why is ios gaming so underrated here at gamespot

A lot of people try to act like gaming on an ipod is such a horrible thing but i bet that if nintendo made the ipod it would have been called a revolution of gaming.

the ipod touch has better graphics prices and many more games than the 3ds. There is even an external controller coming out for the ipod that can be attached and works with most of the games. It is true that most of the games are shovelware but that didnt stop many other systems from getting recognized for there excellent games like wiis galaxy and ps2s god of war.

video for those who dont believe about the graphics

http://toucharcade.com/2011/05/30/madfinger-videos/

iOS games have great surface value and cost very little but they don't deliver the same quality/functionality as other systems/services. The gaming market is still small on iOS ...... try selling a full fledged game for even $29.99, you'll sell like 100 copies. Nonstop-Madness

Buttons. SAGE_OF_FIRE

No buttons and library consisting mostly of extremely simple and short games.

THis is forum dedicated to core gaming, so you won't find much love for iOS here. Same with browser games (which iOS is very similiar to)

It simple really.

Its cus it sucks

No buttons and library consisting mostly of extremely simple and short games.

THis is forum dedicated to core gaming, so you won't find much love for iOS here. Same with browser games (which iOS is very similiar to)

AdrianWerner

Buttons. SAGE_OF_FIRE

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No buttons and library consisting mostly of extremely simple and short games.

THis is forum dedicated to core gaming, so you won't find much love for iOS here. Same with browser games (which iOS is very similiar to)

Crashjak

No buttons and library consisting mostly of extremely simple and short games.

THis is forum dedicated to core gaming, so you won't find much love for iOS here. Same with browser games (which iOS is very similiar to)

AdrianWerner

I have an iPhone 3GS. Its not a gaming machine. Its a phone, I have plenty of games on it, but controls suck, graphics are only ok to but it in the best possible way, and they're really not that great of experiences.

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No buttons and library consisting mostly of extremely simple and short games.

THis is forum dedicated to core gaming, so you won't find much love for iOS here. Same with browser games (which iOS is very similiar to)

gamebreakerz__

I have an iPhone 3GS. Its not a gaming machine. Its a phone, I have plenty of games on it, but controls suck, graphics are only ok to but it in the best possible way, and they're really not that great of experiences.

good_sk8er7

Console elitism probably. Even DS and PSP get hate due to them being handhelds. But it's not like they're the only systems hated on either.

Console elitism probably. Even DS and PSP get hate due to them being handhelds. But it's not like they're the only systems hated on either.

LovePotionNo9

iOS games have great surface value and cost very little but they don't deliver the same quality/functionality as other systems/services. The gaming market is still small on iOS ...... try selling a full fledged game for even $29.99, you'll sell like 100 copies. Nonstop-Madness

It can be quite fun hut most of the games are essentially just flash games you find on the PC. soulitane

[QUOTE="Jynxzor"]iOS devices are no place for full fledged gaming experiences. While I wont scoff at the platforms abillity to shunt free flash games for a fee to people with no sense of value...Good job Apple, Kudos to you. You also compared it to the PSP graphically...can I please see the game you are talking about? I highly doubt it's on "Par" with the PSP. Hell the PSP is eons old compared to how fast iOS devices get upgraded and I still can't believe it's more powerfull.ps2snesgod

At the best, those games could be on par with Ghost of Sparta, but I wouldn't go that far.

iOS games certainly have their place, but with a few exceptions, such games aren't going to give the complexity and control that handhelds like the 3DS and PSVita can give. I won't even comapre to consoles.

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No buttons and library consisting mostly of extremely simple and short games.

THis is forum dedicated to core gaming, so you won't find much love for iOS here. Same with browser games (which iOS is very similiar to)

Crashjak

Where does it say this forum is dedicated to core gaming? t .AdmiralBison

[QUOTE="Jynxzor"]iOS devices are no place for full fledged gaming experiences. While I wont scoff at the platforms abillity to shunt free flash games for a fee to people with no sense of value...Good job Apple, Kudos to you. You also compared it to the PSP graphically...can I please see the game you are talking about? I highly doubt it's on "Par" with the PSP. Hell the PSP is eons old compared to how fast iOS devices get upgraded and I still can't believe it's more powerfull.AdmiralBison

Lack of buttons and their games have the low quality of internet flash games. Seriously, it's like their games are from newgrounds but cost money to play.

ios is like an apetizer compared to console/pc gaming. It is a small portion of what I want out of a full meal. Plus, buttons are crucial when it comes to gaming. The mini fling covers up 50% of the screen:

In two-three years you won't be able to game on it because that's how Apple operates.

No buttons and library consisting mostly of extremely simple and short games.

THis is forum dedicated to core gaming, so you won't find much love for iOS here. Same with browser games (which iOS is very similiar to)

AdrianWerner

Zenonia 1-3

Across Age

Wild Frontier

Legendary Wars

Ash

Queens Crown

I can go on and on how what you said is actually not true.

There are MANY ios games that are longer then full priced retail games

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

No buttons and library consisting mostly of extremely simple and short games.

THis is forum dedicated to core gaming, so you won't find much love for iOS here. Same with browser games (which iOS is very similiar to)

fueled-system

Zenonia 1-3

Across Age

Wild Frontier

Legendary Wars

Ash

Queens Crown

I can go on and on how what you said is actually not true.

There are MANY ios games that are longer then full priced retail games

I actually regularly play browser titles, as well as casual pc games, but I don't expect to find many people to discuss them with here. I don't know why iOS can't graps that.

Buttons. SAGE_OF_FIRE

nailed it.

Just look at Kinect, it's the equivalent.

Compare the sword combat of SS with Star Wars. It's not even funny how broken it is in SW.

I'd also like to add, games. High quality games are simply non existent.

iOS games shine when you have 5-10 min to spare, I'll give them that.

Just not my scene. Won't hate, I just don't appreciate is all.

I find that most IOS games shine when they are meant to be played as break sessions (10-15 minutes). And most of the rich "deep" experiences on IOS are astronomically outclassed by games on other platforms.

So? THe majority of games are still flash-like in quality and lenght. So how what I said isn't true? You can also find plenty of deep and complex browser games (Some propably deeper than anything on iOS actually), but you still won't find people talking about them here much either.

I actually regularly play browser titles, as well as casual pc games, but I don't expect to find many people to discuss them with here. I don't know why iOS can't graps that.

AdrianWerner

Thank you.

Because it's Apple.

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[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

No buttons and library consisting mostly of extremely simple and short games.

THis is forum dedicated to core gaming, so you won't find much love for iOS here. Same with browser games (which iOS is very similiar to)

AdrianWerner

Zenonia 1-3

Across Age

Wild Frontier

Legendary Wars

Ash

Queens Crown

I can go on and on how what you said is actually not true.

There are MANY ios games that are longer then full priced retail games

I actually regularly play browser titles, as well as casual pc games, but I don't expect to find many people to discuss them with here. I don't know why iOS can't graps that.

Some may not have great production value(most actually) but many of these games are great

The Games I listed in my first post are some of the best games on ios and they all together cost less then $10

I can almost assure that every person who dismisses these games have not really played any of the ios games

I think its the lack of buttons, and generally the games are not very deep and made for everyone to be able to play. It is basically a casual market and if your going to a gaming website forum i think its safe to assume everyone here is not a casual.

[QUOTE="AdmiralBison"][QUOTE="Jynxzor"]iOS devices are no place for full fledged gaming experiences. While I wont scoff at the platforms abillity to shunt free flash games for a fee to people with no sense of value...Good job Apple, Kudos to you. You also compared it to the PSP graphically...can I please see the game you are talking about? I highly doubt it's on "Par" with the PSP. Hell the PSP is eons old compared to how fast iOS devices get upgraded and I still can't believe it's more powerfull.AdrianWerner

Prices of course are factor, and so is user friendliness and accessability and the install base for it is important but you also left out that the

games themselves play a big part in it.

Now if we really get to the point of gaming at it's core is that it's all about fun- it's that there are becoming more and more avenues into gaming that many on SW either fail to recognise this fact or there perspective and better jdugement is skewed by years of a fanboyism mentality- (Not Hardcore or Casual or Core- because those things do not equal fanboys)

It's obvious by many of the answers here that a lot of people on SW don't really know orhave actually have games that are on the iOS devices and either dismiss them before hand as 'flash games' or go by popular anti- iOS gaming or Android gaming sentiments with out further investigation.

[QUOTE="AdmiralBison"]Where does it say this forum is dedicated to core gaming? t .AdrianWerner

Than obviously there is a trend there isn't it? Core gaming has expanded to more then just PCs.

Gaming is not exclusively the domain of PCs anymore

That'sconsole gaming can manage to grow with acceptance because it offered things that suited particular peoples way of gaming- Standard console hardware, plug and play games and setting up in the lounge at a relatively cheap price.

Handhelds - Gaming on the go, cheaper games and they obviously have a more power and now and can be comparable to consoles previous generations ago.

Mobile gaming ( I don't think there will be much of a distinction between mobile gaming and handheld gaming ina few years- something else that can be discussed)- is just growing no doubt pushed by iOS and Android! with multiple manufacturers coming out with better devices every few months who is to say that in 2-3 years mobile devices will not surpass PS Vita and 3DS in power?

there is an iPhone forum here on gamespot so I don't need to go somewhere else if I'm into that- what I'm talking about is the general lack of understanding and foresight from SW that games are much bigger thena particualar group thinks and doesn't need to be constrained by a particular hardware or group of peoples idea on what gaming should be.

If that were the case we would all still be playing games on a PC with just a keyboard and mouse and the gaming industry as a whole would not be where it is today if followed such a mental constraint.

It isn't anything more than a coffee-break casual platform. The lack of buttons is a serious detriment.foxhound_fox

People don't see the irony in this?

this same arguement was used by PC gamers against consoles gamers control pads a few years ago- with less buttons, less acurate and precise and less sophisticated games compared to PCs at the time- yet console gaming grew in popularity even with an inferior control scheme!!

[QUOTE="fueled-system"]

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

No buttons and library consisting mostly of extremely simple and short games.

THis is forum dedicated to core gaming, so you won't find much love for iOS here. Same with browser games (which iOS is very similiar to)

AdrianWerner

Zenonia 1-3

Across Age

Wild Frontier

Legendary Wars

Ash

Queens Crown

I can go on and on how what you said is actually not true.

There are MANY ios games that are longer then full priced retail games

I actually regularly play browser titles, as well as casual pc games, but I don't expect to find many people to discuss them with here. I don't know why iOS can't graps that.

what about the games I listed?

[QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"]iOS games have great surface value and cost very little but they don't deliver the same quality/functionality as other systems/services. The gaming market is still small on iOS ...... try selling a full fledged game for even $29.99, you'll sell like 100 copies. ps2snesgod

the virtual nub and buttons are awful....the game is downright unplayable...I should know, I own the game on my iphone 4 along with Mortal Kobmat, SF4 and a ton of other mini games (angry birds, family feud etc)

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]It isn't anything more than a coffee-break casual platform. The lack of buttons is a serious detriment.AdmiralBison

People don't see the irony in this?

this same arguement was used by PC gamers against consoles gamers control pads a few years ago- with less buttons, less acurate and precise and less sophisticated games compared to PCs at the time- yet console gaming grew in popularity even with an inferior control scheme!!

The difference between less buttons and no buttons quite a difference.

I think its the lack of buttons, and generally the games are not very deep and made for everyone to be able to play. It is basically a casual market and if your going to a gaming website forum i think its safe to assume everyone here is not a casual.

edinsftw

I don't know about "Casual"

a lot of those terms get thrown around a lot with out much thought on what is considered "Casual" and the definitions of "Hardcore", "Casual" and "Core" are not fully understood, agreed upon and the lines are becoming blurrier.

Many here consider Nintendo games on the Wii as "casual" when they should be saying it's core to that particulay constituant.

Because in the end SW has a perspective, but based against facts - like an ever growing popularity in mobile gaming it becomes irrelevant.

The first group of p gamers to realise this trend are PC gamers. even if they accept it or not.