I was here well before the PS4 and Xbox One launched I was actually here shortly after the PS3 launched. I don't recall many claims from cows claiming such, exactly how would they claim it was a Tri SLI 980 when the 980 wasn't announced until after the PS4 released? That sounds like standard system wars hyperbole to me and its the reason i left this place to begin with.
As for DF it should be used for one thing and one thing only and that's comparisons. DF has no zero knowledge of what a platform can and cannot do they can simply tell you what they found and compare various settings.
As for the complete package Crysis 2 was very impressive for its time and Crysis 3 took what was built upon that and improved it further. However the technologies used in that engine are used in current games as well even multi-platform titles that can be found on the PS4 and Xbox one. The sheer amounts of polygons and particles used in current next gen console titles far exceed Crysis 2 and also do it on a much larger scale as Crysis 2 was a fairly linear game. You said you don't think DF was considering uber higher resolutions and frame-rates while comparing Crysis 2 to consoles? Well maybe not but the problem with your argument here is that its an old article and the most impressive console games were not released or even shown yet. The article was from the end of 2013 well before any of the heavy hitters released. Your best looking games on consoles at that time would have been Ryse Son of Rome and Killzone:SF and I don't think many people would consider those the best looking games now on consoles. (Although Ryse may still be the best looking game on the Xbox one). But simply running the game at 30 fps would be a compromise as the consoles are capable of running games at 60fps. However if the consoles can run a game that looks better then Crysis 2 on the PS4 at the same frame-rate that would technically make it more impressive then Crysis 2 would it not? One way to make you better understand my argument would be if Naughty Dog said Sony has given them the rights to release UC4 on the PC and you saw UC 4 running on 980 SLI at beyond 1080p and 100fps would you not consider UC4 better looking and more impressive then Crysis 2?
I don't know everything that was said between all fanboy factions nor do I really care I am simply stating my point of view for this argument. I think there are multiple games that look noticeably better then Crysis 2 on current consoles and are technically more impressive, some exclusive and some multi-platform but that by no means says I think the PS4 is anywhere near as powerful as high end gaming rig.
My bad. It was supposed to say tri SLI 680. I'm so used to typing 980 and 970 now that it slipped my mind. Yes they really said that. There were threads, I can name it if you like the titles were something like KZ:SF KILLZOWNED c3 to bits and the shit like these. I remember this one topic because I brought it back from the dead and you can see the exact same cows bullshiting in it.
You missed the point completely, are consoles powerful enough to do what Crysis 2 did back in 2011 at 1080p60. If not that means they are sacrificing one thing or another in order to get there. I used it to set the bar of the PS4 power. This generation of consoles haven't given as anything that we haven't already seen on PC before, simple. Think of it like this even if you bring down the resolution to 100 x 100 even 360/PS3 would achieve the graphics fidelity of UC4.
So by the 1080p60 point of reference Crysis 2 is not possible on PS4, plain and simple and that's bad for the console that released two years later than a said game.
@jereb31: your controlling the character and aiming, SC cutcutscenes are nothing but cut scenes. Talking about grasping for straws.
Yeah I'll give you that, but pressing 1 button and nothing else is not really a level of control that is brag worthy, I mean UC4 is up there with classics like Super PSTW with that level of control.
@jereb31: You are climbing a rope, aiming and shooting. It's a set piece not a cutscene. You also have full control of the character and are required to jump to other vehicles.
@jereb31: You are climbing a rope, aiming and shooting. It's a set piece not a cutscene. You also have full control of the character and are required to jump to other vehicles.
The part where he is in the Jeep is what I'm referring to obviously, Where all you need to press to escape the jeep is triangle (from that gif anyway).
@jereb31: You are climbing a rope, aiming and shooting. It's a set piece not a cutscene. You also have full control of the character and are required to jump to other vehicles.
Mmmm, most movie games you end up with an illusion of control, or restricted and guided versions during scenes, I would not be surprised that when you move Drake to the edge of the vehicle in roughly the direction of the other jeep that he jumps on his own.
UC4 looks like shit in screenshots with a HUD. Just like The Order.
Look at this POS, blurry rock textures, unshaded grass textures, flat lighting, no PBR, no deferred lighting, no nothing. just a piece of relic from the past.
UC4 looks like shit in screenshots with a HUD. Just like The Order.
Look at this POS, blurry rock textures, unshaded grass textures, flat lighting, no PBR, no deferred lighting, no nothing. just a piece of relic from the past.
Welcome to present day fool.
And again, comparing bullshots and cut-scenes to cherry-picked in-game screenshots. Trying too hard to make your game seem perfect.
Same generic, boring, linear, QTE and scripted event ridden gameplay and cliche generic rehashed storyline
Uncharted is a series made for stupid people who aren't interested in interesting game design and mechanics and care more about Nathan Drake having 100 different ways to scratch his ass
Doesn't helpt that Naughty Fail can't program decent AI or free flowing combat either
lol @gpuking thinking that posting actual game-play screenshots of The Order and UC4 is the equivalent of posting low-setting PC screenshots.
Shows how much he thinks about the shitty games he champions.
Maybe when he finally gets gfx king (current score: 0) he'll be more reasonable and not so salty.
@excelsior1 said:
All new graphics and physics
Same generic, boring, linear, QTE and scripted event ridden gameplay and cliche generic rehashed storyline
Uncharted is a series made for stupid people who aren't interested in interesting game design and mechanics and care more about Nathan Drake having 100 different ways to scratch his ass
Doesn't helpt that Naughty Fail can't program decent AI or free flowing combat either
All new gfx that won't look half as good in gameplay, and even the cutscene versions already surpassed by PC games.
Some really dishonest screens in this thread. The UC4 gameplay images were clearly compressed and some of those Crysis images looked awful, definitely not representative of how the game looks at max settings. Not that I would pit Crysis 1 against UC4. Crysis was head and shoulders over every game when it released in 2007 but it certainly can't compete with modern games anymore.
Some really dishonest screens in this thread. The UC4 gameplay images were clearly compressed and some of those Crysis images looked awful, definitely not representative of how the game looks at max settings. Not that I would pit Crysis 1 against UC4. Crysis was head and shoulders over every game when it released in 2007 but it certainly can't compete with modern games anymore.
I can't wait until UC4 comes out and people take gameplay hud direct feeds. It won't look anything like the promo shots.
I still see how mad the cows get when you post 100% direct-feed post release PS4 user images of The Order,
Some really dishonest screens in this thread. The UC4 gameplay images were clearly compressed and some of those Crysis images looked awful, definitely not representative of how the game looks at max settings. Not that I would pit Crysis 1 against UC4. Crysis was head and shoulders over every game when it released in 2007 but it certainly can't compete with modern games anymore.
I can't wait until UC4 comes out and people take gameplay hud direct feeds. It won't look anything like the promo shots.
I still see how mad the cows get when you post 100% direct-feed post release PS4 user images of The Order,
I agree, the unscripted UC4 gameplay doesn't look that overly impressive. It looks good but I honestly expected a little more, especially now when ND has dropped the 60 fps target.
Do we really need to take GPUking seriously? for years he has shot complete BS in an insane fanboy way. Why care what he thinks he's most likely a fake boy (which scares me cause either he isnt or for years he has put the role on for fun, issues a plenty It seems)
@RoboCopISJesus: You are an absolute troll. ND has already said the assets are identical at all times. You guys keep posting these pics of PC games and none of them hold a candle to UC4.
You go out of your way posting terribly compressed screenshots and somehow thinks that's how the game actually looks.
@RoboCopISJesus: You are an absolute troll. ND has already said the assets are identical at all times. You guys keep posting these pics of PC games and none of them hold a candle to UC4.
You go out of your way posting terribly compressed screenshots and somehow thinks that's how the game actually looks.
@RoboCopISJesus: Post me a link where I said that? The only game I really praised recently was Infamous SS and I am 100% correct in saying it's one of the best looking games around. GoW 3 and UC2 also have best graphic awards while all you have is salty tears.
@Heirren: Aside from character models, which I acknowledged look great, what "assets" are better than anything on PC?
I'd say overall object detail. A lot of stuff that typically gets the typical feature upgrade of a graphics card seem to be hand done on the Order. Uncharted 4 is similarly impressive in this manner. Nothing looks very calculated. Also, the facial animation and the eyes. The eyes in particular almost look like they were handled as a separate identity.
Some of the most impressive stuff in the Order gets overlooked because people will attempt to scrutinize an iffy texture here or there.
@Heirren: Aside from character models, which I acknowledged look great, what "assets" are better than anything on PC?
I'd say overall object detail. A lot of stuff that typically gets the typical feature upgrade of a graphics card seem to be hand done on the Order. Uncharted 4 is similarly impressive in this manner. Nothing looks very calculated. Also, the facial animation and the eyes. The eyes in particular almost look like they were handled as a separate identity.
Some of the most impressive stuff in the Order gets overlooked because people will attempt to scrutinize an iffy texture here or there.
LOL. Everything looks extremely calculated and baked especially in the case of Out of Order 800p. So again where's the 900pStation's Crysis 2 killer?
@Heirren: Aside from character models, which I acknowledged look great, what "assets" are better than anything on PC?
I'd say overall object detail. A lot of stuff that typically gets the typical feature upgrade of a graphics card seem to be hand done on the Order. Uncharted 4 is similarly impressive in this manner. Nothing looks very calculated. Also, the facial animation and the eyes. The eyes in particular almost look like they were handled as a separate identity.
Some of the most impressive stuff in the Order gets overlooked because people will attempt to scrutinize an iffy texture here or there.
LOL. Everything looks extremely calculated and baked especially in the case of Out of Order 800p. So again where's the 900pStation's Crysis 2 killer?
You are misinterpreting. Calculated as in, say, an entire rock structure/surface being calculated by a computer vs being modeled by hand.
It will go until a pc game comes out that gives Uncharted a run for its money.
In the graphics department? Because other than graphics and a hopefully good story UC4 doesn't seem to have much going.
It is one of the few next gen titles that appears to be pushing things forward. The animation system is an attempt at better combat. Momentum is said to play a roll in how it is being executed. Punches will land and react accordingly depending on force and angle.
@Heirren: Aside from character models, which I acknowledged look great, what "assets" are better than anything on PC?
I'd say overall object detail. A lot of stuff that typically gets the typical feature upgrade of a graphics card seem to be hand done on the Order. Uncharted 4 is similarly impressive in this manner. Nothing looks very calculated. Also, the facial animation and the eyes. The eyes in particular almost look like they were handled as a separate identity.
Some of the most impressive stuff in the Order gets overlooked because people will attempt to scrutinize an iffy texture here or there.
I'd say there are quite a few games that have great object detail/quality, I don't really see the order doing anything better. Same with UC4, great looking game but nothing stunning apart from the obvious animations and models.
And it's not that hard to overlook things in the Order with that film grain effect that almost hides the true appearance of a lot within the game.
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