What do you want from Rare this e3?

You know, it's odd. Even though I hated Rare for the "Sequel" to Banjo-Tooie, I still have a kernel of hope that they can make up for it at e3. So' y'all know the drill, so get voting!

I cant find my n64 KI gold... make a new one please :P

new banjo's always my hope. I would like to see a new Killer Instinct as well though. IDC tbh, everything Rare makes is pretty much solid amazingness for me soI dont care what franchise they draw there next game out of, or if its a completely new IP.

Any of those and Killer Instinct XBLA. They better show something too...

Perfect Dark 2...with uncahrted 2 type graphics

A return to Nintendo announcement.

A real sequel to banjo-kazooieweb966

Kameo 2 please.

Kameo 2 please.

Snugenz

Wow! I thought Killer Instinct 3 would be on top. I don't even think they have to remake it. Just give us an updated HD version, like they did with Marvel vs Campcom 2 on Xbox Live/PSN. I still have my copy for my N64, but I really don't like the N64's controller. Spinal all the way!!!

To disband. Or make a game half as good as their N64 era games. 110million

never have I been more tempted to start trolling on system wars like ever :P What do you have against there releases this gen? outside of PDZ there games have all really been about equal in quality to some of there past ones, I mean true they didnt reach the pinnacles of awesomness that the BK, DK PD or Goldeneye games were as far as ratings go, but really when compared to there smaller franchises like Jet Force Gemini or Blast Corps the games now are just as good as they were back then

[QUOTE="web966"]A real sequel to banjo-kazooiegmc2u_64

I'd call perfect dark zero more criminal then nuts and bolts, its not like they pulled an activision and just slapped together a half assed project and called it a day, they really did spend a lot of development time and effort on nuts and bolts

there games have all really been about equal in quality to some of there past ones, I mean true they didnt reach the pinnacles of awesomness that the BK, DK PD or Goldeneye games were as far as ratings godragonfly110

Goldeneye was legendary, it has a footprint in history unlike many other games, Banjo was mario 64 with a bear, DK was mario 64.. with DK... I haven't been able to play any of their games this gen for more than half an hour, Banjo and DK on N64 were a blast, coulden't stop playing, can still go back now and play for a long time, I bought the new banjo thinking "ha, people hating on it don't know anything, banjo is awesome", apparantly I was wrong.

I mean so much was annoying about the game, whats with the lack of voice acting, on N64 they had about a 1:1 ratio for voice to written word, now on 360 so many years later, they speak 2 or 3 words than a paragraph of text appears, wtf? That might seem incredibly minor, but it made me angry every conversation. That is also ignoring the gameplay which I had no fun with.

I honestly don't think a single RARE title past N64 era is even 30% as good as their N64 ones, thats why I think 50% is a good place to aim.

[QUOTE="dragonfly110"] there games have all really been about equal in quality to some of there past ones, I mean true they didnt reach the pinnacles of awesomness that the BK, DK PD or Goldeneye games were as far as ratings go110million

Goldeneye was legendary, it has a footprint in history unlike many other games, Banjo was mario 64 with a bear, DK was mario 64.. with DK... I haven't been able to play any of their games this gen for more than half an hour, Banjo and DK on N64 were a blast, coulden't stop playing, can still go back now and play for a long time, I bought the new banjo thinking "ha, people hating on it don't know anything, banjo is awesome", apparantly I was wrong.

I mean so much was annoying about the game, whats with the lack of voice acting, on N64 they had about a 1:1 ratio for voice to written word, now on 360 so many years later, they speak 2 or 3 words than a paragraph of text appears, wtf? That might seem incredibly minor, but it made me angry every conversation. That is also ignoring the gameplay which I had no fun with.

I honestly don't think a single RARE title past N64 era is even 30% as good as their N64 ones, thats why I think 50% is a good place to aim.

Donkey Kong is nothhing like Mario 64, admittedly Banjo Kazooie is like it but Tooe and DK 64 really outside of them being in the same genre have almost no similarities with it, I mean its like saying that Halo and Cod are the same game because they are both FPS's

I cant say anything about the banjo kazooie thing, the voices in the new one did annoy me I admit, but you not liking the gameplay is strictly your opinion.

Donkey Kong is nothhing like Mario 64, admittedly Banjo Kazooie is like it but Tooe and DK 64 really outside of them being in the same genre have almost no similarities with it, I mean its like saying that Halo and Cod are the same game because they are both FPS's

I cant say anything about the banjo kazooie thing, the voices in the new one did annoy me I admit, but you not liking the gameplay is strictly your opinion.dragonfly110

[QUOTE="dragonfly110"]Donkey Kong is nothhing like Mario 64, admittedly Banjo Kazooie is like it but Tooe and DK 64 really outside of them being in the same genre have almost no similarities with it, I mean its like saying that Halo and Cod are the same game because they are both FPS's

I cant say anything about the banjo kazooie thing, the voices in the new one did annoy me I admit, but you not liking the gameplay is strictly your opinion.110million

cod>advance from level to level defeating marine bad guy

halo>advance from level to level beating alien bad guy.

see what I did there? Just because the general core concept was the same does not make Tooie and DK64 mario 64 clones, for one Mario 64>>>>>DK64 (I still prefer tooie to both though) and tbh is a different game, in Tooie and 64 you are dropped into an open world structured environment and defeat challenges at your own will, in mario you are dropped into a usually smaller structured area and you select the challenge to complete from a menu and you can then beat one challenge and one challenge only before you are dropped back to the hub and select a new level from the menu.

Im not saying one is better then the other (well actually I am, M64>DK64 :P) Im just saying they really arent all that similar, even as far as move sets go outside of the core jump/ground pound combo they both go in completely different directions

I agree with 110. Banjo and DK were glorified mario 64 clones. Great games, but atleast the new Banjo felt more like you know. A true Banjo game. The original 2 banjo games were mario 64 clones with a bear and a bird. That said Banjo nuts and bolts needed a bit more tightening up. The addictiveness of building stuff with legos was fun, and there was some satisfaction with using your vehicles, but it also was a bit tedious.

Also the new Viva Pinata games>any rare game from the 64 era at this point in time. Those 64 games were great when they were out. PD sucks ass, and it shows in the new XBLA release. So freakin dated. Goldeneye is dog trash. I'm sorry I never went to the "but it has such an improtant role in gaming history so its still good" school of thought. It's impact can't be denied and bless PD and Goldeneye for the gems taht they were when they came out. Today? they can go **** themselves for how bad they are. Viva Pinata? man that game is fun.

Rare more stuff thats as fun as viva pinata. Less kameo and PDZ, or at the least make something nuts and bolts level but more consistant with the fun, and a bit more modernised in presentation.

If Banjo Threeie is as bad as Banjo Tooie then I don't want it, and I love Rare.

That said I wouldn't mind an awesome Battletoads game. Picture Batman: AA, but with a toad.

Either way, RARE of now, still fails terribly compared to RARE of then. On top of all that, Star Fox 64, the LAST good Star Fox game. Their SNES era games were wicked awesome too, I've played through the DKC series half a dozen times each game. And again, I can't even get into any of their games this gen, that is what I'm trying to say. 110million

Rare only made Starfox adventures though. unless your sayin like that marked there downfall I didnt mind it, admittedly as a starfox game it sucked, but as an adventure game it was pretty legit.

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[QUOTE="web966"]A real sequel to banjo-kazooiedragonfly110

I'd call perfect dark zero more criminal then nuts and bolts, its not like they pulled an activision and just slapped together a half assed project and called it a day, they really did spend a lot of development time and effort on nuts and bolts

Either way, RARE of now, still fails terribly compared to RARE of then. On top of all that, Star Fox 64, the LAST good Star Fox game. Their SNES era games were wicked awesome too, I've played through the DKC series half a dozen times each game. And again, I can't even get into any of their games this gen, that is what I'm trying to say. 110million

If Banjo Threeie is as bad as Banjo Tooie then I don't want it, and I love Rare.

That said I wouldn't mind an awesome Battletoads game. Picture Batman: AA, but with a toad.

treedoor

why didnt you like banjo tooie? I can see some of the hate for nuts and bolts even though I love it, but Tooie was an amazing game, I know its your opinion and IM not knocking it, im just curious why you hated it.

I always feel like such a troll when Rare topics come up cuz i defend them to the core :P

[QUOTE="110million"]Either way, RARE of now, still fails terribly compared to RARE of then. On top of all that, Star Fox 64, the LAST good Star Fox game. Their SNES era games were wicked awesome too, I've played through the DKC series half a dozen times each game. And again, I can't even get into any of their games this gen, that is what I'm trying to say. dragonfly110

Rare only made Starfox adventures though. unless your sayin like that marked there downfall I didnt mind it, admittedly as a starfox game it sucked, but as an adventure game it was pretty legit.

If you aren't voting for Killer Instinct 3
YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG!!

:P:P

[QUOTE="110million"]Either way, RARE of now, still fails terribly compared to RARE of then. On top of all that, Star Fox 64, the LAST good Star Fox game. Their SNES era games were wicked awesome too, I've played through the DKC series half a dozen times each game. And again, I can't even get into any of their games this gen, that is what I'm trying to say. jg4xchamp

Id agree on mid teir I suppose, I wouldnt say low tier though seeing as this gen nothing to my knowlege has scored lower then an 8 here on gamespot besides the first VP(feel free to link something proving me wrong)

screw that starfox adventures was fun as hell. it wasn't a starfox game, but man that game was fun. Consistant, polished, not overly tedious. It was still more fun than anything they've made recently not named viva pinatajg4xchamp

I agree, although I wish they got to keep it the way they wanted and have it be an original IP, that way it wouldnt get the hate for not bein a true sequel.

[QUOTE="treedoor"]

If Banjo Threeie is as bad as Banjo Tooie then I don't want it, and I love Rare.

That said I wouldn't mind an awesome Battletoads game. Picture Batman: AA, but with a toad.

dragonfly110

why didnt you like banjo tooie? I can see some of the hate for nuts and bolts even though I love it, but Tooie was an amazing game, I know its your opinion and IM not knocking it, im just curious why you hated it.

I always feel like such a troll when Rare topics come up cuz i defend them to the core :P

Because there is a lot.........A LOT.......A LOOOOOOOOOOOT of backtracking!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That's bad game design.

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[QUOTE="treedoor"]

If Banjo Threeie is as bad as Banjo Tooie then I don't want it, and I love Rare.

That said I wouldn't mind an awesome Battletoads game. Picture Batman: AA, but with a toad.

treedoor

why didnt you like banjo tooie? I can see some of the hate for nuts and bolts even though I love it, but Tooie was an amazing game, I know its your opinion and IM not knocking it, im just curious why you hated it.

I always feel like such a troll when Rare topics come up cuz i defend them to the core :P

Because there is a lot.........A LOT.......A LOOOOOOOOOOOT of backtracking!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That's bad game design.

I guess there is a lot, IDK though I loved the level design of that game so much, the back tracking was more of a treat then a chore for me. Only game by them I hated the backtracking in was DK64, I hated all but like 2 of the levels in that game :x

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]screw that starfox adventures was fun as hell. it wasn't a starfox game, but man that game was fun. Consistant, polished, not overly tedious. It was still more fun than anything they've made recently not named viva pinatadragonfly110

I agree, although I wish they got to keep it the way they wanted and have it be an original IP, that way it wouldnt get the hate for not bein a true sequel.

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[QUOTE="treedoor"]

If Banjo Threeie is as bad as Banjo Tooie then I don't want it, and I love Rare.

That said I wouldn't mind an awesome Battletoads game. Picture Batman: AA, but with a toad.

treedoor

why didnt you like banjo tooie? I can see some of the hate for nuts and bolts even though I love it, but Tooie was an amazing game, I know its your opinion and IM not knocking it, im just curious why you hated it.

I always feel like such a troll when Rare topics come up cuz i defend them to the core :P

Because there is a lot.........A LOT.......A LOOOOOOOOOOOT of backtracking!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That's bad game design.

[QUOTE="dragonfly110"]

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]screw that starfox adventures was fun as hell. it wasn't a starfox game, but man that game was fun. Consistant, polished, not overly tedious. It was still more fun than anything they've made recently not named viva pinata110million

I agree, although I wish they got to keep it the way they wanted and have it be an original IP, that way it wouldnt get the hate for not bein a true sequel.

I guess Krystal cuz shes got the bikini thing, but none of the other characters in Adventure seemed really overly sexualized to me really, I mean slippy's hot of course but he's been sexy since the original :P besides you should like it, you ARE a member of FUFU arent you?

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="110million"]Either way, RARE of now, still fails terribly compared to RARE of then. On top of all that, Star Fox 64, the LAST good Star Fox game. Their SNES era games were wicked awesome too, I've played through the DKC series half a dozen times each game. And again, I can't even get into any of their games this gen, that is what I'm trying to say. dragonfly110

Id agree on mid teir I suppose, I wouldnt say low tier though seeing as this gen nothing to my knowlege has scored lower then an 8 here on gamespot besides the first VP(feel free to link something proving me wrong)

[QUOTE="110million"][QUOTE="dragonfly110"]

I agree, although I wish they got to keep it the way they wanted and have it be an original IP, that way it wouldnt get the hate for not bein a true sequel.

dragonfly110

I guess Krystal cuz shes got the bikini thing, but none of the other characters in Adventure seemed really overly sexualized to me really, I mean slippy's hot of course but he's been sexy since the original :P besides you should like it, you ARE a member of FUFU arent you?

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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"] No can't argue that. In the SNES/64 era they were an industry juggernaut in 2010 you can write up a hit list of developers superior to them. They went from being God Tier to middle to almsot low tier. jg4xchamp

Id agree on mid teir I suppose, I wouldnt say low tier though seeing as this gen nothing to my knowlege has scored lower then an 8 here on gamespot besides the first VP(feel free to link something proving me wrong)

I liked the level design in kameo a lot actually, but yea I get hte uninspired thing, if the art and grpahics werent so gorgeous I probably wouldnt give it more then one glance.

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[QUOTE="110million"] Star Fox Adventures instantly failed for every character going from animal character to gross furry who makes me want to hurl. Even the SF64 creators said Star Fox is a bunch of furry **** now. 110million

I guess Krystal cuz shes got the bikini thing, but none of the other characters in Adventure seemed really overly sexualized to me really, I mean slippy's hot of course but he's been sexy since the original :P besides you should like it, you ARE a member of FUFU arent you?

well that wasnt really Rare's fault, I mean you need to have a more humanoid prottagonist for the kind of game adventure was, and if you look into it Rare originally created there own characters for the game so it was its own universe, nintendo just butted in and made them use the Starfox universe probably to boost sales.

[QUOTE="110million"][QUOTE="dragonfly110"]

I agree, although I wish they got to keep it the way they wanted and have it be an original IP, that way it wouldnt get the hate for not bein a true sequel.

dragonfly110

I guess Krystal cuz shes got the bikini thing, but none of the other characters in Adventure seemed really overly sexualized to me really, I mean slippy's hot of course but he's been sexy since the original :P besides you should like it, you ARE a member of FUFU arent you?

[QUOTE="dragonfly110"]

[QUOTE="110million"] Star Fox Adventures instantly failed for every character going from animal character to gross furry who makes me want to hurl. Even the SF64 creators said Star Fox is a bunch of furry **** now. gmc2u_64

I guess Krystal cuz shes got the bikini thing, but none of the other characters in Adventure seemed really overly sexualized to me really, I mean slippy's hot of course but he's been sexy since the original :P besides you should like it, you ARE a member of FUFU arent you?

yep, lol :P I take it your sarcasm detector's turned off atm?

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[QUOTE="dragonfly110"]

why didnt you like banjo tooie? I can see some of the hate for nuts and bolts even though I love it, but Tooie was an amazing game, I know its your opinion and IM not knocking it, im just curious why you hated it.

I always feel like such a troll when Rare topics come up cuz i defend them to the core :P

dragonfly110

Because there is a lot.........A LOT.......A LOOOOOOOOOOOT of backtracking!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That's bad game design.

I guess there is a lot, IDK though I loved the level design of that game so much, the back tracking was more of a treat then a chore for me. Only game by them I hated the backtracking in was DK64, I hated all but like 2 of the levels in that game :x

It really halted progression for me.

In Banjo Kazooie you can go into Mumbo's Mountain, or Clanker's Cavern, or any place and get all the jiggies, and notes, and be done, so you always feel like you're progressing.

In Tooie you find yourself confused as to how you obtain a jiggy, then you leave the level, and a few worlds later Wumba gives you a power that let's you get a jiggy from a previous level, but by then you might not even remember that jiggy. It annoys the crap out of me.

I've beaten Kazooie a bazillion times, and I only beat Tooie once and that's because I love Rare. I can not beat it again though.

And yes, DK64 also has a ton of backtracking. Do a task with one monkey, then go all the way back to the barrel, get another monkey, and do the same task again 5 times :P So bad.

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[QUOTE="dragonfly110"]

I guess Krystal cuz shes got the bikini thing, but none of the other characters in Adventure seemed really overly sexualized to me really, I mean slippy's hot of course but he's been sexy since the original :P besides you should like it, you ARE a member of FUFU arent you?

dragonfly110

yep, lol :P I take it your sarcasm detector's turned off atm?

[QUOTE="dragonfly110"]

[QUOTE="gmc2u_64"] Slippy? Isn't he that fat-ass toad who's cajones haven't dropped yet? Whose voice is either highpitch or cracky?

gmc2u_64

yep, lol :P I take it your sarcasm detector's turned off atm?

yea its pretty awesome I guess lol

[QUOTE="110million"]To disband. Or make a game half as good as their N64 era games. dragonfly110

never have I been more tempted to start trolling on system wars like ever :P What do you have against there releases this gen? outside of PDZ there games have all really been about equal in quality to some of there past ones, I mean true they didnt reach the pinnacles of awesomness that the BK, DK PD or Goldeneye games were as far as ratings go, but really when compared to there smaller franchises like Jet Force Gemini or Blast Corps the games now are just as good as they were back then

Yeah the difference of today and now is they're with Microsoft and not Nintendo. I can totally see Rare do better if they were with Nintendo Now than Microsoft.

screw that starfox adventures was fun as hell. it wasn't a starfox game, but man that game was fun. Consistant, polished, not overly tedious. It was still more fun than anything they've made recently not named viva pinatajg4xchamp

honestly any of the ones you listed (or Kameo but I don't think we'll be seeing that), except for killer instinct. Not that it's a bad game, I'm sure its a great series... just not my thing

arent they only rare by name? not the same talent on board anymore.hamhero