Wii-U won't fail longterm for one very simple reason.

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#51 Posted by Puckhog04 (22814 posts) -

As soon as their first party titles start coming out, sales will pick up just as they did with the 3DS.

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#52 Posted by Puckhog04 (22814 posts) -

In my opinion, you only listed 2-3 good franchises: Pokemon, SSB, and maybe Mario. Everything else is meh or downright boring.SuperNecro

You don't consider Zelda, Donkey Kong, Kirby, and a few of the others great franchises?

Don't as you then, your opinion downright sucks.

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#53 Posted by SuddenlySudden (618 posts) -
^^^LOL HOLY SHIT I THINK I JUST SHUT DOWN THIS THREAD
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#54 Posted by King_Dodongo (3757 posts) -
It still has a chance of being a great console to own. I think Nintendo will drop some bombs at E3 for it. Heil68
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#55 Posted by PAL360 (28947 posts) -

Do you mean just like N64 and GameCube?

Nintendo exclusives are awesome, i agree, but consoles do need third party support to deliver. Other than the Wii, which had a different selling point, i don't think a console can survive without third parties.

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#56 Posted by trollop_scat (2656 posts) -

give me zelda mario and SSB, and that's all I need forever.

vanadiel242424

Good news, you don't even have to spend $350 on a Wii U to play those busted old games. Just go to a used games store and buy an old Super Nes, or Gamecube and you'll be all set. Meanwhile the rest of us will be playing awesome new games like Dark Souls 2 and Fallout 4...

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#57 Posted by StrongBlackVine (13262 posts) -

Wiicube

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#58 Posted by HaRmLeSS_RaGe (1330 posts) -

Wii U mad bro that Mario 64 2 will be the game of the generation :cool:

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#59 Posted by MonsieurX (37212 posts) -

Wii Poop

StrongBlackVine

Wiicube

StrongBlackVine
Are you 12? :|
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#60 Posted by vanadiel242424 (1795 posts) -

What I find funny is people who think people buy nintendo consoles for something OTHER then 1st party games.

 

everybody going into buying a NINTENDO console buys it for 1st party games only. 3rd party = bonus

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#61 Posted by trollop_scat (2656 posts) -

[QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

Wii Poop

MonsieurX

Wiicube

StrongBlackVine

Are you 12? :|

Worse, he's an RE6 fan...

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#62 Posted by mysticstryk (1709 posts) -

Nintendo 1st party didn't do much for the Gamecube.

 

Investors care about profits, and right now the Wii U is making a profit after 1 game is sold, which is almost a guarantee.

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#63 Posted by trollop_scat (2656 posts) -

Nintendo 1st party didn't do much for the Gamecube.

mysticstryk

Gamecube's exclusives are what it the console to have: REmake and Eternal Darkness in particular. Why doesnt Nintendo secure any good M rated exclusives for the Wii U?

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#64 Posted by MFDOOM1983 (8465 posts) -

[QUOTE="mysticstryk"]

Nintendo 1st party didn't do much for the Gamecube.

trollop_scat

Gamecube's exclusives are what it the console to have: REmake and Eternal Darkness in particular. Why doesnt Nintendo secure any good M rated exclusives for the Wii U?

Many of the Nintendo fans I've spoken to believe the poor sales of pretty much every M-Rated game they published has made them reluctant to try again. Granted Bayonetta 2 might be M-Rated.
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#65 Posted by super600 (32423 posts) -

I have a funny feeling the WiiU will recover if ninty handles the console like they are handling 3DS in the long term.

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#66 Posted by ultimate-k (2348 posts) -

I already played them all, so meh.

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#67 Posted by Mrmedia01 (1917 posts) -

Wow these are the same games I have seen since N64.

I guess Nintendo lost all there Idea's 16 years ago.

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#68 Posted by StrongBlackVine (13262 posts) -

I already played them all, so meh.

ultimate-k

Nope rehashed Nintendo shit is still the best.

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#69 Posted by I_can_haz (6511 posts) -

didn't stop the n64 and gamecube from flopping

Sweenix
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#70 Posted by Puckhog04 (22814 posts) -

nintendo is also super rich. They will prop up this turd for a long time. Look what they did with the 3DS.GunSmith1_basic

The 3DS started selling incredibly well after their 1st party titles started coming out. That of which could happen with the Wii U as well. For now, it's not selling TERRIBLY...but it certainly could be selling alot better. Only time will tell what happens.

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#71 Posted by Puckhog04 (22814 posts) -

[QUOTE="Sweenix"]

didn't stop the n64 and gamecube from flopping

gameboy343



nintendo 64 flopped? i don't think i have met a person around my age that didn't own one.

As far as I remember, the N64 was producing and making games for roughly 5 years so...yea. I think people throw around the "flop" statement very loosely...and stupidly if I might add.

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#72 Posted by mariokart64fan (20688 posts) -

there is a pokemon coming to wii u ,    that said , ,tc is very right ,   in terms of profitability it wont fail and it will probably sell through 50 m -75 m plus  just look at ps3 ,  for example 

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#73 Posted by mariokart64fan (20688 posts) -

Nintendo 1st party didn't do much for the Gamecube.

 

Investors care about profits, and right now the Wii U is making a profit after 1 game is sold, which is almost a guarantee.

mysticstryk

well xbox wasnt to far ahead either

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#74 Posted by SuddenlySudden (618 posts) -

[QUOTE="vanadiel242424"]

They have the best exclusives period, 1st party > 3rd party.

Zelda

mario

ssb

kirby

metrod

yoshi

pokemon

donkey kong

starfox

How can you honestly compete with that? sorry but nintendo has been around for decades BECAUSE of the 1st party, they don't need 3rd party games.

Everybody I know, including myself bought the wii-U for one reason, and one reason only. 1st party games.

 

give me zelda mario and SSB, and that's all I need forever.

SuddenlySudden

lol it's funny before I clicked the thread I already knew what reasons you'd list and for that alone the WIIU already failed. The WiiU is already a failure and will continue to be a failure because we now KNOW for a fact that the only thing that drives nintendo is nostalgia and milked titles, because without these titles their fans don't want to look at them.Nintendo can make ten mario games for the wii U that scrore perfect 10/10 and it wouldn't make any difference anymore. Anything they do at this point is going to go back to the stupid argument of nintendo being only for kids or for Mario lovers and for nostalgia and milked titles. Ezverything nintendo can do to save the Wii is only going to prove that point

 

SHEEP+NINTENDO=OWNED

THIS THREAD SHOULD HAVE ENDED HERE Sheep you should just drop out and resign from system wars. Or merge with hermits, cows or lems.
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#75 Posted by SuddenlySudden (618 posts) -
[QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

Wii Poop

MonsieurX

Wiicube

StrongBlackVine
Are you 12? :|

before you ask someone if they're 12 you should ask yourself why you're on the internet arguing with a 12 year old if you're sooo mature
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#76 Posted by NathanDrakeSwag (11361 posts) -

Wiiu will fail just like the Gamecube did. Nobody cares about their 1980s baby boomer cartoon lineup anymore.

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#77 Posted by Shielder7 (5191 posts) -

They have the most nostalgia exclusives period, 1st party & 3rd party. vanadiel242424

Fixed.

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#78 Posted by GunSmith1_basic (10546 posts) -
nintendo is also super rich. They will prop up this turd for a long time. Look what they did with the 3DS.
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#79 Posted by gameboy343 (1024 posts) -

didn't stop the n64 and gamecube from flopping

Sweenix



nintendo 64 flopped? i don't think i have met a person around my age that didn't own one. 

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#80 Posted by whiskeystrike (12172 posts) -

It's generally understood that Nintendo systems are primarily for Nintendo games. That doesn't invalidate criticism of their platforms or gurantees their success and it seems the fanbase isn't completely behind the Wii U anyways.

It would be awesome if Nintendo could garner the level of Japanese support that they get on their handhelds. Systems that still have stellar libraries considering the third party support it gets.

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#81 Posted by DenaliStrat1020 (25 posts) -

In my opinion, having a PC, a 3DS XL and a Wii U is more than enough selection for me. I also have a PS3 on hand for Sony exclusives. It all comes down to personal preference. Why am I in System Wars again?

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#82 Posted by chocolate1325 (33009 posts) -

That isn't a goodd reason because you can't always rely on those franchise to bail you out and the only ones I care about is Mario,Zelda,Metroid and Smash Bros and do you really think Star Fox will return.

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#83 Posted by LustForSoul (6404 posts) -
What makes you think games like starfox and donkey kong will sell well? Those franchises had like one hit and are really old. Pokemon and starfox will never make it to the WiiU btw.
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#84 Posted by moistsandwich (25 posts) -

[QUOTE="vanadiel242424"]

They have the best exclusives period, 1st party > 3rd party.

Zelda

mario

ssb

kirby

metrod

yoshi

pokemon

donkey kong

starfox

How can you honestly compete with that? sorry but nintendo has been around for decades BECAUSE of the 1st party, they don't need 3rd party games.

Everybody I know, including myself bought the wii-U for one reason, and one reason only. 1st party games.

give me zelda mario and SSB, and that's all I need forever.

Rattlesnake_8

I'd rather play: Tomb Raider Bioshock GTA Watch Dogs Battlefield 4 The Last of Us and many other amazing games coming out this year that aren't on the Wii U.

I'd rather be able to play them ALL.... Oh wait... I CAN, because I'm not a fanboy idiot.

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#85 Posted by getyeryayasout (11575 posts) -
I don't know anyone who owns a WiiU.
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#86 Posted by nintendoboy16 (34352 posts) -

[QUOTE="gameboy343"]

[QUOTE="Sweenix"]

didn't stop the n64 and gamecube from flopping

Puckhog04



nintendo 64 flopped? i don't think i have met a person around my age that didn't own one.

As far as I remember, the N64 was producing and making games for roughly 5 years so...yea. I think people throw around the "flop" statement very loosely...and stupidly if I might add.

It was a flop compared to the SNES and considering a lot of people back then got tired of what Nintendo was doing as a result (thus, adding more to the PlayStation's popularity).

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#87 Posted by clone01 (27117 posts) -

Gamecube was considered a failure by many- I wouldn't exactly call it a success, myself. Apparently 1st party didn't save it :o

I've noticed that aside from the Wii's early fad, Nintendo seems to do poorly in consoles but really well in handheld. 

simomate
What???? The NES and SNES were hugely successful.
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#88 Posted by super600 (32423 posts) -

[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

Obviously we are talking about N64 and Gamecube flops....Wii U is on a similar course.

StrongBlackVine

Please stop assuming things. No one knows what will happen in the next 12 months for any next gen consoles. All three consoles futures will be decided by how high the consumer demand for all three will be in the future. The consumer demand for the WiiU will increase if ninty fixes the problems that are plauging the console currently. The consumer demand for the other two will depend on the price of those two. If the price for those two are out of the price range any consumer is willing to pay for those products both consoles will struggle to sell. Things like the rumored suscription plan for the 720 may get more 720's into people houses if the subscription plan is reasonable. If both the 720 and PS4 launch close to each other they will destroy each other potential to sell out if consumers can't get both of them. Also, if the launch titles are horrible for either of those two they will struggle.

How will Nintendo fix lack of 3rd party support and last generation visuals? I guess you are saying just wait til Mario, Zelda etc?

For the first one ninty can try to make deals with small developers(i.e indie devs) and mid-tier publishers like what they are doing right now with some Japanese developers/publishers.And who cares if the console is weak. If the games produced for a console are fun and intreresting people will buy the console like what happened with the Wii when it launched with Wii sports.Only the hardcore gamers mostly care about graphics on a console.

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#89 Posted by super600 (32423 posts) -

[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

How will Nintendo fix lack of 3rd party support and last generation visuals? I guess you are saying just wait til Mario, Zelda etc?

StrongBlackVine

For the first one ninty can try to make deals with small developers(i.e indie devs) and mid-tier publishers like what they are doing right now with some Japanese developers/publishers.And who cares if the console is weak. If the games produced for a console are fun and intreresting people will buy the console like what happened with the Wii when it launched with Wii sports.Only the hardcore gamers mostly care about graphics on a console.

Why do people keep using the Wii as some as example of what the Wii U can become? The Wii was the biggest fluke in gaming history.

People thought Wii sports was fun and bought the console.The closest we have to Wii sports is nintendoland,but if more people hear about nintendoland they will buy it.

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#90 Posted by StrongBlackVine (13262 posts) -

[QUOTE="Rattlesnake_8"][QUOTE="vanadiel242424"]

They have the best exclusives period, 1st party > 3rd party.

Zelda

mario

ssb

kirby

metrod

yoshi

pokemon

donkey kong

starfox

How can you honestly compete with that? sorry but nintendo has been around for decades BECAUSE of the 1st party, they don't need 3rd party games.

Everybody I know, including myself bought the wii-U for one reason, and one reason only. 1st party games.

 

give me zelda mario and SSB, and that's all I need forever.

moistsandwich

I'd rather play: Tomb Raider Bioshock GTA Watch Dogs Battlefield 4 The Last of Us and many other amazing games coming out this year that aren't on the Wii U.

I'd rather be able to play them ALL.... Oh wait... I CAN, because I'm not a fanboy idiot.

Most people don't have time to play everything or have no desire to do so...

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#91 Posted by StrongBlackVine (13262 posts) -

[QUOTE="simomate"]

Gamecube was considered a failure by many- I wouldn't exactly call it a success, myself. Apparently 1st party didn't save it :o

I've noticed that aside from the Wii's early fad, Nintendo seems to do poorly in consoles but really well in handheld. 

clone01

What???? The NES and SNES were hugely successful.

Obviously we are talking about N64 and Gamecube flops....Wii U is on a similar course.

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#92 Posted by super600 (32423 posts) -

[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="simomate"]

Gamecube was considered a failure by many- I wouldn't exactly call it a success, myself. Apparently 1st party didn't save it :o

I've noticed that aside from the Wii's early fad, Nintendo seems to do poorly in consoles but really well in handheld. 

StrongBlackVine

What???? The NES and SNES were hugely successful.

Obviously we are talking about N64 and Gamecube flops....Wii U is on a similar course.

Please stop assuming things. No one knows what will happen in the next 12 months for any next gen consoles. All three consoles futures will be decided by how high the consumer demand for all three will be in the future. The consumer demand for the WiiU will increase if ninty fixes the problems that are plauging the console currently. The consumer demand for the other two will depend on the price of those two. If the price for those two are out of the price range any consumer is willing to pay for those products both consoles will struggle to sell. Things like the rumored suscription plan for the 720 may get more 720's into people houses if the subscription plan is reasonable. If both the 720 and PS4 launch close to each other they will destroy each other potential to sell out if consumers can't get both of them. Also, if the launch titles are horrible for either of those two they will struggle.

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#93 Posted by StrongBlackVine (13262 posts) -

[QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

[QUOTE="clone01"] What???? The NES and SNES were hugely successful.super600

Obviously we are talking about N64 and Gamecube flops....Wii U is on a similar course.

Please stop assuming things. No one knows what will happen in the next 12 months for any next gen consoles. All three consoles futures will be decided by how high the consumer demand for all three will be in the future. The consumer demand for the WiiU will increase if ninty fixes the problems that are plauging the console currently. The consumer demand for the other two will depend on the price of those two. If the price for those two are out of the price range any consumer is willing to pay for those products both consoles will struggle to sell. Things like the rumored suscription plan for the 720 may get more 720's into people houses if the subscription plan is reasonable. If both the 720 and PS4 launch close to each other they will destroy each other potential to sell out if consumers can't get both of them. Also, if the launch titles are horrible for either of those two they will struggle.

How will Nintendo fix lack of 3rd party support and last generation visuals? I guess you are saying just wait til Mario, Zelda etc?

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#94 Posted by StrongBlackVine (13262 posts) -

[QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

[QUOTE="super600"]

Please stop assuming things. No one knows what will happen in the next 12 months for any next gen consoles. All three consoles futures will be decided by how high the consumer demand for all three will be in the future. The consumer demand for the WiiU will increase if ninty fixes the problems that are plauging the console currently. The consumer demand for the other two will depend on the price of those two. If the price for those two are out of the price range any consumer is willing to pay for those products both consoles will struggle to sell. Things like the rumored suscription plan for the 720 may get more 720's into people houses if the subscription plan is reasonable. If both the 720 and PS4 launch close to each other they will destroy each other potential to sell out if consumers can't get both of them. Also, if the launch titles are horrible for either of those two they will struggle.

super600

How will Nintendo fix lack of 3rd party support and last generation visuals? I guess you are saying just wait til Mario, Zelda etc?

For the first one ninty can try to make deals with small developers(i.e indie devs) and mid-tier publishers like what they are doing right now with some Japanese developers/publishers.And who cares if the console is weak. If the games produced for a console are fun and intreresting people will buy the console like what happened with the Wii when it launched with Wii sports.Only the hardcore gamers mostly care about graphics on a console.

Why do people keep using the Wii as some as example of what the Wii U can become? The Wii was the biggest fluke in gaming history.

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#95 Posted by MonsieurX (37212 posts) -

[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

Obviously we are talking about N64 and Gamecube flops....Wii U is on a similar course.

StrongBlackVine

Please stop assuming things. No one knows what will happen in the next 12 months for any next gen consoles. All three consoles futures will be decided by how high the consumer demand for all three will be in the future. The consumer demand for the WiiU will increase if ninty fixes the problems that are plauging the console currently. The consumer demand for the other two will depend on the price of those two. If the price for those two are out of the price range any consumer is willing to pay for those products both consoles will struggle to sell. Things like the rumored suscription plan for the 720 may get more 720's into people houses if the subscription plan is reasonable. If both the 720 and PS4 launch close to each other they will destroy each other potential to sell out if consumers can't get both of them. Also, if the launch titles are horrible for either of those two they will struggle.

How will Nintendo fix lack of 3rd party support and last generation visuals? I guess you are saying just wait til Mario, Zelda etc?

Why bother with visuals? Get a PC,not a console :lol:
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#96 Posted by HaRmLeSS_RaGe (1330 posts) -

Mario 64 2 will make the Wii U the greatest machine in console history. I believe in you Nintendo :oops:

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#97 Posted by StrongBlackVine (13262 posts) -

[QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

[QUOTE="super600"]

Please stop assuming things. No one knows what will happen in the next 12 months for any next gen consoles. All three consoles futures will be decided by how high the consumer demand for all three will be in the future. The consumer demand for the WiiU will increase if ninty fixes the problems that are plauging the console currently. The consumer demand for the other two will depend on the price of those two. If the price for those two are out of the price range any consumer is willing to pay for those products both consoles will struggle to sell. Things like the rumored suscription plan for the 720 may get more 720's into people houses if the subscription plan is reasonable. If both the 720 and PS4 launch close to each other they will destroy each other potential to sell out if consumers can't get both of them. Also, if the launch titles are horrible for either of those two they will struggle.

MonsieurX

How will Nintendo fix lack of 3rd party support and last generation visuals? I guess you are saying just wait til Mario, Zelda etc?

Why bother with visuals? Get a PC,not a console :lol:

I will get another PC eventually, but for most people a high end gaming rig is not an attractive option for lots of reason. Therefore conosle graphics do matter, but you knew that already.

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#98 Posted by super600 (32423 posts) -

[QUOTE="MonsieurX"][QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

How will Nintendo fix lack of 3rd party support and last generation visuals? I guess you are saying just wait til Mario, Zelda etc?

StrongBlackVine

Why bother with visuals? Get a PC,not a console :lol:

I will get another PC eventually, but for most people a high end gaming rig is not an attractive option for lots of reason. Therefore conosle graphics do matter, but you knew that already.

Graphics don't matter if the game is not fun(i.e Crysis 2 and 3 and maybe the killzone franchise)

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#99 Posted by StrongBlackVine (13262 posts) -

[QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

[QUOTE="MonsieurX"] Why bother with visuals? Get a PC,not a console :lol:super600

I will get another PC eventually, but for most people a high end gaming rig is not an attractive option for lots of reason. Therefore conosle graphics do matter, but you knew that already.

Graphics don't matter if the game is not fun(i.e Crysis 2 and 3 and maybe the killzone franchise)

What about all the fun games that also have good graphics? I'm not saying that Nintendo games are not fun, but they are not appealing to me.

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#100 Posted by MonsieurX (37212 posts) -

[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

I will get another PC eventually, but for most people a high end gaming rig is not an attractive option for lots of reason. Therefore conosle graphics do matter, but you knew that already.

StrongBlackVine

Graphics don't matter if the game is not fun(i.e Crysis 2 and 3 and maybe the killzone franchise)

What about all the fun games that also have good graphics? I'm not saying that Nintendo games are not fun, but they are not appealing to me.

Teh kiddies games!!11