multi-plat games just makes a lot more sense unless the developer is a first party developer.

I would rather play Magicka than Halo; Magicka is a $10 dollar game.

If big budget == halo/gears/uncharted etc, I'll pass and stick to what I consider fun.

Unfortunately console games just don't do it, they frequently are simple rehashes of action with cutscenes in between.

IMO PC games have the required depth to keep someone interested, console games (unless you like Michael Bay movies, which most are very similar to) are a little too linear and scripted with very simple combat to keep someone interested for more than a single play-session.

But .. to each their own.

I would rather play Magicka than Halo; Magicka is a $10 dollar game.

If big budget == halo/gears/uncharted etc, I'll pass and stick to what I consider fun.

Unfortunately console games just don't do it, they frequently are simple rehashes of action with cutscenes in between.

IMO PC games have the required depth to keep someone interested, console games (unless you like Michael Bay movies, which most are very similar to) are a little too linear and scripted with very simple combat to keep someone interested for more than a single play-session.

But .. to each their own.

haberman13

not all console games are like that. i wouldn't expect you to know that tho :P

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I would rather play Magicka than Halo; Magicka is a $10 dollar game.

If big budget == halo/gears/uncharted etc, I'll pass and stick to what I consider fun.

Unfortunately console games just don't do it, they frequently are simple rehashes of action with cutscenes in between.

IMO PC games have the required depth to keep someone interested, console games (unless you like Michael Bay movies, which most are very similar to) are a little too linear and scripted with very simple combat to keep someone interested for more than a single play-session.

But .. to each their own.

alfredooo

not all console games are like that. i wouldn't expect you to know that tho :P

GT5 is awesome IMO!

UC2, which I own, is a decent one time affair. LBP I would also mention as epic.

Other than that ... consoles, tisk tisk, just not up to the task.

edit: ha, actually Angry Joe was arguing for dance games, and I must give credit to consoles for things like that; with friends over and a few brews thats good stuff.

Besides a few strategy games and mmorpgs. (unless next gen consoles have M & KB support)

Apparently Deus Ex HR will be a console port as well. The Witcher 2 and Diablo 3 are likely to get console versions as well, which if successful, will likely mean that future installments in both franchises will release simultaneously on consoles and PC.

Will PC be all about multiplats andlow budget gamesin the future?

alfredooo

You are aware that most of your post is based off rumors right? The title of your thread doesn't even match what you said in your OP :?

[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"]I hope so. All the best PC games were either low or mid budget anyway. :D And the more chance those have to flourish the betteralfredooo

this would be great. pc gaming should focus more and more on indie games like amnesia and minecraft and leave high budget exclusives to the consoles.

I wouldn't mind, as long as we continue to get the best version of games like BF3, Skyrim, etc. on top of those awesome AAA/AA(E) exclusives...low budget or not.

I hope so. All the best PC games were either low or mid budget anyway. :D And the more chance those have to flourish the betterSkittles_McGee

[QUOTE="alfredooo"]

Besides a few strategy games and mmorpgs. (unless next gen consoles have M & KB support)

Apparently Deus Ex HR will be a console port as well. The Witcher 2 and Diablo 3 are likely to get console versions as well, which if successful, will likely mean that future installments in both franchises will release simultaneously on consoles and PC.

Will PC be all about multiplats andlow budget gamesin the future?

lawlessx

You are aware that most of your post is based off rumors right? The title of your thread doesn't even match what you said in your OP :?

I'm not stating this as an absolute fact I'm just looking at current events and coming up with a conclusion. If you disagree, fine I'm open to talk about it. I'm just trying to start a discussion about the future of PC gaming.

And the OP has everything to do with the topic title. I don't know what you are talking about.

No.

As long as developers like Blizzard and Valve exist, there will be high budget PC exclusives.

Also like to add that high budget =/= higher quality. Just so we're all clear on that.

And The Witcher 2 isn't high budget compared to other titles out there.

No.

As long as developers like Blizzard and Valve exist, there will be high budget PC exclusives.

ChubbyGuy40

Or Bioware, SWTOR is rumored to be the most expensive game EVER.

Also, PC gets the best version of most big budget games, save the FEW exclusives on console which are frankly kinda shabby compared to a good PC game.

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

No.

As long as developers like Blizzard and Valve exist, there will be high budget PC exclusives.

haberman13

Or Bioware, SWTOR is rumored to be the most expensive game EVER.

Also, PC gets the best version of most big budget games, save the FEW exclusives on console which are frankly kinda shabby compared to a good PC game.

Bioware can kiss the certain place on a person where the sun doesn't shine. DA2 sucks and ME2 was boring.

But what you say is true.

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[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

No.

As long as developers like Blizzard and Valve exist, there will be high budget PC exclusives.

ChubbyGuy40

Or Bioware, SWTOR is rumored to be the most expensive game EVER.

Also, PC gets the best version of most big budget games, save the FEW exclusives on console which are frankly kinda shabby compared to a good PC game.

Bioware can kiss the certain place on a person where the sun doesn't shine. DA2 sucks and ME2 was boring.

But what you say is true.

So in summation to this argument:

PC gets the best exclusives

PC gets the best version of multiplats

The question then becomes: why play on consoles? Clearly PC is the ONLY logical option.

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[QUOTE="haberman13"]

Or Bioware, SWTOR is rumored to be the most expensive game EVER.

Also, PC gets the best version of most big budget games, save the FEW exclusives on console which are frankly kinda shabby compared to a good PC game.

haberman13

Bioware can kiss the certain place on a person where the sun doesn't shine. DA2 sucks and ME2 was boring.

But what you say is true.

So in summation to this argument:

PC gets the best exclusives

PC gets the best version of multiplats

The question then becomes: why play on consoles? Clearly PC is the ONLY logical option.

Because theres still the Wii! Theres plenty of games I enjoy on there. Except...well...I don't need it anymore :P

Then theres the few good multiplats and exclusives on PS3 that don't make it to PC sadly. KZ3 is a beastly shooter IMO. Would've been a graphical beast and played great on PC.

Then theres all the games on the 360. You know the really good ones like.....oh I give up.

I would rather play Magicka than Halo; Magickais a $10 dollar game.

If big budget == halo/gears/uncharted etc, I'll pass and stick to what I consider fun.

Unfortunately console games just don't do it, they frequently are simple rehashes of action with cutscenes in between.

IMO PC games have the required depth to keep someone interested, console games (unless you like Michael Bay movies, which most are very similar to) are a little too linear and scripted with very simple combat to keep someone interested for more than a single play-session.

But .. to each their own.

haberman13

Wow, you just described Magicka. You should probably use Minecraft as an example of something that isn't like console games, because Magicka sure isn't it.

No.

As long as developers like Blizzard and Valve exist, there will be high budget PC exclusives.

ChubbyGuy40

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

No.

As long as developers like Blizzard and Valve exist, there will be high budget PC exclusives.

Boomshaffted

Half Life 3! :P

Its pretty apparent their games are PC first, console second to just cash in on extra sales. The games play horribly on consoles. While the PC versions get constant updates, addons, downloadable content, ect. I listed them just because. Devs rarely state how much a game costs to make them or I'd list a few more.

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

No.

As long as developers like Blizzard and Valve exist, there will be high budget PC exclusives.

Boomshaffted

Dota 2. Alien Swarm as well, but that isn't really big budget.

[QUOTE="haberman13"]

I would rather play Magicka than Halo; Magickais a $10 dollar game.

If big budget == halo/gears/uncharted etc, I'll pass and stick to what I consider fun.

Unfortunately console games just don't do it, they frequently are simple rehashes of action with cutscenes in between.

IMO PC games have the required depth to keep someone interested, console games (unless you like Michael Bay movies, which most are very similar to) are a little too linear and scripted with very simple combat to keep someone interested for more than a single play-session.

But .. to each their own.

Kickinurass

Wow, you just described Magicka. You should probably use Minecraft as an example of something that isn't like console games, because Magicka sure isn't it.

4 man magicka - more creative depth to combat than anything on console. 99% of console games are point (err, auto-aim) and shoot, run somewhere, watch cutscene, move forward and repeat. The combat is literally click click click click (which can be fun, don't get me wrong!), but for LONG term and sustained "hobby" gaming PC is the only way to go.

I love my PS3, I just don't use it to game very often, what game on PS3 (and not on PC) can replicate Stalker? Or modded Oblivion, Fallout etc.

I'll get KZ3 eventually, but its a 1 shot deal, run through the story and shelf it.

[QUOTE="Boomshaffted"][QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

No.

As long as developers like Blizzard and Valve exist, there will be high budget PC exclusives.

ChubbyGuy40

Half Life 3! :P

Its pretty apparent their games are PC first, console second to just cash in on extra sales. The games play horribly on consoles. While the PC versions get constant updates, addons, downloadable content, ect. I listed them just because. Devs rarely state how much a game costs to make them or I'd list a few more.

[QUOTE="Boomshaffted"][QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

No.

As long as developers like Blizzard and Valve exist, there will be high budget PC exclusives.

hypoty

Dota 2. Alien Swarm as well, but that isn't really big budget.

what are the high budget console exclusive that are not funded by Sony and Microsoft ?John_Read

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[QUOTE="haberman13"]

I would rather play Magicka than Halo; Magickais a $10 dollar game.

If big budget == halo/gears/uncharted etc, I'll pass and stick to what I consider fun.

Unfortunately console games just don't do it, they frequently are simple rehashes of action with cutscenes in between.

IMO PC games have the required depth to keep someone interested, console games (unless you like Michael Bay movies, which most are very similar to) are a little too linear and scripted with very simple combat to keep someone interested for more than a single play-session.

But .. to each their own.

haberman13

Wow, you just described Magicka. You should probably use Minecraft as an example of something that isn't like console games, because Magicka sure isn't it.

4 man magicka - more creative depth to combat than anything on console. 99% of console games are point (err, auto-aim) and shoot, run somewhere, watch cutscene, move forward and repeat. The combat is literally click click click click (which can be fun, don't get me wrong!), but for LONG term and sustained "hobby" gaming PC is the only way to go.

I love my PS3, I just don't use it to game very often, what game on PS3 (and not on PC) can replicate Stalker? Or modded Oblivion, Fallout etc.

I'll get KZ3 eventually, but its a 1 shot deal, run through the story and shelf it.

Again, you just described Magicka. There's nothing complex about the game. You punch in buttons corresponding the the attack you want to use, and click on an enemy (Or general direction of said enemy if you're mixing earth with it) and watch the carnage. The game is easy - I solo'd it with the only tough enemy being Kahn. Everything else is basically a walking target for you to experiment with different elemental combinations.

Honestly most games boil down to click click click - that's not something only the console side. The Witcher's combat is "click, click, click" as was Morrowind (Oh how I loathe the clicking in that game). Most games simply have a poor grasp of combat, on both PC and console. Honestly, Pokemon is much less "Click,click,click" than a fair amount of full fledged games on ANY home system.

Saying that though, I will be trying Dark Messiah soon, after much hearing some people rave about the combat engine.

mhmmm but the fact is the consoles would be nothing without big budget exclusives.

[QUOTE="hypoty"]

[QUOTE="Boomshaffted"] Hrm... What's Valve been making recently that's PC exclusive?Boomshaffted

Dota 2. Alien Swarm as well, but that isn't really big budget.

[QUOTE="Boomshaffted"][QUOTE="hypoty"]

Dota 2. Alien Swarm as well, but that isn't really big budget.

Ragingbear505

[QUOTE="hypoty"]

[QUOTE="Boomshaffted"] Hrm... What's Valve been making recently that's PC exclusive?Boomshaffted

Dota 2. Alien Swarm as well, but that isn't really big budget.

Don't put words in my mouth. Did I say Valve wasn't a multiplatform developer? Please, show me where I said that. I also didn't say their games weren't still awesome, or that I wasn't enthusiastic about their future games. Portal 2 is one of the few games I'm anticipating and yet it's on consoles too. Does it shock you that your baseless predisposition wasn't as accurate as you thought it was? Let's go back to your original question "Hrm... What's Valve been making recently that's PC exclusive?", I answered that politely, I named two games, and then you go and pull an arguement out of thin air, a poor one at that. What did your question have to do with PC gamers' supposed elitism? And better yet, what did my response have to do with it? I also like how you try play down Dota 2 as a 'ported mod'. Don't you think they're going to add a plethora of content to it? A new engine? New maps? New gameplay? Geez, it's starting to sound like a new game! It's one of Valve's major 2011 releases, you can't downplay that. You seemed so eager to jump down my throat you have lost sight of what I was responding to.

[QUOTE="John_Read"]what are the high budget console exclusive that are not funded by Sony and Microsoft ?Boomshaffted

[QUOTE="John_Read"]what are the high budget console exclusive that are not funded by Sony and Microsoft ?Boomshaffted

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

[QUOTE="Boomshaffted"] Hrm... What's Valve been making recently that's PC exclusive?Boomshaffted

Half Life 3! :P

Its pretty apparent their games are PC first, console second to just cash in on extra sales. The games play horribly on consoles. While the PC versions get constant updates, addons, downloadable content, ect. I listed them just because. Devs rarely state how much a game costs to make them or I'd list a few more.

No...no I didn't.

"I listed them just because"

That didn't imply anything. Please don't twist my words. They're the highest respected developer for PC. That is why I listed them. Even then you ignored half the stuff before it.

Diablo III on console? Not likely. Blizzard make great games for PC. You dont see Warcraft III, WOW, Starcraft etc on consoles. For years people have claimed PC gaming is dying, and for years everyone tells them its not. Fact is PC gaming never has been close to dying and never will. Some developers like to increase profits by releasing games on as many systems as they can. You wont see RTS games on console that are better or with as many features as the ones on PC.Rattlesnake_8

[QUOTE="Rattlesnake_8"]Diablo III on console? Not likely. Blizzard make great games for PC. You dont see Warcraft III, WOW, Starcraft etc on consoles. For years people have claimed PC gaming is dying, and for years everyone tells them its not. Fact is PC gaming never has been close to dying and never will. Some developers like to increase profits by releasing games on as many systems as they can. You wont see RTS games on console that are better or with as many features as the ones on PC.mitu123

Both of which sucked and took forever to load.

A PC player would've been able to dominate and smash the console player. ESPECIALLY in SC1.

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

No.

As long as developers like Blizzard and Valve exist, there will be high budget PC exclusives.

Boomshaffted

DOTA 2.

Look sweetheart..

It's because not everyone on earth is equal in the sense of having money and intelligence. You for example seem to be a console gamer. You can't help it not being able to get into PC gaming. Maybe your family is poor, you're doing a low grade education because you simply can't keep up with the normal people in life or just a lazy ugly looking metalhead who noone wants in their company.

I however am coming from an well educated background. Don't live in a suburb like you. Have a decent salary. Am caring for the quality of my life and want to enjoy the best of everything. The problem is tho, people like you are like a pesk for us.

Look I don't have any personal problems, even would greet you when i maybe saw you on the street. But it's clear your kind is dragging gaming down. Because a large group of ( morely dumb americans) is only able to game by a 100$ console the devs also start to catering for them.

Now again, I do not have a problem with that but this system sucks. It's like communism, everyone get's equal, not customizations allowed and you pay taxes to the state ( called DLC in gamingland).

It's just sad to see my gaming experience on PC get's dragged down because a majority of suburb people simply can't keep up and have to be catered to in a different way.

Gauloisess

haha wow :lol:

oh wait. you are serious?

please respond, I can't tell.

You bet I am. But im of to school now. Enjoy sitting in your trailer.