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Poll Was Fable always mid? (55 votes)

It's a premium exclusive (on PC as well) 36%
It's mid 45%
It's worse than mid 18%
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Hello, was looking at the Fable reaction and it seems I'm not alone in my apathy towards this franchise.

It seems to be much like Sonys "Resistance" series, in that nobody seems to give a shit about it and it never reaches the pedigree of what a "hot" exclusive should be, namely a system seller.

Is this bias from someone who played them and decided they are bad, or in fact, reality?

Richard Ayoade is alright.

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#1  Edited By Pedro
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Yes! Like many of the highly acclaimed Xbox games that received a lot of praise during the 360 era, Fable is mid and has yet to level up beyond that. I place it in the same boat as the many highly praised mediocre JRPGs.

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#2 Archangel3371
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Yeah. I really enjoyed them and all but were certainly mid games. Am very interested in seeing how this one from Playground Games turns out.

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#3 TheEroica  Moderator
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Kinda of yeah.... But I think it depends on what aspect youre focused on... Gameplay? Yeah not the best action mechanics, but not bad either... Story? Same... Open world had charm and always had that potential to be next tier fantasy action, but I don't know that we've seen the franchise at peak potential.

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#4  Edited By madrocketeer
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Yup. It's okay. Just okay.

It's only especially notable because Peter Molyneux hyped it to the Moon and back. That dude is a gifted salesman, I give him that.

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#5 KathaarianCode
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The original isn't great.

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#6 hardwenzen
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I enjoyed the original quite a bit, but that's not because the game was amazing, but because my standards at that time were low as hell. I still think that for its time it was a good game, but because it was way too short with barely any content, its like a 7/10 title from me. The sequels aren't even worth talking about because they weren't anywhere near as good for their time.

With fromsoft, Larian, Dragon Age Origins, dragon's dogma, etc, Fable is just mid tier at best, and certainly not a system seller like it once was. All the humor in it is FAR superior in BG3 and both Divinity titles.

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The first one was pretty great for its time and introduced a lot of original ideas. The sequels were pretty bad though!

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#8 judaspete
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It's mid and always has been, but it had enough unique ideas to make it more memorable than your average mid game. It's like the prequel trilogy. It doesn't succeed at everything it's trying to do, but I can respect it's ambitions and appreciate what it's going for.

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#9 UItravioIence
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Mid to low tier

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#10  Edited By dracula_16
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The first one was, but the second one was quite good, in my view. The dog was a bit of an annoyance, though. Fable 2 also had a very predictable ending. With that said, being a saint and being the most evil person possible was fun. It gives you incentive to play through the game more than once.

Overall I would say that it's a good series. Definitely not on par with Dragon Age: Origins, Pokemon X/Y or Oblivion, though.

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#11 dabear
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@uninspiredcup: Fable 1 fell short. Fable 2 was AAA, Fable 3 was better than 2 but worse than 2.

So...

Meh

Awesomeness

Meh, but less meh than 1

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I enjoyed the games and will buy the newest one unless Playground somehow screw it up.

Oh, and most of you people are adults (I presume) why are you using teenager language such as mid 🤮

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#13 hardwenzen
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@last_lap said:

I enjoyed the games and will buy the newest one unless Playground somehow screw it up.

Oh, and most of you people are adults (I presume) why are you using teenager language such as mid 🤮

The game has been in development hell for like five years minimum, and you think the chances of them screwing up is low? Its a game made for gamepass in mind, you should already know how these games turn out.

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#14  Edited By HalcyonScarlet
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Idk, but I feel like MS is rushing this one, and I don’t get why the FH developer is doing it.

MS now has developers who have more experience in the genre.

If Playground Games wants to try something else, I think there are other genres to try first.

Or at least try out an AA non branded RPG to warm up on first. I think this is a mistake.

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#15 hardwenzen
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@HalcyonScarlet said:

Idk, but I feel like MS is rushing this one, and I don’t get why the FH developer is doing it.

MS now has developers who have more experience in the genre.

If Playground Games wants to try something else, I think there are other genres to try first.

Or at least try out an AA non branded RPG to warm up on first. I think this is a mistake.

Of course its a mistake, its made by Microsoft, they have been failing at everything for well over a decade.

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Personally I would say that Fable was a bit below mid for me, but I still enjoyed them enough, and look forward to the next installment.

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@hardwenzen said:
@last_lap said:

I enjoyed the games and will buy the newest one unless Playground somehow screw it up.

Oh, and most of you people are adults (I presume) why are you using teenager language such as mid 🤮

The game has been in development hell for like five years minimum, and you think the chances of them screwing up is low? Its a game made for gamepass in mind, you should already know how these games turn out.

What does that even mean, without trolling explain what made with GP in mind means.

The floors all yours wenzen.

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#18 Litchie
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Yeah, average stuff.

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#19 BenjaminBanklin
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Yeah. The better game was 2. Peter Molyneux over-promised on the first one, and that let people down. 2 was maybe closer to what was promised, and was okay. Then three came and was meh as hell. I don't know what Playground has in store for the new one, but I don't know if I can get excited for a new installment by car game devs.

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#20  Edited By blaznwiipspman1
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@last_lap said:

I enjoyed the games and will buy the newest one unless Playground somehow screw it up.

Oh, and most of you people are adults (I presume) why are you using teenager language such as mid 🤮

just geezers trying to feel young, nothing wrong with that.

your post is also mid.

Also, this game is going to be mind blowingly amazing, guaranteed.

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#21 Fedor
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Yes, absolutely.

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#22  Edited By judaspete
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@last_lap: Puke emojis are so cringe. 🙂

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@blaznwiipspman1 said:
@last_lap said:

I enjoyed the games and will buy the newest one unless Playground somehow screw it up.

Oh, and most of you people are adults (I presume) why are you using teenager language such as mid 🤮

just geezers trying to feel young, nothing wrong with that.

your post is also mid.

Also, this game is going to be mind blowingly amazing, guaranteed.

Your post is dumb as 💩

I'm one of if not the biggest Playground Games fan here, but they are well skilled in racing games (they are the best in the racing genre) so I have some legitimate concerns about Fable's gameplay/combat, but they are an amazing team so I will be giving them the benefit of the doubt on the game and believe they can do the series justice. So, until we see some more of the game they've earned the benefit of the doubt over this game.

You on the other hand shill EVERYTHING MS does, which means you have no conviction. You saying it will be mind-blowing amazing guaranteed is as believable as Phil Spencer saying he still believes in physical media.

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#24 sakaiXx
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Overall it was mid. Never understood how the series still relevant and lems anticipate new entries. Only Fable 2 that I enjoyed the rest was pretty average. Fable 3 made me realize having a menu is actually good and I never complained about menus in most games since then.

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#25 JoshRMeyer
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@last_lap: “ Oh, and most of you people are adults (I presume) why are you using teenager language such as mid 🤮”

🤣 Glad I’m not the only one who thought this.

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@judaspete said:

@last_lap: Puke emojis are so cringe. 🙂

Emoji's in general are cringe, is that all you took form my comment 🤮🤮🤮

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#27 AcidTango
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I never played any of the Fable games so I don't know if they were ever good or bad.

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#28 uninspiredcup
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@AcidTango said:

I never played any of the Fable games so I don't know if they were ever good or bad.

Pretty mid.

Play Divinity instead (presumably you are)

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Fable 1 and 3 were definitely mid.

Fable 2 was a great game that could've been so much more.

Its like they had the bones of a British fantasy RPG where choices matter, only to be held back by Peter Molneux's weird development habits.

A magic box? Seriously?

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@last_lap said:
@hardwenzen said:
@last_lap said:

I enjoyed the games and will buy the newest one unless Playground somehow screw it up.

Oh, and most of you people are adults (I presume) why are you using teenager language such as mid 🤮

The game has been in development hell for like five years minimum, and you think the chances of them screwing up is low? Its a game made for gamepass in mind, you should already know how these games turn out.

What does that even mean, without trolling explain what made with GP in mind means.

The floors all yours wenzen.

I thought you already knew? Very weird.

A game that is made for gamepass in mind, is a game that is not guaranteed to even recoup the cost of development. So games launch in a half assed state, even when compared to its previous titles. I don't think you need me to mention the likes of Forza, Infinite, Redfall, Starfield, etc. Why do you think Hellblade2 is $50 instead of a standard price? These are unfinished titles with very little effort put into them, and this is the state of the Made For Gamepass In Mind, which, just like straight-to-dvd movie, its shit. Low budget titles aren't suffering from this, and HiFi Rush is a good example, but if we're talking about big AA and especially AAA titles, i mean, they're royally f*cked to say the least, and its not about to change any time soon.

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@last_lap: well as I said, I'm not a huge fan of these rpg games, but I think we're going to see some unique ideas from pg, who were only doing racing games up to this point. I thought the open world they built in horizons was great and probably going to be used in some form in fable.

What can i say, MS just keeps blasting it out of the park and keep pushing me to buy their products. I recently purchased another windows, and going to resubscribe to office, not to mention ganepass. Also I dont always agree with everything MS does, but they keep pushing out bangers and masterpiece titles, most importantly providing value for the gamers. Saint Phil for the gamers, hes the man that will lead is to the promised land.

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#32 RatchetClank92
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Mediocre? Yes I would say it is.

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#33  Edited By Last_Lap
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@hardwenzen said:
@last_lap said:
@hardwenzen said:
@last_lap said:

I enjoyed the games and will buy the newest one unless Playground somehow screw it up.

Oh, and most of you people are adults (I presume) why are you using teenager language such as mid 🤮

The game has been in development hell for like five years minimum, and you think the chances of them screwing up is low? Its a game made for gamepass in mind, you should already know how these games turn out.

What does that even mean, without trolling explain what made with GP in mind means.

The floors all yours wenzen.

I thought you already knew? Very weird.

A game that is made for gamepass in mind, is a game that is not guaranteed to even recoup the cost of development. So games launch in a half assed state, even when compared to its previous titles. I don't think you need me to mention the likes of Forza, Infinite, Redfall, Starfield, etc. Why do you think Hellblade2 is $50 instead of a standard price? These are unfinished titles with very little effort put into them, and this is the state of the Made For Gamepass In Mind, which, just like straight-to-dvd movie, its shit. Low budget titles aren't suffering from this, and HiFi Rush is a good example, but if we're talking about big AA and especially AAA titles, i mean, they're royally f*cked to say the least, and its not about to change any time soon.

Are you a child? serious question.

So about 90% of the gaming industry make Gamepass games because they don't know if they'll recoup their cost of the game, what a dumbarse way of thinking.

Secondly, the first Hellbalde released at the same price as the second game is, there goes that theory.

As for half arsed state, could you name a game that was released in a half arsed state compared to its previous titles.

Yes, best we don't mention Halo, Forza Horizon, Starfield etc because they don't fit your stupid narrative.

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@blaznwiipspman1 said:

@last_lap: well as I said, I'm not a huge fan of these rpg games, but I think we're going to see some unique ideas from pg, who were only doing racing games up to this point. I thought the open world they built in horizons was great and probably going to be used in some form in fable.

What can i say, MS just keeps blasting it out of the park and keep pushing me to buy their products. I recently purchased another windows, and going to resubscribe to office, not to mention ganepass. Also I dont always agree with everything MS does, but they keep pushing out bangers and masterpiece titles, most importantly providing value for the gamers. Saint Phil for the gamers, hes the man that will lead is to the promised land.

You just proved my point, you don't care for these games and yet have to shill it anyway, I think you've said enough already for anyone not to take your opinion seriously.

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I thought Fable 2 was above average, but at same time memorable as a failure of sorts mostly because Peter Molyneux leading up to its release promised a potential it never achieved with its online features, likely because he let his ambition get ahead of what they could pull of in its development. Somewhat comparable perhaps to Sean Murray's ambition for No Man's Sky he never achieved upon its release, though not to same degree.

The first Fable I really liked from a mechanics standpoint, but I feel its marketing focused on player choice and choosing one's own path for good or evil or something in between. Thought I felt there was never any major choices of consequence throughout the game and this marketing angle really came down to an end of game choice which felt like a bait and switch when I first played it. Probably more comparable itself to Deus Ex Human Revolution in that regard, as it was marketed as a game of choice, like choosing between preserving your humanity or embracing cybernetic augmentation. Again, a bait and switch because there too it came to an end of game choice.

Never did play Fable 3. Anyhow, for their times, the first two were above average. I don't imagine these are games that aged well though so no doubt now going back to them they'd definitely feel mid quality at best.

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#36  Edited By Last_Lap
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@lamprey263 said:

I thought Fable 2 was above average, but at same time memorable as a failure of sorts mostly because Peter Molyneux leading up to its release promised a potential it never achieved with its online features, likely because he let his ambition get ahead of what they could pull of in its development. Somewhat comparable perhaps to Sean Murray's ambition for No Man's Sky he never achieved upon its release, though not to same degree.

The first Fable I really liked from a mechanics standpoint, but I feel its marketing focused on player choice and choosing one's own path for good or evil or something in between. Thought I felt there was never any major choices of consequence throughout the game and this marketing angle really came down to an end of game choice which felt like a bait and switch when I first played it. Probably more comparable itself to Deus Ex Human Revolution in that regard, as it was marketed as a game of choice, like choosing between preserving your humanity or embracing cybernetic augmentation. Again, a bait and switch because there too it came to an end of game choice.

Never did play Fable 3. Anyhow, for their times, the first two were above average. I don't imagine these are games that aged well though so no doubt now going back to them they'd definitely feel mid quality at best.

I don't get this analogy when people say this. Some of my favourite games are from the 90's and I still play them, they still play great and are timeless, so when people say they didn't age well is kinda weird.

Especially the Fable games where you use mostly the same type of control scheme as most open world games these days.

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#37 hardwenzen
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@last_lap said:
@hardwenzen said:
@last_lap said:
@hardwenzen said:
@last_lap said:

I enjoyed the games and will buy the newest one unless Playground somehow screw it up.

Oh, and most of you people are adults (I presume) why are you using teenager language such as mid 🤮

The game has been in development hell for like five years minimum, and you think the chances of them screwing up is low? Its a game made for gamepass in mind, you should already know how these games turn out.

What does that even mean, without trolling explain what made with GP in mind means.

The floors all yours wenzen.

I thought you already knew? Very weird.

A game that is made for gamepass in mind, is a game that is not guaranteed to even recoup the cost of development. So games launch in a half assed state, even when compared to its previous titles. I don't think you need me to mention the likes of Forza, Infinite, Redfall, Starfield, etc. Why do you think Hellblade2 is $50 instead of a standard price? These are unfinished titles with very little effort put into them, and this is the state of the Made For Gamepass In Mind, which, just like straight-to-dvd movie, its shit. Low budget titles aren't suffering from this, and HiFi Rush is a good example, but if we're talking about big AA and especially AAA titles, i mean, they're royally f*cked to say the least, and its not about to change any time soon.

Are you a child? serious question.

So about 90% of the gaming industry make Gamepass games because they don't know if they'll recoup their cost of the game, what a dumbarse way of thinking.

Secondly, the first Hellbalde released at the same price as the second game is, there goes that theory.

As for half arsed state, could you name a game that was released in a half arsed state compared to its previous titles.

Yes, best we don't mention Halo, Forza Horizon, Starfield etc because they don't fit your stupid narrative.

Did i struck a nerve, or something?

Do you want me to remind you every single time a new AA/AAA MS title comes out, to let you know how heavily flawed and featureless every title is because its made for gamepass? I've been reminding Dabear for quite some time now, and i don't mind doing it to you as well. Sooner or later you will learn, and that might push you to the Blue side, the right side to be on.

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@hardwenzen said:
@last_lap said:
@hardwenzen said:
@last_lap said:
@hardwenzen said:

The game has been in development hell for like five years minimum, and you think the chances of them screwing up is low? Its a game made for gamepass in mind, you should already know how these games turn out.

What does that even mean, without trolling explain what made with GP in mind means.

The floors all yours wenzen.

I thought you already knew? Very weird.

A game that is made for gamepass in mind, is a game that is not guaranteed to even recoup the cost of development. So games launch in a half assed state, even when compared to its previous titles. I don't think you need me to mention the likes of Forza, Infinite, Redfall, Starfield, etc. Why do you think Hellblade2 is $50 instead of a standard price? These are unfinished titles with very little effort put into them, and this is the state of the Made For Gamepass In Mind, which, just like straight-to-dvd movie, its shit. Low budget titles aren't suffering from this, and HiFi Rush is a good example, but if we're talking about big AA and especially AAA titles, i mean, they're royally f*cked to say the least, and its not about to change any time soon.

Are you a child? serious question.

So about 90% of the gaming industry make Gamepass games because they don't know if they'll recoup their cost of the game, what a dumbarse way of thinking.

Secondly, the first Hellbalde released at the same price as the second game is, there goes that theory.

As for half arsed state, could you name a game that was released in a half arsed state compared to its previous titles.

Yes, best we don't mention Halo, Forza Horizon, Starfield etc because they don't fit your stupid narrative.

Did i struck a nerve, or something?

Do you want me to remind you every single time a new AA/AAA MS title comes out, to let you know how heavily flawed and featureless every title is because its made for gamepass? I've been reminding Dabear for quite some time now, and i don't mind doing it to you as well. Sooner or later you will learn, and that might push you to the Blue side, the right side to be on.

You couldn't strike a nerve, the reason I asked is because your narrative is childlike.

And I busted your narrative with facts, that's why your response doesn't try to negate ANYTHING I said.

The simple fact is that there is no game made with Gamepass in mind, that's just cows and their fallacies.

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#39 hardwenzen
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@last_lap said:
@hardwenzen said:
@last_lap said:
@hardwenzen said:
@last_lap said:

What does that even mean, without trolling explain what made with GP in mind means.

The floors all yours wenzen.

I thought you already knew? Very weird.

A game that is made for gamepass in mind, is a game that is not guaranteed to even recoup the cost of development. So games launch in a half assed state, even when compared to its previous titles. I don't think you need me to mention the likes of Forza, Infinite, Redfall, Starfield, etc. Why do you think Hellblade2 is $50 instead of a standard price? These are unfinished titles with very little effort put into them, and this is the state of the Made For Gamepass In Mind, which, just like straight-to-dvd movie, its shit. Low budget titles aren't suffering from this, and HiFi Rush is a good example, but if we're talking about big AA and especially AAA titles, i mean, they're royally f*cked to say the least, and its not about to change any time soon.

Are you a child? serious question.

So about 90% of the gaming industry make Gamepass games because they don't know if they'll recoup their cost of the game, what a dumbarse way of thinking.

Secondly, the first Hellbalde released at the same price as the second game is, there goes that theory.

As for half arsed state, could you name a game that was released in a half arsed state compared to its previous titles.

Yes, best we don't mention Halo, Forza Horizon, Starfield etc because they don't fit your stupid narrative.

Did i struck a nerve, or something?

Do you want me to remind you every single time a new AA/AAA MS title comes out, to let you know how heavily flawed and featureless every title is because its made for gamepass? I've been reminding Dabear for quite some time now, and i don't mind doing it to you as well. Sooner or later you will learn, and that might push you to the Blue side, the right side to be on.

You couldn't strike a nerve, the reason I asked is because your narrative is childlike.

And I busted your narrative with facts, that's why your response doesn't try to negate ANYTHING I said.

The simple fact is that there is no game made with Gamepass in mind, that's just cows and their fallacies.

Its so childlike that even you, of all the people, have clearly seen what the lastest Forza is. And lets not pretend like they didn't have time, this has been the forza game with the longest dev time ever, and you still got a pathetic excuse of a video game that was forgotten within 48h, something i've personally never seen before when its Forza related.

Expect the same with avowed, which, if you've seen the latest gameplay video, shit looked like a phone game. This is what you get when your games are built for a renting service that allows the customer to play the whole thing for $1.🤷‍♂️And don't worry, you will learn this the hard way.

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#40 Last_Lap
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@hardwenzen said:
@last_lap said:
@hardwenzen said:
@last_lap said:
@hardwenzen said:

I thought you already knew? Very weird.

A game that is made for gamepass in mind, is a game that is not guaranteed to even recoup the cost of development. So games launch in a half assed state, even when compared to its previous titles. I don't think you need me to mention the likes of Forza, Infinite, Redfall, Starfield, etc. Why do you think Hellblade2 is $50 instead of a standard price? These are unfinished titles with very little effort put into them, and this is the state of the Made For Gamepass In Mind, which, just like straight-to-dvd movie, its shit. Low budget titles aren't suffering from this, and HiFi Rush is a good example, but if we're talking about big AA and especially AAA titles, i mean, they're royally f*cked to say the least, and its not about to change any time soon.

Are you a child? serious question.

So about 90% of the gaming industry make Gamepass games because they don't know if they'll recoup their cost of the game, what a dumbarse way of thinking.

Secondly, the first Hellbalde released at the same price as the second game is, there goes that theory.

As for half arsed state, could you name a game that was released in a half arsed state compared to its previous titles.

Yes, best we don't mention Halo, Forza Horizon, Starfield etc because they don't fit your stupid narrative.

Did i struck a nerve, or something?

Do you want me to remind you every single time a new AA/AAA MS title comes out, to let you know how heavily flawed and featureless every title is because its made for gamepass? I've been reminding Dabear for quite some time now, and i don't mind doing it to you as well. Sooner or later you will learn, and that might push you to the Blue side, the right side to be on.

You couldn't strike a nerve, the reason I asked is because your narrative is childlike.

And I busted your narrative with facts, that's why your response doesn't try to negate ANYTHING I said.

The simple fact is that there is no game made with Gamepass in mind, that's just cows and their fallacies.

Its so childlike that even you, of all the people, have clearly seen what the lastest Forza is. And lets not pretend like they didn't have time, this has been the forza game with the longest dev time ever, and you still got a pathetic excuse of a video game that was forgotten within 48h, something i've personally never seen before when its Forza related.

Expect the same with avowed, which, if you've seen the latest gameplay video, shit looked like a phone game. This is what you get when your games are built for a renting service that allows the customer to play the whole thing for $1.🤷‍♂️And don't worry, you will learn this the hard way.

Forza Motorsport released with over 500 cars, that's at least a 100 more than GT7 did, so I guess GT7 was made with PS+ in mind then. Forza had over 800 upgrades at release and over 20 tracks built from the ground up, but because it had some bad bugs it's made with Gamepass in mind in your mind.

So, I guess that because Spiderman 2 had a ton of bugs and was forgotten within a week it too was made with PS+ in mind, see dumb logic is dumb, but it is your forte.

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#41  Edited By hardwenzen
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@last_lap said:
@hardwenzen said:
@last_lap said:
@hardwenzen said:
@last_lap said:

Are you a child? serious question.

So about 90% of the gaming industry make Gamepass games because they don't know if they'll recoup their cost of the game, what a dumbarse way of thinking.

Secondly, the first Hellbalde released at the same price as the second game is, there goes that theory.

As for half arsed state, could you name a game that was released in a half arsed state compared to its previous titles.

Yes, best we don't mention Halo, Forza Horizon, Starfield etc because they don't fit your stupid narrative.

Did i struck a nerve, or something?

Do you want me to remind you every single time a new AA/AAA MS title comes out, to let you know how heavily flawed and featureless every title is because its made for gamepass? I've been reminding Dabear for quite some time now, and i don't mind doing it to you as well. Sooner or later you will learn, and that might push you to the Blue side, the right side to be on.

You couldn't strike a nerve, the reason I asked is because your narrative is childlike.

And I busted your narrative with facts, that's why your response doesn't try to negate ANYTHING I said.

The simple fact is that there is no game made with Gamepass in mind, that's just cows and their fallacies.

Its so childlike that even you, of all the people, have clearly seen what the lastest Forza is. And lets not pretend like they didn't have time, this has been the forza game with the longest dev time ever, and you still got a pathetic excuse of a video game that was forgotten within 48h, something i've personally never seen before when its Forza related.

Expect the same with avowed, which, if you've seen the latest gameplay video, shit looked like a phone game. This is what you get when your games are built for a renting service that allows the customer to play the whole thing for $1.🤷‍♂️And don't worry, you will learn this the hard way.

Forza Motorsport released with over 500 cars, that's at least a 100 more than GT7 did, so I guess GT7 was made with PS+ in mind then. Forza had over 800 upgrades at release and over 20 tracks built from the ground up, but because it had some bad bugs it's made with Gamepass in mind in your mind.

So, I guess that because Spiderman 2 had a ton of bugs and was forgotten within a week it too was made with PS+ in mind, see dumb logic is dumb, but it is your forte.

Not only are cars looking inferior to GT7's, why do you try to pretend like the amount of cars is what matters most in a racing title? Its the damn feautures that it lacks, and they didn't even deliver on the visuals that were primised. Its very clear to every non fanboy that the standards of a game that is built for gamepass, are noticeably lower than a full priced title.

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@hardwenzen: Where did I say that having more cars is what matters most? oh that's right I didn't, that's just your poor reading comprehension. I will say that more cars are better than less to a racing game fan, but you wouldn't know anything about that.

Next...

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2>1>3

Played 1 on PC only so it was the Lost Chapters version. I'd guess that the original xbox release was pretty disappointing for how short it was without the expansion.

2 was great, 3 was meh. Either way, it's a bummer than MS is not doing a Series/PC remaster release of the trilogy.

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#44  Edited By hardwenzen
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@last_lap said:

@hardwenzen: Where did I say that having more cars is what matters most? oh that's right I didn't, that's just your poor reading comprehension. I will say that more cars are better than less to a racing game fan, but you wouldn't know anything about that.

Next...

You mentioned cars as your first point lmao, it must be so important to you. I don't even play racing games, and even i know that the amount of cars is not important. You really are a fake racing fan enjoyer. Try Cricket games instead.

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#45  Edited By KathaarianCode
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@rmpumper: Do you think 2 holds up? I only played 1 a couple of years ago and it's definitely too dated imo. Some cool ideas but also a lot of awkward ones. Definitely not a timeless classic. Seem like 2 has more fans.

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#46  Edited By Last_Lap
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@hardwenzen said:
@last_lap said:

@hardwenzen: Where did I say that having more cars is what matters most? oh that's right I didn't, that's just your poor reading comprehension. I will say that more cars are better than less to a racing game fan, but you wouldn't know anything about that.

Next...

You mentioned cars as your first point lmao, it must be so important to you. I don't even play racing games, and even i know that the amount of cars is not important. You really are a fake racing fan enjoyer. Try Cricket games instead.

Like I said next...

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I dunno. I watched my roommate play either 1 or 2 a couple years ago, and it intrigued me enough to want to play some day.

I also watched him play HZD, and I that was hard to even witness. That's mid.

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Opinions and all that jazz and in mine they were good,not on the level of an elder scrolls,fallout or witcher.

If they keep the humour,get some varied story driven quests along with the quirky ones and make the Great looking world we know its gonna be interesting then it'll be a banger..Obviously it will get hate from mugs who can't play because of brand loyalty but hey ho.

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#49  Edited By hardwenzen
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@last_lap said:
@hardwenzen said:
@last_lap said:

@hardwenzen: Where did I say that having more cars is what matters most? oh that's right I didn't, that's just your poor reading comprehension. I will say that more cars are better than less to a racing game fan, but you wouldn't know anything about that.

Next...

You mentioned cars as your first point lmao, it must be so important to you. I don't even play racing games, and even i know that the amount of cars is not important. You really are a fake racing fan enjoyer. Try Cricket games instead.

Like I said next...

You got rolled, there's no next. Today, you've learned the Straight To Gamepass strategy from MS. Now you're perfectly aware of the low effort that is being put into all their titles. And let me remind you, Hellblade 2 will be the next title to showcase this to perfection.

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#50 Last_Lap
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@hardwenzen said:
@last_lap said:
@hardwenzen said:
@last_lap said:

@hardwenzen: Where did I say that having more cars is what matters most? oh that's right I didn't, that's just your poor reading comprehension. I will say that more cars are better than less to a racing game fan, but you wouldn't know anything about that.

Next...

You mentioned cars as your first point lmao, it must be so important to you. I don't even play racing games, and even i know that the amount of cars is not important. You really are a fake racing fan enjoyer. Try Cricket games instead.

Like I said next...

You got rolled, there's no next. Today, you've learned the Straight To Gamepass strategy from MS. Now you're perfectly aware of the low effort that is being put into all their titles. And let me remind you, Hellblade 2 will be the next title to showcase this to perfection.

Nah you telling a racing game fan what they want in a racing game, well you rolled yourself, next...