Which RPG will win GOTY? Battle of the Titans!

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Poll Which RPG will win GOTY? Battle of the Titans! (78 votes)

The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom 22%
Hogwarts Legacy 1%
Octopath Traveler 2 3%
Star Wars Jedi: Survivor 1%
Baldur's Gate III 17%
Starfield 33%
Lies of P 0%
Final Fantasy XVI 23%
Wo Long: Fallen Dynasty 0%
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This appears to be an amazing year for role-playing games. The choices above are RPG's that have or are expected to score well with critics and fans. but their can only be one when all the dust is settled. Bunch which one do you think thats gonna be SW's?

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#1 Ghosts4ever
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Starfield.

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#2  Edited By Litchie
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I wouldn't call Zelda an RPG.

Nor Star Wars Jedi, Hogwarts Legacy, Starfield, Lies of P, Wo Long.. Might as well call pretty much all games ever an RPG.

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#3 Planeforger
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I wouldn't put Zelda in this category. It's an action-adventure game.

I hope Baldurs Gate 3 is the RPG of the year. If they maintain the quality from the Early Access over the next few acts, I can't see anything else beating it this year.

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#4 Last_Lap
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Some of them aren't even rpg's

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#5 madrocketeer  Online
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Zelda and Jedi Survivor are not RPGs. Final Fantasy XVI also barely qualifies as one, from what I heard.

Hogwarts Legacy plateaus and ends flat. Lies of P, Starfield and Baldur's Gate III are not released yet.

Bad list.

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#6 PCLover1980
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Most of these aren't RPGs.

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#7  Edited By navyguy21
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I'll say Starfield since people will likely still be playing it.

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#8  Edited By Mesome713
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Seems a lot of gamers still have zero clue what a role-playing game is. But thats ok, yall leave that stuff to the professionals. Yall just stick to playing games instead of making games.

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#9  Edited By Litchie
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@mesome713 said:

Seems a lot of gamers still have zero clue what a role-playing game is. But thats ok, yall leave that stuff to the professionals. Yall just stick to playing games instead of making games.

No, it seems that "RPG" isn't what people want to use for Zelda, and you're acting like people don't understand what an RPG is.

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#10  Edited By Mesome713
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@Litchie: Nintendo has called Zelda a role-playing game since the day it was created. Zelda also follows the characteristics of a role-playing game and hench is a role-playing game. Gamers be fucking clueless as always.

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#11 Ghosts4ever
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@Litchie said:

I wouldn't call Zelda an RPG.

Nor Star Wars Jedi, Hogwarts Legacy, Starfield, Lies of P, Wo Long.. Might as well call pretty much all games ever an RPG.

Starfield is clearly Action RPG.

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#12 Mesome713
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@ghosts4ever: Yep, all those games listed are forms of role-playing games.

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#13 Archangel3371
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I’m thinking that it’ll probably be Baldur’s Gate III.

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#14 ConanTheStoner
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Doesn't matter what genre a company decides to label a game as. Definitely doesn't matter what tag some rando Nintendo employee applied on their page.

But if that's your argument, Miyamoto has explicitly stated that Zelda isn't a RPG multiple times.

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#15 hardwenzen
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I hope its lords of the fallen. If not, for me its most likely gonna be the PC EXCLUSIVE Starfield.

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#16  Edited By Mesome713
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@ConanTheStoner: That quote was from 1992 when gaming media considered rpgs as turn-based games. Miyamoto does consider it an action adventure role-playing game as its been listed by Nintendo since its creation. Gamers dont like it? Who gives a ****. Gamers need to get a fuckin life.

Would love to hear someone explain why Tears of the Kingdom isnt a RPG. What makes an RPG game? Go ahead...well wait. i shall destroy all your examples with fire and brimestone!

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#17 Maroxad
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Of those games, Zelda will most likely win the most GOTYs.

As for the RPGoty. Baldur's Gate 3.

Zelda aint an RPG. Its a really good game though.

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#18  Edited By Mesome713
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@Maroxad: Why not? Its has everything an RPG has. Tears of the Kingdom has upgradeable equipment with stats, dialogue choices, buffs from food, enemies that "level up" and scale with the world, weapons with stats that progress as you go forward, weapon durability, a max health/stamina mechanic.

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#19 Maroxad
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@mesome713 said:

@Maroxad: Why not? Its has everything an RPG has.

How much in common with D&D does Zelda have?

Now lets look at the ways it contradicts.

  • Zelda is about problem solving and puzzles.
  • You play as a predefined character, Link (you can't even rename him like you could in earlier Zeldas).
  • You don't level up. You dont even have any attributes to speak of.
  • Avatar strength plays next to no role in any part of the game, it is purely rooted in player skill.
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#20 ConanTheStoner
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Yeah, it's not just some random quote though. He gave his reasoning (multiple times) and the things he spoke about regarding RPGs and Zelda are still relevant today. Still applicable to the latest Zelda titles.

Anyways, don't care for the "what is a RPG" argument. Just pointing out how your appeal to authority fallacy actually works against you here.

Critical thinking is important, but have fun with the mental gymnastics my friend.

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#21  Edited By Juub1990
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@mesome713 said:

@Litchie: Nintendo has called Zelda a role-playing game since the day it was created.

But then...

@mesome713 said:

@ConanTheStoner: That quote was from 1992

Sounds like someone is lying.

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#22 Juub1990
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Also, funny that OP includes Jedi Survivor and TOTK, two non-RPGs, but omits Diablo 4, an obvious RPG.

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#23  Edited By Miquella
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Baldur's Gate III. Completed Chapter 1 and I am so overwhelmingly impressed.

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#24  Edited By Mesome713
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@Maroxad: Those things dont make it not a role-playing game. There is no set rules one must have to be called a role-playing game.

Its has everything an RPG has. Tears of the Kingdom has upgradeable equipment with stats, dialogue choices, buffs from food, enemies that "level up" and scale with the world, weapons with stats that progress as you go forward, weapon durability, a max health/stamina mechanic. Plus a ton more.

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#25  Edited By Mesome713
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@Juub1990: If you read youll see why Diablo IV isnt included mate. Im not gonna include a game that everyone hates. Its one of the worst fan reviewed Diablo games in the history of the universe. We have to have standards.

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#26  Edited By ThatForumUser
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Game Pass Wins Again!! All most the games in this options are Game Pass!! TY Phil!!

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#27 DaVillain  Moderator
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I think some of the replies pretty much cover why this thread is a disgrace and disqualify classifying both Tears of the Kingdom & Jedi Survivor aren't RPG to begin with...especially Jedi Survivor as hardcore Star Wars fans such as myself never ever saw Jedi Survivor an RPG at all!

Anyhow, I'm not voting as this is a silly thread of the day.

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#28 Archangel3371
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Who’s RPG GotY are we even talking about here?

GameSpot’s?

IGN’s?

The Game Awards?

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#29 Mesome713
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@Archangel3371: Just overall most awards.

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#30  Edited By Mesome713
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@davillain: Your missing out, Starfield is destroying the poll. Zelda in second place. Ton of people voting for Baldurs Gate also.

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#31 Archangel3371
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@mesome713: Ok. So is this which will be RPG of the year or just which game will be overall GotY? Because those are two different categories.

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#32  Edited By Mesome713
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@Archangel3371: Its pretty much what will be GOTY. I added the RPG to get gamers upset about the age old mystery. Is this game an RPG? What is an RPG? What are the rules to RPG? Gamers go crazy when you call Zelda a role-playing game. Which is so silly and funny.

Spoiler alert, Madden is more a RPG than any of these games on this list :)

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#33 hardwenzen
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Remember those microsoft bots we just learned about? Well, guess what? They're all voting for Starfield, even on SW.😣

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#34 Djoffer123
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Obv Zelda will win the most awards, that being said the best actual rpg will undoubtedly be BG3 if they can keep the momentum from EA all through the game!

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#35 Archangel3371
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@mesome713: Ah, ok. So it’s just which game will be the overall game of the year then. In that case my vote for Baldur’s Gate III is incorrect.

Tears of the Kingdom - GotY

Baldur’s Gate III - RPG of the Year

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#36 blamix
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It's more likely gonna be TotK. Funny how people voted for Starfield though even though it's not out yet.

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#37  Edited By lamprey263
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I never thought of LoZ as an RPG ever, though fantasy is a staple trope of RPGs. Though I guess since BotW it's probably more so an RPG than it ever was. But people have been calling it an RPG for ages, ugh, that always annoyed me.

I hear FFXVI is barely an RPG and more a brawler / hack-n-slash, and not even a good one at that.

I'm guessing praise will go to Tears of the Kingdom from various outlets as their GOTY or RPG of the year.

But I think as long as Starfield doesn't bomb so bad it's forgotten as quickly as Redfall, it'll be the talk of the town from lovers and haters alike.

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#38 blaznwiipspman1
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why didn't you include re4 remake??

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#39  Edited By Mesome713
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@blaznwiipspman1: I don’t like Remakes or Remasters in GOTY. Same with sports games and racing games.

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#40 p3anut
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I never considered Zelda games as RPG's. Zelda games are Action Adventure games with RPG elements. Just because it has RPG elements in the game doesn't make it an RPG, it's an Action Adventure game.

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#41 mrbojangles25
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@Litchie said:

I wouldn't call Zelda an RPG.

Nor Star Wars Jedi, Hogwarts Legacy, Starfield, Lies of P, Wo Long.. Might as well call pretty much all games ever an RPG.

Yeah for real.

Skill trees =/= RPG

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#42 Mesome713
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@p3anut: Whats an RPG? Cause Zelda is more RPG than any game in the history of gaming.

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#43 Pedro
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If you prefer anyone of those games over the others, then that is your GOTY. It wouldn't matter what the final results of this poll or any poll turns out to be.

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#44 texasgoldrush
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Baldur's Gate III, easily.

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#45 pyro1245
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Gotta say: I've played a lot of ZToK, but I must have missed the part where it's an RPG.

If Larian is up to their usual standard, Baldur's Gate 3 has a good chance.

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#46 Last_Lap
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@blamix: Blame the OP for putting games on the list that...

A) Aren't out yet.

B) Listing games that aren't RPG's

C) Ignoring game(s) that are because he hates them.

So this whole thread is pointless.

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#47  Edited By Mesome713
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@last_lap: What makes them not a role-plying game? Go ahead clown, well wait. And what game did i miss o mighty one?

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#48  Edited By Last_Lap
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@mesome713: Look at the definition you posted, by that you could put almost any open world game as long as you level up, game has a story & you play as a character.

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#49  Edited By Jag85
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Final Fantasy XVI.

Zelda is not RPG.

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#50 Jag85
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@mesome713 said:

@Litchie: Nintendo has called Zelda a role-playing game since the day it was created. Zelda also follows the characteristics of a role-playing game and hench is a role-playing game. Gamers be fucking clueless as always.

That's a big lie. Miyamoto has repeatedly stated that Zelda is not RPG in multiple interviews over the decades. And he has also repeatedly stated that he doesn't even like the RPG genre either. He has never considered Zelda a role-playing game.

Miyamoto has occasionally been critical of the role-playing game (RPG) genre. In a 1992 interview, when asked whether Zelda is an RPG series, he declined but classified it as "a real-time adventure"; he said he was "not interested in [games] decided by stats and numbers [but in preserving] as much of that 'live' feeling as possible", which he said "action games are better suited in conveying". In 2003, he described his "fundamental dislike" of the RPG genre: "I think that with an RPG you are completely bound hand and foot, and can't move. But gradually you become able to move your hands and legs... you become slightly untied. And in the end, you feel powerful. So what you get out of an RPG is a feeling of happiness. But I don't think they're something that's fundamentally fun to play. With a game like that, anyone can become really good at it. With Mario though, if you're not good at it, you may never get good." While critical of the RPG gameplay system, he has occasionally praised certain aspects of RPGs, such as Yuji Horii's writing in the Dragon Quest series, the "interactive cinematic approach" of the Final Fantasy series, and Shigesato Itoi's dialogue in the Mother series.