Why not just officually use Gamerankings for ratings.

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#1 Firelore29
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Ok obviously this is Gamespot so the Gamespot rating is the most important rating.  But why can't we just use Gamerankings as the main rating system?  We would simply not use a Gamerankings rating until the Gamespot rating is posted for a particular game.

All the Lemmings are ticked right now because of Crackdown.  This idea is coming from a Sheep.  I don't know anyone who doesn't think that Gamerankings is a great rating system.  When just one person is rating the game there is simply to much room for personal bias.

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#2 16bitkevin
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I agree. I don't know why SW uses a review of a single person to determine if something is a flop or not.
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#3 BillGreen68
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:cry: Not again. No, we're using gamespot. I don't care who hyped the freaking game. 
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#4 ArisShadows
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I agree. I don't know why SW uses a review of a single person to determine if something is a flop or not.16bitkevin
Lazy to send more than one person to aid to play out a game.
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#5 -Sora
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I dont care, i got owned because i hyped Crackdown AA, but im still gonna buy it because i thought the demo was great
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#6 sdelaney86
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I don't like using GameRankings because different scores mean different things from different sites. Especially when it comes to sites who use a score out of 5 or out of ten, with just integers. For example, a 4 out of 5 from OPM is an 80%, but that means something completely different than an 8.0 on IGN.
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#7 Master_Hermes
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Ok obviously this is Gamespot so the Gamespot rating is the most important rating. But why can't we just use Gamerankings as the main rating system? We would simply not use a Gamerankings rating until the Gamespot rating is posted for a particular game.

All the Lemmings are ticked right now because of Crackdown. This idea is coming from a Sheep. I don't know anyone who doesn't think that Gamerankings is a great rating system. When just one person is rating the game there is simply to much room for personal bias.

Firelore29


I've been saying this for a long time...still, Gamerankings scores initially fluctuate so that will be a problem.
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#8 Spartan4001
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Intelligent people already to use Gamerankings as the true score. To pretend Gamespot's score is the only one that matters is akin to saying President Bush is the only world leader who matters on the international scene.
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#9 16bitkevin
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Intelligent people already to use Gamerankings as the true score. To pretend Gamespot's score is the only one that matters is akin to saying President Bush is the only world leader who matters on the international scene.Spartan4001


Exactly.
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#10 sdelaney86
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Intelligent people already to use Gamerankings as the true score. To pretend Gamespot's score is the only one that matters is akin to saying President Bush is the only world leader who matters on the international scene.Spartan4001
True, but then saying GameRankings is the true score is like saying the rulers of all nations matter equally on the international scene.
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#11 Spartan4001
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[QUOTE="Spartan4001"]Intelligent people already to use Gamerankings as the true score. To pretend Gamespot's score is the only one that matters is akin to saying President Bush is the only world leader who matters on the international scene.sdelaney86
True, but then saying GameRankings is the true score is like saying the rulers of all nations matter equally on the international scene.

Granted, but it's much better than blindly denying the existence of all other information.

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#12 KingOfTaco
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Because Gamerankings sucks. There's absolutely no ground on that site when it comes to comparing games.
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#13 enzogt
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I agree. There should be an official System Wars vote on this. Just like the vote for hyping games.
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#14 sdelaney86
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[QUOTE="sdelaney86"][QUOTE="Spartan4001"]Intelligent people already to use Gamerankings as the true score. To pretend Gamespot's score is the only one that matters is akin to saying President Bush is the only world leader who matters on the international scene.Spartan4001

True, but then saying GameRankings is the true score is like saying the rulers of all nations matter equally on the international scene.

Granted, but it's much better than blindly denying the existence of all other information.

blindly denying the existence of information is the foundation of system wars.
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#15 palaric8
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Intelligent people already to use Gamerankings as the true score. To pretend Gamespot's score is the only one that matters is akin to saying President Bush is the only world leader who matters on the international scene.Spartan4001
bush>7.8
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#16 Firelore29
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Intelligent people already to use Gamerankings as the true score. To pretend Gamespot's score is the only one that matters is akin to saying President Bush is the only world leader who matters on the international scene.Spartan4001

On this site it is.  When a game like Crackdown gets a 7.8 it's a flop.  If it had gotten a 8 it would not have been.  Zelda got an 8.8 if it had gotten a 9 it would not have been.  Warioware got a 9.1 on GS.  It's barely AA on Gamerankings.

All of those games are rated closer to what they really are on Gamerankings.  There are countless examples of that available.

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Intelligent people already to use Gamerankings as the true score. To pretend Gamespot's score is the only one that matters is akin to saying President Bush is the only world leader who matters on the international scene.Spartan4001
It's the only score that matters in SW. It's more akin to how no one outside of Maryland cares that our governer is Martin O'malley.
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#18 Firelore29
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Added a poll.

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#19 16bitkevin
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I just hope no one takes Gamespot's reviews seriously enough to determine whether a game is worth buying or not. I know for a fact that there were some people who decided not to buy TP after it got AA here, even though it got AAA almost everywhere else. The thought of this makes me pretty mad.
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#20 Afrikanxl
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[QUOTE="Spartan4001"]

[QUOTE="sdelaney86"][QUOTE="Spartan4001"]Intelligent people already to use Gamerankings as the true score. To pretend Gamespot's score is the only one that matters is akin to saying President Bush is the only world leader who matters on the international scene.sdelaney86

True, but then saying GameRankings is the true score is like saying the rulers of all nations matter equally on the international scene.

Granted, but it's much better than blindly denying the existence of all other information.

blindly denying the existence of information is the foundation of system wars.



:lol:   so true yet so sad..... :cry:

I say everyone vote on 5 credible consistent review sources (if there is such a thing) and we create our own GameRanking averages....... and not have to worry about Review sources like Edge and their 4/10 for F1 because its too hard to handle....wa wa....scenarios which can bring down a score on GameRankings......
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#22 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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But... the bias!
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#23 needlesmcgirk
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because its extremely bias and full of lame people that are either trying to screw over a console they don't like or over hype the one that they do. If you want to be fair, just take the most trusted websites and average it out. Like GS, IGN, and whatever else (I only really look at those 2).
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#24 KodiakGTS
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[QUOTE="Spartan4001"]Intelligent people already to use Gamerankings as the true score. To pretend Gamespot's score is the only one that matters is akin to saying President Bush is the only world leader who matters on the international scene.sdelaney86
True, but then saying GameRankings is the true score is like saying the rulers of all nations matter equally on the international scene.

Lol, that is a good point I guess, but I'm still sticking with Gamerankings. Many potentially biased scores > one potentially biased score. More of a chance of getting it right.
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#25 BuryMe
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no. First of all, these are the gamespot forums. second, GR uses scores like Nintendo powre, PSM and team xbox. People would complain that biased reviews from these sources raise the scores. 3rd, since the score is an average, it changes quite alot. And by the time it stabalizes, no one cares about the game any more
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#26 poopinloop32
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why did you add "and this is comming from a sheep?"The Sheep started this whole thing with Zelda..Face it on Gamespot gamespot scores count...but if I want to buy a game ill check Gamerrankings
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#27 haris12121212
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No! GS forums -> GS reviews, wanan use IGN reviews go to IGN forum, wanna use GameRankings review go to GameRankings forums.
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#28 BuryMe
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why did you add "and this is comming from a sheep?"The Sheep started this whole thing with Zelda..Face it on Gamespot gamespot scores count...but if I want to buy a game ill check Gamerrankingspoopinloop32
agree 100%

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#29 Dualshockin
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If Crackdown flopping wasnt enough,the Lems thread flops as well :lol:

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#30 Laserwolf65
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I can't believe that people expect GS to conform to gamerrankings. It's an average people. That means that some scores will be lower and some will be higher. If every site had the same opinion, what would be the point of even looking at reviews?
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#31 SolidTy
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Ok obviously this is Gamespot so the Gamespot rating is the most important rating.  But why can't we just use Gamerankings as the main rating system?  We would simply not use a Gamerankings rating until the Gamespot rating is posted for a particular game.

All the Lemmings are ticked right now because of Crackdown.  This idea is coming from a Sheep.  I don't know anyone who doesn't think that Gamerankings is a great rating system.  When just one person is rating the game there is simply to much room for personal bias.

Firelore29

Where were you when the Sheep were getting OWned for Zelda?

No, sorry, isn't going to work.

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#32 geist117
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Gamespot is only used in SW. Twilight Princess flopped on GS  and Nintendo fans had to deal with it. ONE game hyped by lemmings flops on GS and total damage control erupts. Deal with it lemmings Crackdown didn't even make the low hype so many set it for. Life goes on.
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#33 sonicmj1
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No.

Gamerankings not only shifts over time (bad), but it's always been a sort of tool of last resort. I have no problem if people use it to justify their purchases, but it's not the guidelines for floppage.

When people hype a game on these forums, it's assumed that the score they're hyping it for is the score at Gamespot. Making Gamerankings the official score is a copout that would only be used when a game should really be a flop.
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#34 linkhero1
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You can use it outside of SW but in SW we use GS ratings.
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#35 RAZZY_B
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i think people shudnt try to claim ownage for another site besides Gamespot, after all we are on gamespot, if gamerankings matters then people shud use gameranking forums.

yea i dont mind it when people cite gameranking or IGN etc. But example GOW2 got 9.7 on IGN, but if it gets a 8 on Gamespot even regardless of the IGN score cows get owned.

Hope ya'll get my drift

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#36 reilo
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Coming from a sheep? Do you just want GR to be the official score site so that you can claim ownage with Zelda: TP?
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#37 Kaarstein
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To stop Lemmings from saying we should use gamerankings instead of Gamespot scores. If we use gamerankings, then: Metroid Prime > Halo Zelda:TP > Gears of War
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#38 poopinloop32
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To stop Lemmings from saying we should use gamerankings instead of Gamespot scores. If we use gamerankings, then: Metroid Prime > Halo Zelda:TP > Gears of WarKaarstein
A person with a Zelda sig hoping we use Gamerankings as our site?Never seen that before
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#39 Kaarstein
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[QUOTE="Kaarstein"]To stop Lemmings from saying we should use gamerankings instead of Gamespot scores. If we use gamerankings, then: Metroid Prime > Halo Zelda:TP > Gears of Warpoopinloop32
A person with a Zelda sig hoping we use Gamerankings as our site?Never seen that before

If you read my message I wanted Lemmings to STOP saying we should use Gamerankings instead of Gamespot
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#40 Dreams-Visions
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Gamerankings.com takes into consideration too many junk reviews and biased reviews. also, the number of reviews vary, which affect the impact each review has on the final scoring. Gamespot or bust, IMO. Or the average of the 3 or 4 most popular gaming sites. OR, people could just play games and not worry about scores at all. novel, eh?
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#41 funnymario
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No.

Gamerankings not only shifts over time (bad), but it's always been a sort of tool of last resort. I have no problem if people use it to justify their purchases, but it's not the guidelines for floppage.

When people hype a game on these forums, it's assumed that the score they're hyping it for is the score at Gamespot. Making Gamerankings the official score is a copout that would only be used when a game should really be a flop.
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Exactly. For your own sake, go ahead. But not for ownage in SW.
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#42 tegovoltio
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No.

Gamerankings not only shifts over time (bad), but it's always been a sort of tool of last resort. I have no problem if people use it to justify their purchases, but it's not the guidelines for floppage.

When people hype a game on these forums, it's assumed that the score they're hyping it for is the score at Gamespot. Making Gamerankings the official score is a copout that would only be used when a game should really be a flop.
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Not only that but GR uses a certain amount of reviews that's gonna use which you can view, and for example a game might have 92% with 10 reviews, when switching to lets say, view it by 20, the score would go up or down.
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#43 Game_Addict247
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Gamerankings is unreliable and shouldn't be used when comparing games.

  1. Biased Sites-Sites like Nintendo Power, OXM, or PSM get counted. These factor in the average and do more than just "alter the score a little".
  2. Hype-A reviewing site is heavily hyped for a game and it gets released. One of two things happens: 1) The site is heavily disappointed and thus rates lower than a site that wasn't hyped, for example. Or 2) Gives the game a high score anyway so they don't feel wrong about their hype.
  3. No. of Reviews-Changes over time. Games like OoT and Soul Calibur had about 30 reviews, while games like RE4 and Halo 2 got about 100? Which games held up their high scores to more reviews?
  4. Standards-This also changes over time. Suppose a game comes out in 1999 and gets a 95% average. Over two years, huge innovations occur and standards skyrocket. Then a game comes out in 2001 and gets a 94% average. Which is truly better? When comparing the overall best game (as you should), standards alone wreck Gamerankings.
  5. Games w/o reviews-Big classics like Chrono Trigger, Super Mario Brothers 3, or Doom don't have reviews/many reviews. How can one factor classics into Gamerankings without them having reviews?
  6. Subjectivity-The reviewers for the sites themselves are biased. Sure it may not be on a huge scale, but anyone has preferences of genres compared to other genres. Nobody likes every genre and every game on the same level. Otherwise, where's the comparison? Anyone claiming that they like everything are probably the most biased. Suppose a reviewer is a big shooter fan? He could approach the game with higher standards or like it more, as opposed to someone who doesn't play many shooters and sees almost every one of them as the penultimate shooter game.
  7. Review Scales-Suppose two sites review a game. Both sites felt the game was exceptional, but not quite perfect enough for a maximum score. One gives a 9/10, which is factored into the average as 90%. Meanwhile the other gives a 4/5, which is factored into the average as 80%. Yet both tried to send the same message across, but with a big score difference. Don't think this kind of thing never happened.