WHINING SONIC FANS take Sonic 4 complaints to new lows

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#1 RichardStallman
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Sonic fans start petition to ignore Sonic 4 and instead, buy Sonic 1.

Fans of the sonic series are like most sega fans, we want their old games brought back to the glory days when sega was pretty much the power in video games. Seeing the gameplay of sonic 4 has made many of us realize what we already knew, Sonic 4 will simply not be anywhere near as good as the original sonic games. Either way, We will decide to finally show sega what the fans truly want. A real sonic 4, as long as sonic 4 stays the way it is, we will not buy it, we will in fact buy sonic 1 on release in protest of sonic 4, till we end up with a re tool, or change, we want sonic in hd, not sonic RUSH HD. We will not buy a future sonic game, till we get a true successor to sonic 1/2.

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#2 CDUB316
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wow...sonic has gone back to sidescrolling and STILL they complain

WTF?

sure the animation's speed is off, but that can be fixed...even if it doesn't, whatever the end product of sonic 4 is will be WAY better than anything sega has done with sonic in the past 10 years

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#3 dragonfly110
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sega just cant win with there fanbase it seems can they.

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#4 AmayaPapaya
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I got a grat Idea! Lets Boycott one of a companys products, by buying insteadanother one of the compans products!

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#5 topgunmv
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Isn't it like pre-alpha or something? That's like deciding to not buy a plane because you saw a picture of it during construction and it only had one wing assembled.

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#6 CDUB316
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sega just cant win with there fanbase it seems can they.

dragonfly110

i'm certainly happy with it

the only gripe so far is sonics animation speed...should be a lot faster...other than that it looks like the sonic game we've all been waiting for

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#7 dragonfly110
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[QUOTE="dragonfly110"]

sega just cant win with there fanbase it seems can they.

CDUB316

i'm certainly happy with it

the only gripe so far is sonics animation speed...should be a lot faster...other than that it looks like the sonic game we've all been waiting for

I agree, Im personally super excited for it, IM sure theyll fix the animation by its release.

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#8 88mphSlayer
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meh, spoiled brats

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#9 TheColbert
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Its a new 2D Sonic game on the consoles, how can you not be happy?
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#10 DragonQuestHero
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Only thing I would like is the option for Tails and Knuckles to be playable characters. It the squeal to Sonic and Knuckles so I don't see why they are being left out. They were classic characters that were part of the that series.

But I'll live...I'll just hope they get the spot-light again at some point...that well not likely happen since there not Hedgehogs. XP

Other then that it looks fine to me, but I've learned to be careful when it comes to Sonic games.

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#11 CDUB316
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Only thing I would like is the option for Tails and Knuckles to be playable characters. It the squeal to Sonic and Knuckles so I don't see why they are being left out. They were classic characters that were part of the that series.

But I'll live...I'll just hope they get the spot-light again at some point...that well not likely happen since there not Hedgehogs. XP

Other then that it looks find to me, but I've learned to be careful when it comes to Sonic games.

DragonQuestHero

YES, tails and knuckles are a must....but THAT'S ALL, lol

all the other playable character in the past sonic games have just been pretty generic IMO

sonic, tails, and knuckles are all you'll ever need as playable characters in a sonic game

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#12 Skittles_McGee
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Who can really blame them, honestly? Sonic games have repeatedly been crap lately, I can't blame people who won't get excited for a new Sonic game. A lot of people probably feel like they'd be setting themselves up to get disappointed.
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#13 CDUB316
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Who can really blame them, honestly? Sonic games have repeatedly been crap lately, I can't blame people who won't get excited for a new Sonic game. A lot of people probably feel like they'd be setting themselves up to get disappointed.Skittles_McGee

yea, but they petition past games because they weren't side scrollers....and NOW it is a SS....so why in the hell are they whining?

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#14 ElTriforceo
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Excuse me? What gameplay? The 3 seconds of it in the debut trailer? Is there new footage I haven't seen?

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#15 Skittles_McGee
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[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"]Who can really blame them, honestly? Sonic games have repeatedly been crap lately, I can't blame people who won't get excited for a new Sonic game. A lot of people probably feel like they'd be setting themselves up to get disappointed.CDUB316

yea, but they petition past games because they weren't side scrollers....and NOW it is a SS....so why in the hell are they whining?

I don't think it was just the sidescrolling. I mean Sonic Adventure was awesome. It was just the actual quality of the game. And in that aspect I can't blame anyone for not getting excited.
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#16 Pixel-Pirate
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I'm personally not interested in Sonic 4. SEGA should of taken a note from Konami. Make the game look like it's on the old consoles it was from instead of looking modern. I don't care for a sonic with the modern sonic (who looks weird and has so much spikes on his head he should fall over) and 3D backgrounds. I might check it out but I stopped caring when I saw it wasn't retro.

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#17 VendettaRed07
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meh, spoiled brats

88mphSlayer

Yeah we got spoiled with the horrible games they have been making for the past 15 years :/

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#18 nintendoboy16
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Hmm, L4D2, them MW2, now Sonic 4? Give me a ****ing break.
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#19 BORN_TO_HATE
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Just when I thought the COD fanbase was the worst, I remembered the sonic fanbase existed.
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#20 wolverine4262
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Sonic 2 was the first game I have ever played and I CANNOT wait for sonic 4!
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#21 lowe0
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As someone pointed out in the comments on Dtoid: yeah, right. They'll buy Sonic 4 anyway. I say they should put both this game and the boycott group on Steam; we could all use that kind of entertainment again.

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#22 ElTriforceo
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[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]
[QUOTE="CDUB316"]

[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"]Who can really blame them, honestly? Sonic games have repeatedly been crap lately, I can't blame people who won't get excited for a new Sonic game. A lot of people probably feel like they'd be setting themselves up to get disappointed.Skittles_McGee

yea, but they petition past games because they weren't side scrollers....and NOW it is a SS....so why in the hell are they whining?

I don't think it was just the sidescrolling. I mean Sonic Adventure was awesome. It was just the actual quality of the game. And in that aspect I can't blame anyone for not getting excited.

No, many people whined that Sonic Adventure wasn't as good as the sidescrollers. Anyway I'm sure it's been a while since most people played all the Sonic games, if anyone is really that dissatisfied just buy the Collection for DS. It'll get you in the mood, I don't see how you can pass up 2-D. I might like it a bit better if it was retro looking but whatever I have the first 3 Sonics for that, welcome very slight changes, especially just visual ones. Everyone seems to forget it's still the same basic core gameplay.
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#23 nethernova
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Isn't it like pre-alpha or something? That's like deciding to not buy a plane because you saw a picture of it during construction and it only had one wing assembled.

topgunmv
You buy planes?
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#25 VendettaRed07
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I dont get it. Just because they are making a 2D game doesn't forgive the fact that they have been killing my dreams for so long. THe absolute best sonic game we got in the past 15 years was sonic adventure. Which AT BEST was considered a mixed bag by todays standards. The reveal of this new game, which is supposed to come out this summer, didn't look like anything special. It looked slow, the art design was just... mediocre. This needed to blow everyone away. And it didn't. Not even close. Sega has just made stupid decision after stupid decision with the sonic games over and over and over again, And I feel like a moron because I loved the character so much so I bought the games but i regret giving them 1 cent :/ I have absolutely no faith at all this game will be any better than just decent. I have no reason in the world to think so.

Just because sonic is returning to 2D doesn't mean sonic is making a comeback.. It just means sega has finally decided this will probably make them the most money cause its what people want, and it doesn't matter how well its executed its just going to sell millions regardless.. soo..

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#26 ElTriforceo
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[QUOTE="topgunmv"]

Isn't it like pre-alpha or something? That's like deciding to not buy a plane because you saw a picture of it during construction and it only had one wing assembled.

nethernova
You buy planes?

Who doesn't? :lol:
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#27 topgunmv
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[QUOTE="topgunmv"]

Isn't it like pre-alpha or something? That's like deciding to not buy a plane because you saw a picture of it during construction and it only had one wing assembled.

nethernova

You buy planes?

I've built them. (The one I bought was shipped unassembled.)

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#28 Skittles_McGee
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[QUOTE="ElTriforceo"] No, many people whined that Sonic Adventure wasn't as good as the sidescrollers. Anyway I'm sure it's been a while since most people played all the Sonic games, if anyone is really that dissatisfied just buy the Collection for DS. It'll get you in the mood, I don't see how you can pass up 2-D. I might like it a bit better if it was retro looking but whatever I have the first 3 Sonics for that, welcome very slight changes, especially just visual ones. Everyone seems to forget it's still the same basic core gameplay.

The general consensus on Sonic Adventure was positive. Not so for recent Sonic games. Which leads to my point that just because its 2D doesn't mean it'll be good. Sega's made nothing but bad Sonic games for years. I wouldn't expect most people to go "Oh, well I've been let down five or six times recently, but I'm sure the seventh time's the charm!". Nobody can be blamed for not expecting the new Sonic game to be good. Its just logical.
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#29 88mphSlayer
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[QUOTE="88mphSlayer"]

meh, spoiled brats

VendettaRed07

Yeah we got spoiled with the horrible games they have been making for the past 15 years :/

yep, and when we finally get a 2d sonic with the original sonic level designer, we still complain! about animations of all things... how about that

nobody can appreciate anything anymore, they just complain and nitpick everything to death, here's a suggestion: buy sonic 4 even if the animations are a little off because it's better than Sega going back to 3d abortions, k?

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#30 PS2_ROCKS
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Their stupid minds have been warped so much by SEGA's crap they can no longer recognize a good thing when they see it.
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#31 Pixel-Pirate
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[QUOTE="VendettaRed07"]

[QUOTE="88mphSlayer"]

meh, spoiled brats

88mphSlayer

Yeah we got spoiled with the horrible games they have been making for the past 15 years :/

yep, and when we finally get a 2d sonic with the original sonic level designer, we still complain! about animations of all things... how about that

nobody can appreciate anything anymore, they just complain and nitpick everything to death, here's a suggestion: buy sonic 4 even if the animations are a little off because it's better than Sega going back to 3d abortions, k?

Nothing to do with animations for me. Just wanted it to be in 2d 16 bit style like contra rebirth, castlevania adventure rebirth, and gradius rebirth.

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#32 godzillavskong
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I'm glad to see Sonic go back to its roots. I think the last great Sonic game I played was on the Dreamcast, so I welcome the 2D/3D sidescrolling Sonic. Looks fantastic!!

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#33 lawlessx
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you really CAN'T make anyone happy these days..
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#34 punkrocker163
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Excuse me? What gameplay? The 3 seconds of it in the debut trailer? Is there new footage I haven't seen?

ElTriforceo
Theres leaked gameplay footage, use google.
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#35 Vesica_Prime
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I'm willing to bet money that these are the same idiots who bought and enjoyed the newer Sonic games.

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#36 Valiant_Rebel
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Wow, no one messes with violent Sonic fanboys.

Just for the record, I am excited for Sonic 4 and cannot wait for it. However, I am not whining about anything. I never had a problem with Sonic's newer design. Dimps is developing it and the Sonic 3 level designer is back. I can't believe this nitpicking is occuring.

No matter what happens though, they are all going to buy it anyway, so just think of it as an early list of who is going to buy it.

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#37 Lionheart08
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Somehow I see this petition working as well as the petition PC-Gamers had against Modern Warfare 2.

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#38 Senor_Kami
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the end product of sonic 4 is will be WAY better than anything sega has done with sonic in the past 10 yearsCDUB316
Way better than absolute ass isn't saying too much. Technically, getting a 38/100 on a test is way better than getting a 3/100. Both are epic fails though.
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#39 ElTriforceo
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[QUOTE="Skittles_McGee"][QUOTE="ElTriforceo"] No, many people whined that Sonic Adventure wasn't as good as the sidescrollers. Anyway I'm sure it's been a while since most people played all the Sonic games, if anyone is really that dissatisfied just buy the Collection for DS. It'll get you in the mood, I don't see how you can pass up 2-D. I might like it a bit better if it was retro looking but whatever I have the first 3 Sonics for that, welcome very slight changes, especially just visual ones. Everyone seems to forget it's still the same basic core gameplay.

The general consensus on Sonic Adventure was positive. Not so for recent Sonic games. Which leads to my point that just because its 2D doesn't mean it'll be good. Sega's made nothing but bad Sonic games for years. I wouldn't expect most people to go "Oh, well I've been let down five or six times recently, but I'm sure the seventh time's the charm!". Nobody can be blamed for not expecting the new Sonic game to be good. Its just logical.

Yes because Sonic Rush which had an 82 Metascore was crap. Gotcha :roll:. Every time they attempt Sonic in 2-D it's great.
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#40 roddollente
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meh, spoiled brats

88mphSlayer

lawl are you serious? the last true Sonic game of its kind was Sonic & Knuckles. a 1994 game. after that, all games went downhill. and nope. Rush and Adventure aren't as good as SOnic 1,2,3,& Knuckles. 16 years and they made crappy games all those years.

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#41 OhSnapitz
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I dont get it. Just because they are making a 2D game doesn't forgive the fact that they have been killing my dreams for so long. THe absolute best sonic game we got in the past 15 years was sonic adventure. Which AT BEST was considered a mixed bag by todays standards. The reveal of this new game, which is supposed to come out this summer, didn't look like anything special. It looked slow, the art design was just... mediocre. This needed to blow everyone away. And it didn't. Not even close. Sega has just made stupid decision after stupid decision with the sonic games over and over and over again, And I feel like a moron because I loved the character so much so I bought the games but i regret giving them 1 cent :/ I have absolutely no faith at all this game will be any better than just decent. I have no reason in the world to think so.

Just because sonic is returning to 2D doesn't mean sonic is making a comeback.. It just means sega has finally decided this will probably make them the most money cause its what people want, and it doesn't matter how well its executed its just going to sell millions regardless.. soo..

VendettaRed07
Probably the only statement in this thread I agree with.. It's amazing how many people are jumping on the bandwagon after 10 years of TERRIBLE sonic games.. I remain cautiously optimistic about this game but I'm in no way holding my breath. And as you stated it has nothing to do with Sega "returning to it's roots" BUT the simple fact that they've put out CRAP for so long, it's hard to get excited. I hope this one turns out great but you hardcore fans shouldn't knock people who have been burned time and time again. Although I think an online petition is a little much..
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#42 789shadow
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Straight out of the "Dumbest Complaints Ever" department....

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#43 BuryMe
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What exactly are they complaining about?

And the Sonic Rush games were great. Finding out that Sonic 4 is going to be similar to them strikes me a great news.

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#44 nintendo-wins
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This is System Wars, not Fanboy Wars. It is against the rules here to discuss what fanboy group is worse and it has nothing to do with System Wars.

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#45 Pixel-Pirate
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I feel people are overly hard on sonic games. Secret rings wasn't bad, neither were the non-HD versions of unleashed. Adventure 1 and 2 were also great. They weren't classic Sonic but they weren't crap.

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#46 organic_machine
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I feel you posters are being too hard on some of the complaints. Sure, the boycott idea is rediculous and pointless, but I have been saying all along: making a Sonic sidescroller doesn't mean it's automatically a good game. It needs good platforming, smart level design, and well thought out bosses to be a true successor. Those qualities have been missing from Sonic team for quite some time. I don't think this game will be good. It will be average, and probably worth a download, but not good.

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#47 moistsandwich
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Isn't it like pre-alpha or something? That's like deciding to not buy a plane because you saw a picture of it during construction and it only had one wing assembled.

topgunmv

Actually that would be a very good reason not to buy a plane, considering that the wings of a plane are built as a single entity.

But I understand what you're trying to say.

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#48 LegatoSkyheart
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Sonic 4 will be awesome. (I hope)

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#49 MobilechicaneX
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I feel people are overly hard on sonic games. Secret rings wasn't bad, neither were the non-HD versions of unleashed. Adventure 1 and 2 were also great. They weren't classic Sonic but they weren't crap.

Pixel-Pirate

The HD version of Sonic unleashed was comparable to Mario galaxy.

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#50 AzatiS
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[QUOTE="CDUB316"]

wow...sonic has gone back to sidescrolling and STILL they complain

WTF?

sure the animation's speed is off, but that can be fixed...even if it doesn't, whatever the end product of sonic 4 is will be WAY better than anything sega has done with sonic in the past 10 years

i was sonic fan back in genesis , i lost interested after 3 ...but HEY... Sonic Adventure 1 was imba