The problem with 99% of mobile games...

Mobile games try to lure you back with daily rewards:

"Log in every day to claim your rewards"

Or they start sending you push notifications so you would come back and play your "favourite game".

Instead of, oh I don't know, ... Having enticing gameplay ? Having actual game related reasons for you to come back ?

There are a lot of decent to good mobile games, but a lot of them I see just apply dirty tricks to beg for people's attention. While lacking at such a fundamental level.

There seems to be this situation created on mobile where:

If you ask for money for your game, people will complain because they expect games on mobile to be free.

Yet if games turn out to be F2P they always apply dirty tricks to get people to play or to pay money.

Still, not having good gameplay that entices people to continue playing your game is inexcusable.

@R4gn4r0k:

My problems with mobile games is the whole prepaid concept. The game is "free" but riddled with ads and micro transactions that make it impossible to enjoy the game without putting money into it constantly.

Most of them are just boring. Space Marshals is the only decent mobile game I played and I guess nova 3 was fun enough.

Yeah and when some options in F2P games cost 99 bucks or even more, at that point I tend to just ignore F2P games and rather buy a 60 dollar, full price, title

If a Free 2 Play game can not be fun without spending any money, there is no reason to play one.

There are quite a few good mobile games, of couse they are nowhere near console or PC level quality but they still offer entertainment:

• Monument Valley
• Hitman GO

I also need to try out Machinarium and Grim Fandango, I think point & click games will play wonderfully on a touch screen device.

With abit of tweaking a mobile or tablet can go from a shit free2play scam machine to gaming utopia. Ipega controller + sdcard and you're on your way.

You can disable notifications in every single game.

Which games do you like playing on mobile ?

Sure, but it's more about the fact there are many F2P games that are applying tricks instead of providing meaningful gameplay to entice players to their games. Not so much about individual solutions for games.

122gb of f2ps

Those clicker games, hoo wee.

Old friend of mine: "Hey you're a big gamer right? You ever try clash of clans??"

Me: "Sorry, we're no longer friends."

I played Age of Empires: Castle Siege for quite a long time.

Until I realised just how bad it is compared to PC games or Console games.

And these games just make you wait and wait and wait... just so you'd be more willing to pay up.

Because in the end: getting people to pay up > providing a meaningful gameplay experience.

And that's a shame.

I don't think I've had a mobile game grab my attention for longer than a few days

Playing Super Mario Run has me thinking: why am I not playing better mario games ? Where I'm in complete control :/

Yeah I was having a lot of fun with Pac Man 356 and Hitman GO, but I kinda stopped playing those games after a few days...

I agree though, Mario is one of the better Mobile games (only played the free trial though)

and yeah for a game on the go, it should not require an always online connection...

But maybe the game does that connection to see if you actually own the full version or no ?

Tales of Link has that "Login for your bonus" stuff, it never really bothered me.

A surprisingly good game on mobile is Max Payne if you have a controller. The game maps shoot to the start button on my iPega controller but it was still fun as hell. It basically is just a port of the first game. I hope they eventually do the second but it doesn't seem likely since it has been years since they did the first.

Tetris is the only mobile game that matters.

Though I did have fun playing X Construction a few years back.

The term that you mentioned is actually called The Skinner Box:

Yeah South Park had a pretty cool episode about that.

It was when the candian devil made a mobile game that overrun south park.

Yeah I did notice quite a few PC/Console ports like for example KOTOR. And of course very famous: GTA

But I do wonder how they would play on touch screen controls. GTA plays like ass.

I see it as hypocrisy on gamers' part. If you choose a F2P game over a game that requires a purchase, then you should expect to see some micro-transactions floating around. Gamers always call F2P game developers "greedy" for asking for money, they seem to forget that game developers are a business, not a charity. Those gamers would do the exact same thing if they were in charge of the company. I guess its the old "its only evil if the other person does it" situation.

Here's the harsh truth: If you do not give a game developer any money, then they have no legal or moral obligation to serve you. No money = no obligations.

Yeahcmy two big issues with mobile gaming is the pay to win crap and the lack of controller of course. This is why i love the nintendo switch but i wish i could play mobile games on my switch as well. If only they could come together in a deal somehow with google play.

Only have Rayark's games + Shadowverse on my phone.

I rarely play SV now, not that I played much in first place, but at least it's less RNG bullsh*t than HS.

Rayark's music games are legit though, just needs to be on bigger devices.

I was going going to say people walk into you while playing.

Yep you have the free games riddled with pay to win stuff which takes the fun out of it.

I hate it when those mobile games are trying to be personal with me. "Hey come back we miss you!" Insta delete.

Some of them are good, however they have a price tag on them.

1. Free to play is an amazing financial success on mobile. And a lot of these problems are inherent to free to play models that companies (have to?) use to earn money. Except for Nintendo with their 'free to start'.

2. No standards. It's a shitty platform for gaming to begin with, so standards were always going to be relatively low. But with the free to play boom any concept of standards went straight out the door (of course there is a very select group of do-gooder companies that try hard to make actual good games). The audience of mobile games don't care. They don't care about the state of gaming. So they're not going to raise hell because of bad business practices. They got 'important' things to do. Thus they can get away with it.

. Basically what we see on phones is a slightly exaggerated form of what all gaming would be like if nerds like us didn't bitch and complain about everything. And that will be an ongoing fight.

I am quite happy to pay for a game, just don't make me pay for a game or play a game where all my actions are basically meaningless. Because you want me to pay even more...

Good point, Nintendo and Switch gamers would benefit a lot from mobile ports, where all the shit is taken out of the game and instead of touchscreen we can game with the joycons/ controllers.

It's a financial succes because:

99% don't spend a dime on a F2P game

0,9% spend some money on a F2P game

0,1% are the ones getting milked, spending over 100 (sometimes up to a 1.000) in a F2P game

@R4gn4r0k: I wanna recommend you to play Until Dawn - PS4 also Game of Thrones - PS4 both sounds me so good, because it would be the free PlayStation & Until Dawn is a PlayStation exclusive survival horror adventure where eight friends are trapped together on a remote mountain retreat, and they aren’t alone you can play as each of the eight characters and experience fear like never before & exclusive survival horror adventure.

Hope you will enjoy with it alot!!

That is hardly the definitive "problem". This implies that if they simply did away with these rewards that the games would be better. Not true. Why most mobile games suck in terms of gameplay is that they're nothing but a tedious grind where time is a literal resource. They're like MMOs without the gameplay.

I literally explained just that in my (year old) post:

Instead of having solid gameplay they use all kinds of psychological tricks to get you back, like sending you notifications, or giving you rewards to log in.

Nuh-uh.. the reward should be a fun game, not some useless junk.

I watched an ad to get some coins in Lara Croft Run. Ended up playing that a lot, but didn't buy anything.

Mobile gaming still sucks tho

I hate Mobile games!

Except this thread hasn't been a year old, it's 7 months old lol.

LMAO! Y'all really hate mobile games. I love how y'all complain about mobile games with transactions, when some of y'all are buying loot boxes, skins, and DLC in your games tacked onto the $60 purchase.

For me, mobile games and free games on the laptop aren't bad. The ones that suck are the ones that try to bring a console/PC game on the phone. Those controls suck and you would have to buy an attachment for it to be playable. Just make games DESIGNED for phones and call it a day.

Except I don't mess with loot boxes at all. DLC is another story but it really depends on the game's DLC the developers is offering. I have purchase well made DLC in the past such as Mass Effect 2, Horizon: Zero Dawn and the best of all, Witcher 3 Expansion packs.

As for as Mobile game goes, I just hate Mobile games and I'm leaving it like that.

Old thread.

I enjoy the Sega classics on mobile.... Phantasy Star 2 on my phone is all I really need.

@luxuryheart:

Huh, long enough to make me forget I even made this thread xD

LMAO !

I thought he just replied to one of my posts, but then it turns out I'm TC.

Lara Croft Go is nice though, right ?

I've yet to find a decent to good mobile game, outside of remakes of old school games.

@R4gn4r0k: For a runner game

@R4gn4r0k:

Yup. THAT is what replaced portable gaming. Feels like a huge step down.

Yeah 99% of mobile games are just shit.

Which I guess sucks because there are some good ones out there, but it's almost too much work to sift through the shit to find them.

I need Slay the Spire on mobile so I can play it while laying in bed on a tablet. Card games and deck builders work well on mobile.

I don't like runner games :P

Well I might try meatboy.

But I was asking if you liked Lara Croft Go, haha :D

Yeah, I have to shrug when I hear that :(

People growing up on a gameboy with Mario, Tetris and pokemon seems like long gone times.

Now people are growing up on smartphones playing ...

Words of truth.

But the reason many mobile games are shit is because their gameplay is shit.

That is definitely a big part of why I don't touch mobile games. But even the good ones, I'm not interested in playing games on my small phone. I try to keep phone usage to a minimum, unless its an important call or on my break I surf the net a little.

I play so many games at home that when I am outside of my crib, I dont want to play games and especially not on a device used primarily as a phone, its not a dedicated gaming device. If I decide I want to game on the go more, ill get a Switch or bring my DSXL