Where are all the 110m PS2 people going?

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#1 OceanLeet
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The PS2 is finally beginning it's slow death.  It's been an awesome system and has had a great run.  But the market is ready for the next gen.  Let's see....there's the PS3 that's $600.  It's selling terribly which means nobody is eagerly spilling into the PS2's sequel.  There's the 360, which isn't doing so well either, but hardcores love it.  Then there is the Wii which is a casual's paradise and has been selling out instantly since launch 5 months ago.

My point?  People arn't going to wait 3+ years for the PS3 to drop to an affordable price.  They want a fun, unique, and affordable console and that's what the Wii is offering.  The arguement that 110m people, about 80% casuals, will remain devoted to Sony is just rediculous.

Cows, before responding remember:  E3 2006. 

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#2 foxhound_fox
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I own 2 PS2's and I am going WiiC for sure.
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#3 xjet039
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there never was 110 million sony lied.
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#4 TekkenMaster606
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Playstation 2 was a secondary gaming system next to my PC...

 

And the Playstation 3 is the same thing... 

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#5 drewtwo99
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110 million SOLD, but how many broke?
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#6 OceanLeet
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there never was 110 million sony lied.xjet039

Sony didn't lie about Santa Claus did they?  DID THEY??? 

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#7 Ice-Panther
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mmhmm
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#8 UrlacherMLB54
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"360 isn't doing so well" WHAT? 10 mil in 1 year, yeah thats bad.
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[QUOTE="xjet039"]there never was 110 million sony lied.OceanLeet

Sony didn't lie about Santa Claus did they? DID THEY???

.... He doesn't exist?
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#10 purplemidgets
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"360 isn't doing so well" WHAT? 10 mil in 1 years, yeah thats badUrlacherMLB54

 

It could have done a lot better. 

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#11 flashattackfina
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they are still with the ps2
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#12 shadow8585
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I know quite a few ex-PS2 owners who wanted to keep to the hardcore, violent style and got 360s
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#13 Yuri_Volte
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i went PS2 to 360.... :P but i am getting a PS3 when the price goes down wii no not interested >_
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#14 DementedDragon
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It's still too early for casuals to jump on the current gen wagon.

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#15 solidte
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110 million SOLD, but how many broke?drewtwo99

I dunno, how many did break fanboys, alot of you seem to say the PS2 had alot of hardware problems and it had its share but i don't think to the extent half of the sales were due to PS2s being rebought for the third time.

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#16 Sooshy
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[QUOTE="UrlacherMLB54"]"360 isn't doing so well" WHAT? 10 mil in 1 years, yeah thats badpurplemidgets

It could have done a lot better.

That's nice. It still did good.
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#17 Sooshy
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[QUOTE="drewtwo99"]110 million SOLD, but how many broke?solidte

I dunno, how many did break fanboys, alot of you seem to say the PS2 had alot of hardware problems and it had its share but i don't think to the extent half of the sales were due to PS2s being rebought for the third time.

Who knows. I know people that went through three, and I know others that

It's still too early for casuals to jump on the current gen wagon.

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I disagree. I have friends and family that don't play games, but own Wii's.
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I disagree. I have friends and family that don't play games, but own Wii's.Sooshy

If casuals were adopting now, the sale numbers would be much higher than they are.

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#19 Sooshy
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[QUOTE="Sooshy"]I disagree. I have friends and family that don't play games, but own Wii's.DementedDragon

If casuals were adopting now, the sale numbers would be much higher than they are.

They can't be any higher because Nintendo can't keep up with the demand.
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#20 DementedDragon
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They can't be any higher because Nintendo can't keep up with the demand.Sooshy

Well Nintendo isn't the only one selling systems.  ^_~

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#21 MikeE21286
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Honestly by the time casuals get done with the PS2.....probly a year or maybe even two, I believe their obvious (maybe not so much though) progression would be to a 360 or PS3 (probably PS3 but that could be dependent on the price of the PS3 at the time). I say this because by that time I think they will be ready to get into the more advanced graphics and the Wii graphics will just seem like the PS2 all over again to them. And also by that time many more people will own HDTVs making it an even more obvious progression from SDTV to HDTV and from SD gaming to HD gaming........my 2 cents on the issue.
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#22 Sooshy
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[QUOTE="Sooshy"]They can't be any higher because Nintendo can't keep up with the demand.DementedDragon

Well Nintendo isn't the only one selling systems. ^_~

What do you mean by that? It must have went over my head.
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#23 Nintendo_Man
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The 360 cannot win the console war until somehow they can fix their sales numbers in japan, Nights going to the Wii is a big blow to MS as it was first going to be on the 360 and PS3.
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110 million SOLD, but how many broke?drewtwo99
That is what I was thinking. I went through 3 myself.
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#25 DementedDragon
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What do you mean by that? It must have went over my head.Sooshy

you said in your last comment "They can't be any higher because Nintendo can't keep up with the demand." in response to my suggesting that if casuals are starting to buy systems now the sales would be higher.  I took it as you insinuating that casuals only want Wiis.  and that's why I gave that reply.

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#26 Idonomeus
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I doubt casuals are done with the PS2 just yet. The PS2 is still selling very well and some of the recent releases on the system are better than current gen offerings. There is also a huge library of cheap games and I haven't even got around to playing everything that interests me on the system. Madden didn't sell as well on Wii as it did on the PS3 despite the smaller userbase and it's always a good indication of where the PS2 casuals are heading. The Wii also isn't getting GTA and it doesn't have anything like Gran Turismo.
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#27 Sooshy
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[QUOTE="Sooshy"]What do you mean by that? It must have went over my head.DementedDragon

you said in your last comment "They can't be any higher because Nintendo can't keep up with the demand." in response to my suggesting that if casuals are starting to buy systems now the sales would be higher. I took it as you insinuating that casuals only want Wiis. and that's why I gave that reply.

I'm not sure what that has to do with our argument...
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I doubt casuals are done with the PS2 just yet. The PS2 is still selling very well and some of the recent releases on the system are better than current gen offerings. There is also a huge library of cheap games and I haven't even got around to playing everything that interests me on the system. Madden didn't sell as well on Wii as it did on the PS3 despite the smaller userbase and it's always a good indication of where the PS2 casuals are heading. The Wii also isn't getting GTA and it doesn't have anything like Gran Turismo.Idonomeus
That is a good point............year in and year out Madden for PS2 is the top selling game.....Also those PS2 owners love GTA and all those other series they have been enjoying for the past 7 years or so. I don't see why they would jump ship and go a system (Wii) that doesn't have lots of their favorite games.
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#29 DementedDragon
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[QUOTE="DementedDragon"]

[QUOTE="Sooshy"]What do you mean by that? It must have went over my head.Sooshy

you said in your last comment "They can't be any higher because Nintendo can't keep up with the demand." in response to my suggesting that if casuals are starting to buy systems now the sales would be higher. I took it as you insinuating that casuals only want Wiis. and that's why I gave that reply.

I'm not sure what that has to do with our argument...

You know . . . . neither do I.

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[QUOTE="drewtwo99"]110 million SOLD, but how many broke?T-Aldous
That is what I was thinking. I went through 3 myself.

You went through 3 PS2's? Wow, you really don't know how to take care of a system. Me and 3 of my good friends all got PS2's early in its life, all 3 of us got DRE's but we all fixed them the SAME exact day in under 30 minutes time. All you have to do is clean the laser with a q-tip.
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#31 elementz28
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I am goin to buy my lil cousin a ps2..And PS3 selling badly?? we debunked it already..1up even did article on the sales..the ps3 is even doin better here in NA and manage to sell almost all their ps3 at launch in Europe..Lemmings always need to get owned.lol..
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#32 ElTioGamboin
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They're saving money to buy the PS3
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#33 SolidTy
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there never was 110 million sony lied.xjet039

What a hater.

Actually, there are over 120+ Million PS2's out there, the TC is wrong.

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#34 waynehead895
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I bought one about a week ago.
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#35 jmk777
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The PS2 is finally beginning it's slow death. It's been an awesome system and has had a great run. But the market is ready for the next gen. Let's see....there's the PS3 that's $600. It's selling terribly which means nobody is eagerly spilling into the PS2's sequel. There's the 360, which isn't doing so well either, but hardcores love it. Then there is the Wii which is a casual's paradise and has been selling out instantly since launch 5 months ago.

My point? People arn't going to wait 3+ years for the PS3 to drop to an affordable price. They want a fun, unique, and affordable console and that's what the Wii is offering. The arguement that 110m people, about 80% casuals, will remain devoted to Sony is just rediculous.

Cows, before responding remember: E3 2006.

OceanLeet

The PS2 has better games than the Wii, thats right ! and the graphics are on par or better than the Wii. Even Nitendo came out and said the Wii isnt a next-gen console. Your thread fails. Most people are going to either buy a Xbox360 or PS3. And more than not most PS2 player will be loyal to the Playstation brand.

/Thread

 

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#36 mwa
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[QUOTE="xjet039"]there never was 110 million sony lied.SolidTy

What a hater.

Actually, there are over 120+ Million PS2's out there, the TC is wrong.

link? 

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110 million SOLD, but how many broke?drewtwo99
Honestly I bet it wasnt more than 10-15 million. That is  pretty hih failure rate.
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#38 palaric8
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there never was 110 million sony lied.xjet039
yep they lied,because is now 115 and growing
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"360 isn't doing so well" WHAT? 10 mil in 1 year, yeah thats bad.UrlacherMLB54
that is... and it was nearly a year and a half. Wii is at 6m in 5 monthes.
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[QUOTE="UrlacherMLB54"]"360 isn't doing so well" WHAT? 10 mil in 1 year, yeah thats bad.beinss
that is... and it was nearly a year and a half. Wii is at 6m in 5 monthes.

wii is a fad,wait when gta IV and halo 3 are out,you will see
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[QUOTE="beinss"][QUOTE="UrlacherMLB54"]"360 isn't doing so well" WHAT? 10 mil in 1 year, yeah thats bad.palaric8

that is... and it was nearly a year and a half. Wii is at 6m in 5 monthes.


wii is a fad,wait when gta IV and halo 3 are out,you will see

Proof the wii is a fad? or are you just being a fanboy.
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[QUOTE="palaric8"][QUOTE="beinss"][QUOTE="UrlacherMLB54"]"360 isn't doing so well" WHAT? 10 mil in 1 year, yeah thats bad.laughingman42

that is... and it was nearly a year and a half. Wii is at 6m in 5 monthes.


wii is a fad,wait when gta IV and halo 3 are out,you will see

Proof the wii is a fad? or are you just being a fanboy.

and example: my teacher brought a wii ,I told him why ,he told me because it looks fun for a person of his age(around 58) and everyone is buying it ,I told him "what games are you going to buy ,he replied "I don't know about games,can you tell me a good one for me?",a month later I ask him about his wii, he told me he gave the wii to his grandchild,he is 11 ,when all his friends are playing and talking about gta IV or halo 3(not my game tho),he will want to play the next gen game too,selling his wii.ending the fad.
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[QUOTE="palaric8"][QUOTE="beinss"][QUOTE="UrlacherMLB54"]"360 isn't doing so well" WHAT? 10 mil in 1 year, yeah thats bad.laughingman42

that is... and it was nearly a year and a half. Wii is at 6m in 5 monthes.


wii is a fad,wait when gta IV and halo 3 are out,you will see

Proof the wii is a fad? or are you just being a fanboy.

Wii = Tickle me emo. The Resistance developer said so and that game was almost worth playing!
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[QUOTE="laughingman42"][QUOTE="palaric8"][QUOTE="beinss"][QUOTE="UrlacherMLB54"]"360 isn't doing so well" WHAT? 10 mil in 1 year, yeah thats bad.Idonomeus

that is... and it was nearly a year and a half. Wii is at 6m in 5 monthes.


wii is a fad,wait when gta IV and halo 3 are out,you will see

Proof the wii is a fad? or are you just being a fanboy.

Wii = Tickle me emo. The Resistance developer said so and that game was almost worth playing!

I dont give about resistance or the developer and everyone has their opinions
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[QUOTE="laughingman42"][QUOTE="palaric8"][QUOTE="beinss"][QUOTE="UrlacherMLB54"]"360 isn't doing so well" WHAT? 10 mil in 1 year, yeah thats bad.palaric8

that is... and it was nearly a year and a half. Wii is at 6m in 5 monthes.


wii is a fad,wait when gta IV and halo 3 are out,you will see

Proof the wii is a fad? or are you just being a fanboy.

and example:
my teacher brought a wii ,I told him why ,he told me because it looks fun for a person of his age(around 58) and everyone is buying it ,I told him "what games are you going to buy ,he replied "I don't know about games,can you tell me a good one for me?",a month later I ask him about his wii, he told me he gave the wii to his grandchild,he is 11 ,when all his friends are playing and talking about gta IV or halo 3(not my game tho),he will want to play the next gen game too,selling his wii.ending the fad.

5th graders talking about how awesome gta4 and halo3 are? talk about irresponsible paranting. and not only that a 5thgrader talking about selling a system?:lol:
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they are waiting for the PS3 to have a price drop. probably isn't going to take 3+ years like you said since Sony NEEDS a price drop this time.
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[QUOTE="laughingman42"][QUOTE="palaric8"][QUOTE="beinss"][QUOTE="UrlacherMLB54"]"360 isn't doing so well" WHAT? 10 mil in 1 year, yeah thats bad.Idonomeus

that is... and it was nearly a year and a half. Wii is at 6m in 5 monthes.


wii is a fad,wait when gta IV and halo 3 are out,you will see

Proof the wii is a fad? or are you just being a fanboy.



Wii = Tickle me emo. The Resistance developer said so and that game was almost worth playing!

Umm Sony practically signs his paychecks. What do you expect.
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[QUOTE="palaric8"][QUOTE="laughingman42"][QUOTE="palaric8"][QUOTE="beinss"][QUOTE="UrlacherMLB54"]"360 isn't doing so well" WHAT? 10 mil in 1 year, yeah thats bad.laughingman42

that is... and it was nearly a year and a half. Wii is at 6m in 5 monthes.


wii is a fad,wait when gta IV and halo 3 are out,you will see

Proof the wii is a fad? or are you just being a fanboy.

and example:
my teacher brought a wii ,I told him why ,he told me because it looks fun for a person of his age(around 58) and everyone is buying it ,I told him "what games are you going to buy ,he replied "I don't know about games,can you tell me a good one for me?",a month later I ask him about his wii, he told me he gave the wii to his grandchild,he is 11 ,when all his friends are playing and talking about gta IV or halo 3(not my game tho),he will want to play the next gen game too,selling his wii.ending the fad.

5th graders talking about how awesome gta4 and halo3 are? talk about irresponsible paranting. and not only that a 5thgrader talking about selling a system?:lol:

they ask "mom can you buy me a 360/ps3? mom:"you arleady have one" kid:"no,thats wii" mom "is the game that you want for the wii" kid:"no..." sure you havent played halo 2 online or xbl ,is full of 5 graders....
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[QUOTE="laughingman42"][QUOTE="palaric8"][QUOTE="laughingman42"][QUOTE="palaric8"][QUOTE="beinss"][QUOTE="UrlacherMLB54"]"360 isn't doing so well" WHAT? 10 mil in 1 year, yeah thats bad.palaric8

that is... and it was nearly a year and a half. Wii is at 6m in 5 monthes.


wii is a fad,wait when gta IV and halo 3 are out,you will see

Proof the wii is a fad? or are you just being a fanboy.

and example:
my teacher brought a wii ,I told him why ,he told me because it looks fun for a person of his age(around 58) and everyone is buying it ,I told him "what games are you going to buy ,he replied "I don't know about games,can you tell me a good one for me?",a month later I ask him about his wii, he told me he gave the wii to his grandchild,he is 11 ,when all his friends are playing and talking about gta IV or halo 3(not my game tho),he will want to play the next gen game too,selling his wii.ending the fad.

5th graders talking about how awesome gta4 and halo3 are? talk about irresponsible paranting. and not only that a 5thgrader talking about selling a system?:lol:

they ask "mom can you buy me a 360/ps3?
mom:"you arleady have one"
kid:"no,thats wii"
mom "is the game that you want for the wii"
kid:"no..."
sure you havent played halo 2 online or xbl ,is full of 5 graders....

I have, It is. But it still doesnt change the fact that its irresponsible parenting. and my second point is still valid.
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[QUOTE="palaric8"][QUOTE="laughingman42"][QUOTE="palaric8"][QUOTE="laughingman42"][QUOTE="palaric8"][QUOTE="beinss"][QUOTE="UrlacherMLB54"]"360 isn't doing so well" WHAT? 10 mil in 1 year, yeah thats bad.laughingman42

that is... and it was nearly a year and a half. Wii is at 6m in 5 monthes.


wii is a fad,wait when gta IV and halo 3 are out,you will see

Proof the wii is a fad? or are you just being a fanboy.

and example:
my teacher brought a wii ,I told him why ,he told me because it looks fun for a person of his age(around 58) and everyone is buying it ,I told him "what games are you going to buy ,he replied "I don't know about games,can you tell me a good one for me?",a month later I ask him about his wii, he told me he gave the wii to his grandchild,he is 11 ,when all his friends are playing and talking about gta IV or halo 3(not my game tho),he will want to play the next gen game too,selling his wii.ending the fad.

5th graders talking about how awesome gta4 and halo3 are? talk about irresponsible paranting. and not only that a 5thgrader talking about selling a system?:lol:

they ask "mom can you buy me a 360/ps3?
mom:"you arleady have one"
kid:"no,thats wii"
mom "is the game that you want for the wii"
kid:"no..."
sure you havent played halo 2 online or xbl ,is full of 5 graders....

I have, It is. But it still doesnt change the fact that its irresponsible parenting. and my second point is still valid.

you are getting off topic. when the "next gen selling games" comes ,the wii will go to the shadows