What does the WiiU need to do to impress you at E3 2012?

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#1 Wasdie  Moderator
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So last E3 Nintendo revealed the WiiU to everybody but failed to show us any games in development. Some tech demos and the promise of more 3rd party support and multiplatform development left a lot of people skeptical. Rumors of it's internal hardware have also surfaced and the machine doesn't seem to be a massive leap in power from the current generation which leads a lot of people to speculate most of the games on the system will also be on the current gen consoles in late 2012 and 2013. While hardcore Nintendo fans may rejoice that they are finally getting proper 3rd party games, the rest of us aren't that impressed by being able to play games we can already get on our current consoles.

The WiiU's tablet controller is unique and innovative in a few ways, but early reports say the hardware was unreliable. From what I can tell at CES they have fixed those problems.

So what is it going to take Nintendo to impress you at E3 2012?

Personally they will need to show me that the multiplatform games can really benefit from the controller and are up to par with games on the Xbox 360 and PS3 in terms of graphics. They also need to show me some new 1st party titles that use the controller well. It wouldn't hurt for them to get up to times with current online standards as well. If I need friend codes on the WiiU, I'll be highly disappointed.

The last will be price. The tech demos I saw from E3 2011 were extremely underwhelming, so I know the thing isn't a powerhouse. Since the WiiU does not have blu-ray playback capabilities and there has been no indication of an internal harddrive for large storage, they better not price the thing anything over $300. If it is set to launch at $400 there is absolutely no way I will even bother with one.

So that's it. It has to show me the innovations that they are hinting at, and the thing has to be cheap. I'm not dropping $400 on a dedicated gaming machine which 6 year old consoles can match in terms of power and outmatch in terms of value.

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#2 Heil68
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Announcement of 10 AA-AAA exclusive games available at launch.
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#3 Enforcedspot
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Hoping some pikmin 3 trailers, and Retro studios' new game would be nice too. I'm already planning to buy wii u anyway.
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#4 rasengan2552
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launch with a 1080p Zelda game NOT developed with Miyamoto as the go to guy.

If they startb showing multiplats using the tablet I will stop watching.

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They need to announce whether or not the SSB game has actually started development, or if they plan on starting development any time soon.

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launch with a 1080p Zelda game NOT developed with Miyamoto as the go to guy.

If they startb showing multiplats using the tablet I will stop watching.

rasengan2552

1080p would be foolish if the leaked specs have any truth to them.

I don't expect any of the next gen consoles to be going 1080p with everything. There is no point. 720p + upscaling looks fine for 95% of gamers and they can cram much more detail and objects into the game world.

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#7 Phoenix534
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Games, games, games, and more games. That's why I buy systems, to play games.

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#8 topgunmv
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It needs to have 1080p as the "standard" res.

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#9 rasengan2552
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[QUOTE="rasengan2552"]

launch with a 1080p Zelda game NOT developed with Miyamoto as the go to guy.

If they startb showing multiplats using the tablet I will stop watching.

Wasdie

1080p would be foolish if the leaked specs have any truth to them.

I don't expect any of the next gen consoles to be going 1080p with everything. There is no point. 720p + upscaling looks fine for 95% of gamers and they can cram much more detail and objects into the game world.

I would like to see it in 1080p. I have been waiting for 20+ years.

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#10 AmazonTreeBoa
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Remove to tablet control and use the Gamecube controller. Get better 3rd party support. Developed a WAY better online system than what they have now (and keep it free like Sony). Have their first party start developing new IPs instead of rehashing the same old tired IPs over and ever again like they do every gen. Add a large hard drive. Don't wait til years later after releasing a game before dropping the price like they do now. Don't take forever to drop the price of the system (I never buy a system when it first releases). If they do all that, then they will get my money. If not, then they will get from me what they got from me this gen.......nothing.
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Id like to see a console at a reasonalbe price point at launch. I think if Nintendo can get that right, they will do well. The tablet controller I can see appealing to alot of people, especially those that dont have any kind of tablet computer themselves. Id also like to see some multiplat franchises going to WiiU with the same game as other platforms, rather than a gimped version. That would do wonders for Nintendo. I dont expect native 1080p games lol, but modern looking games from them would suffice.
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[QUOTE="rasengan2552"]

launch with a 1080p Zelda game NOT developed with Miyamoto as the go to guy.

If they startb showing multiplats using the tablet I will stop watching.

Wasdie

1080p would be foolish if the leaked specs have any truth to them.

I don't expect any of the next gen consoles to be going 1080p with everything. There is no point. 720p + upscaling looks fine for 95% of gamers and they can cram much more detail and objects into the game world.

I'm sure people were making the same argument for 480p at the start of this gen.

It's time for consoles to make the jump.

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#13 AzatiS
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Good question. DEfinitly NOT more controller hype. I want to know or see console capabilities , see some nice demos of forthcoming games and some great exclusives ( zelda, mario i dont care you name it , but not just third party multis. ).
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#14 AzatiS
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Games, games, games, and more games. That's why I buy systems, to play games.

Phoenix534
Dont tell that to some sensitive sheeps here !! They go damage control.
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#15 rasengan2552
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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

[QUOTE="rasengan2552"]

launch with a 1080p Zelda game NOT developed with Miyamoto as the go to guy.

If they startb showing multiplats using the tablet I will stop watching.

topgunmv

1080p would be foolish if the leaked specs have any truth to them.

I don't expect any of the next gen consoles to be going 1080p with everything. There is no point. 720p + upscaling looks fine for 95% of gamers and they can cram much more detail and objects into the game world.

I'm sure people were making the same argument for 480p at the start of this gen.

It's time for consoles to make the jump.

Exactly. sheep have been claiming that 1080p will be the standard. I tried to refute it but they INSISTED it will. So if its sub that, then I am not interested.

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[QUOTE="rasengan2552"]

launch with a 1080p Zelda game NOT developed with Miyamoto as the go to guy.

If they startb showing multiplats using the tablet I will stop watching.

Wasdie

1080p would be foolish if the leaked specs have any truth to them.

I don't expect any of the next gen consoles to be going 1080p with everything. There is no point. 720p + upscaling looks fine for 95% of gamers and they can cram much more detail and objects into the game world.

I am sorry, but you are incorrect. The Wii U will be able to do 1080p easily. You seem to forgot that all Nintendo systems others than Wii were hella powerful.

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#17 BibiMaghoo
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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

[QUOTE="rasengan2552"]

launch with a 1080p Zelda game NOT developed with Miyamoto as the go to guy.

If they startb showing multiplats using the tablet I will stop watching.

reach3

1080p would be foolish if the leaked specs have any truth to them.

I don't expect any of the next gen consoles to be going 1080p with everything. There is no point. 720p + upscaling looks fine for 95% of gamers and they can cram much more detail and objects into the game world.

I am sorry, but you are incorrect. The Wii U will be able to do 1080p easily. You seem to forgot that all Nintendo systems others than Wii were hella powerful.

You cant really sy he is incorrect based on your assumption, something he has done aswell. Its all up in the air at the moment, and I personally dont see Nintendo aiming for the highest point on the board.
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A new Battle Revolution game and more Zelda and Mario is what I need.

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Games, a very good interface, good online and steam:P
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Solid launch lineup and an integrated online system like Live.

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Solid launch lineup and an integrated online system like Live.

lundy86_4

I don't think their Online will be integrated like Xbox Live.

But Nintendo is talking with a lot of 3rd Party developers mainly EA and Valve and asking them what they want to see in an Online system for the Wii U.

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#22 rasengan2552
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The WiiU's online will probably a wi-fi hotspot at McDonalds.

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#23 enzyme36
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new 1st person metroid... and possibly a 3rd party exclusive... please save the new IPs for later and I dont want to see a bunch of Miis playing volleyball or flutes

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I don't think their Online will be integrated like Xbox Live.

But Nintendo is talking with a lot of 3rd Party developers mainly EA and Valve and asking them what they want to see in an Online system for the Wii U.

Nintendo_Ownes7

I'm thinking that it won't be. It's no like my purchase is gonna rest on that, but it certainly would be nice. Hopefully we get something closer to what the HD consoles offered this gen.

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#25 EPaul
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A Decent Online system (no friend codes)

A decent launch lineup at least one of the big N titles in there

Graphics a step up from HD Twins

399 US Dollar

3rd Party Support

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#26 Darth-Samus
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Well I do very much have faith in Nintendo and am super excited for the console. But I do feel that they absolutely have to just nail it with software. Sure the games announced need to showcase the advantages of the awesome new controller first and foremost, but a variety of high profile hardcore-centric games needs to also be present. And a healthy dose of them. They nned to show ten games at least that have hardcore appeal and can be looked forward to soon after launch. That will be game over and they will win the day.

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#27 Masculus
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I think first of all, the controller must be cheap. That's one problem that have arisen from it's design, how expensive will be a tablet-controller? I honestly think it's design is a huge boost for split-screen and would be a shame if it is expensive to have a spare one for your buddy.

Second it would need a strong dev support. They made sure, it seens, that it would be a very friendly device to program. The exclusive titles and multi-plats is the most important thing. If it ends up like the Wii, a console where third party goes to die (only not in semi-rare cases), it will be pointless to acquire one.

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#28 Blueresident87
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I doubt Nintendo could do anything to impress me with that system at this point...

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#29 DaBrainz
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I want new IPs in all genras with 2012 release dates.
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#30 NaveedLife
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I will make a list in order of things needed to impress me :P

  1. Exclusives (Mainly first party titles like Zelda and Metroid getting an Epic makeover)
  2. Great gaphics (Hopefully notably better than current consoles)
  3. Good online and other GUI related things (get with the times N. You have done pretty well the with 3DS, but still have some work to do)

As much as I love great tech and such, the selling point for me will be if they support the core gamers and really deliver some epic masterpiece games. I want to see an evolution of Zelda and Metroid. Some new Ip's would be awesome as well.

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#31 finalstar2007
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Probably an HD Zelda, i have never played a zelda game so if they come up with a true HD Zelda game i may just actually for once be interested in a Nintendo system then again i bet they'll use that crappy looking tap thing as a controller but hey guess will see. as of right now i am zero % interested in the weeU.

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I will make a list in order of things needed to impress me :P

  1. Exclusives (Mainly first party titles like Zelda and Metroid getting an Epic makeover)
  2. Great gaphics (Hopefully notably better than current consoles)
  3. Good online and other GUI related things (get with the times N. You have done pretty well the with 3DS, but still have some work to do)

NaveedLife

I think Nintendo will have good Online with the Wii U.

Nintendo said they can't do online by themselves which is what they were doing with the Wii, DS, and maybe 3DS.

With the Wii U Nintendo is asking 3rd Parties that have experience with online and asking them what they should do to make it better. The main 3rd Parties they are asking are EA and Valve.

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[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

I will make a list in order of things needed to impress me :P

  1. Exclusives (Mainly first party titles like Zelda and Metroid getting an Epic makeover)
  2. Great gaphics (Hopefully notably better than current consoles)
  3. Good online and other GUI related things (get with the times N. You have done pretty well the with 3DS, but still have some work to do)

Nintendo_Ownes7

I think Nintendo will have good Online with the Wii U.

Nintendo said they can't do online by themselves which is what they were doing with the Wii, DS, and maybe 3DS.

With the Wii U Nintendo is asking 3rd Parties that have experience with online and asking them what they should do to make it better. The main 3rd Parties they are asking are EA and Valve.

The 3DS is good enough for me, but I would like it to be a little less clunky (get rid of codes altogether and just use names), although some aspects they do very well with the 3DS. I am not worried about the online. The power in the console and more importantly, the core games are where my concern is.

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#34 rasengan2552
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[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

I will make a list in order of things needed to impress me :P

  1. Exclusives (Mainly first party titles like Zelda and Metroid getting an Epic makeover)
  2. Great gaphics (Hopefully notably better than current consoles)
  3. Good online and other GUI related things (get with the times N. You have done pretty well the with 3DS, but still have some work to do)

Nintendo_Ownes7

I think Nintendo will have good Online with the Wii U.

Nintendo said they can't do online by themselves which is what they were doing with the Wii, DS, and maybe 3DS.

With the Wii U Nintendo is asking 3rd Parties that have experience with online and asking them what they should do to make it better. The main 3rd Parties they are asking are EA and Valve.

I think the 2001 beta build of XBL will still be better than the WiiU's online.

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Good games and the price $349-399.

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video games.

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#37 flazzle
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I'm pretty much a sheep, but I don't really have the desire to rush out and get it. They will really need to show me something that would make me want it right away.

Right now, I haven't even started Twilight Princess, and there are so many other games that are cheap that i would get first. I'll wait until the first or second price cut.

However, I heard No More Heroes 3 may be in the works. That might do it.

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I would like it if they showed a new Zelda, but not like the Wii Zelda. I want the WiiU to be just as or even more powerful than our systems today, which some rumors are saying that it is, if it can do these kind of games what's to stop them from making a really awesome Zelda game that has Great graphics and gameplay and just looks and plays amazing? That's what I want, I would also like them to not just focus on motion control but offer many different options to play your game, let you choose how you want to play it.

Of course there are other things like a good online service and whatnot, but beyond that I think the WiiU might have a chance. I'm going to end up probably buying it anyway because I always buy every Nintendo system. Oh and it is getting Blu Ray so that is a step in the right direction, and some multiplat devs have taken a look at it, even Bethesda has said that Skyrim on WiiU is a possibility, so we'll see....

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Be *next-gen* and not just reaching current gen in 2012.
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I would like it if they showed a new Zelda, but not like the Wii Zelda. I want the WiiU to be just as or even more powerful than our systems today, which some rumors are saying that it is, if it can do these kind of games what's to stop them from making a really awesome Zelda game that has Great graphics and gameplay and just looks and plays amazing? That's what I want, I would also like them to not just focus on motion control but offer many different options to play your game, let you choose how you want to play it.

Of course there are other things like a good online service and whatnot, but beyond that I think the WiiU might have a chance. I'm going to end up probably buying it anyway because I always buy every Nintendo system. Oh and it is getting Blu Ray so that is a step in the right direction, and some multiplat devs have taken a look at it, even Bethesda has said that Skyrim on WiiU is a possibility, so we'll see....

ShadowMoses900

They might show a new Zelda. Miyamoto said he wanted the Wii U Zelda to get released 2-3 years after launch.

They showed Skyward Sword 2-3 years in advanced so they might do the same with this Zelda.

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#41 Omzzz
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Games and online structure. That is what I think are most important and Nintendo really needs to show how they stack against the other consoles.
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#42 Bread_or_Decide
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I don't want to see a Wii-U Sports that's for damn sure.
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#43 RandoIph
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Fire Reggie. The system will be meaningless to me if he chokes it to death on the software side in my region. I like Nintendo games, but I need more than JUST Nintendo games. Reggie doesn't get that, he tries to overspecialize for his market, and murders variety in the process. Which is why the Wii is dying such a painful death in North America. If they don't fire that moron, at least make the damn thing region free so I can just go around that dumbass altogether.

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#44 Bread_or_Decide
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If Miyamoto can refrain from coming out and holding the tablet as a shield for zelda than I'd also be very happy.
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Make me a sandwich. Turkey and avocado with provolone, please. Oh, and hot peppers.

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#46 AutoPilotOn
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A real online feature with gamer tag and real chat. What's up with Nintendo and hate for allowing u to communicate ?
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GTA V with Mario as the main character.
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#48 rogelio22
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only way i would buy day one is if it had zelda, mario or metroid prime games running at 1080p 60 fps with visuals that match crysis 2/bf3/witcher 2 on ultra! otherwise why bother???

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#49 MLBknights58
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Just show up. We know the first party games are coming, just a question of when.

3rd parties get on board.

PRICE IT EFFECTIVELY.

Decent online system.

I'm pretty stoked for Wii-U as it is, this is just a wishlist.

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#50 WreckEm711
Member since 2010 • 7362 Posts
Games. That's all it needs for me :) of course I want bells and whistles and great online, but if it's got the games, it's got my money