The Official PSP2 Discussion Thread (CALLED NGP! TWO ANALOG STICKS!)

The PSP2 was unveiled in styIe by Sony at their Playstation Event just now, and holy crap, the device is every bit as good as we could have hoped for.

Just a quick round-up of sme of the facts from the conference, for those who missed out:

• Playstation Suite, which will allow for specific Playstation software to be played on Playstation Certified products.
• Playstation Store coming to Android.
• PSP2 announced with codename Next Generation Portable (NGP). It's features include cameras, a gyroscope, dual analog sticks, a touch screen, a track pad at the back, 3G and Wifi and 'power equivalent to the PS3.' Due out this Holiday season.
• Sony confirms a slew of games for the NGP, includingHot Shots Golf, Uncharted, Killzone, Resistance, LittleBigPlanet, Gravity Haze, Hustle Fighters, WipeOut, and more!
• Uncharted Portable uses the touch screen and gyroscope for control.
• The back touch pad can be used either to control on screen action without your fingers getting in the way, or as L and R buttons.
• Both screens arefive inches!
• Live Areais the NGP's equivalent of the PSN What's New Section on the PS3.
• NGP uses solid state format i.e cartridges.
• Live Area also has aCommunication Feed,which is similar to SpotPass and StreetPass on the 3DS. In addition, it also allows you to see what the most popular game is being played in your immediate vicintiy.
• Trophies confirmed.
• Augmented Reality for the NGP.
• The NGP will have full access to the Playstation Suite.
• Third party support for the NGP includes Activison, Sega, Koei, Konami, Tecmo and Capcom.
• Monster Hunter Portable 3rddemoed on the NGP. Will be accessible via the backwards compatible PSN Store.
• Capcom confirms thatMT Frameworks works on the NGP.
• Lost Planet 2 demoed on NGP.
• No confirmed titles announced by Capcom for the NGP yet.
• Yakuza and Super Monkey Ball demoed on the NGP. Not confirmed to launch on the NGP yet.
• METAL GEAR SOLID 4 DEMOED ON THE NGP
• MGS4 not coming to NGP. Kojima will announce a new title at E3.
• Will NGP have Cloud Computing?
• Tim Sweeny comes onto the stage, shows off a tech demo running off Unreal Engine.
• Activison comes onto the stages and announces Call of Duty for the NGP.
• Rockstar is listed as a developer for the NGP.
• That's it for now: details not announced: games, battery life and price.

SPECS

CPU
ARM® CortexTM-A9 core (4 core)

GPU
SGX543MP4+

External Dimensions
Approx. 182.0 x 18.6 x 83.5mm (width x height x depth) (tentative, excludes largest projection)

Screen
(Touch screen)
5 inches (16:9), 960 x 544, Approx. 16 million colors, OLED
Multi touch screen (capacitive type)

Rear touch pad
Multi touch pad (capacitive type)

Cameras
Front camera, Rear camera

Sound
Built-in stereo speakers
Built-in microphone

Sensors
Six-axis motion sensing system (three-axis gyroscope, three-axis accelerometer), Three-axis electronic compass

Location
Built-in GPS
Wi-Fi location service support

Keys / Switches
PS button
Power button
Directional buttons (Up/Down/Right/Left)
Action buttons (Triangle, Circle, Cross, Square)
Shoulder buttons (Right/Left)
Right stick, Left stick
START button, SELECT button
Volume buttons (+/-)
Wireless communications

Mobile network connectivity (3G)
IEEE 802.11b/g/n (n = 1x1)(Wi-Fi) (Infrastructure mode/Ad-hoc mode)
Bluetooth® 2.1+EDR ?A2DP/AVRCP/HSP?

IMAGES:

Looks sexy, and it has two analog sticks. What do you guys think?

LIST OF DEVELOPERS FOR THE NGP (MUST KNOW JAPANESE)

HOW DOES THE NGP STACK UP AGAINST THE COMPETITON?

IS THIS THE 3DS KILLER?

(All text in this post was compiled and written by charizard1605. The images in this post are hosted by Kotaku and IGN. The Spec Sheet for the NGP was provided by NeoGAF.)

PSP2 =PSP Phone. thats my speculation. Thats not rly a criticism, just an eye opener

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also i highly doubt this device will have graphics anything near a PS3. Remember when ppl were saying the 3DS was supposed to have XBOX 360/PS3 level graphics? yeah....didnt happen.

I would say it will be amazing, very powerful, and no doubt expensive. My two concerns are that it will be unreliable and that it wont get too many good games. Oh and I would like PSP games to be able to be played on it, as I want to play Peace Walker and more.

PSP2 =PSP Phone. thats my speculation. Thats not rly a criticism, just an eye opener

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also i highly doubt this device will have graphics anything near a PS3. Remember when ppl were saying the 3DS was supposed to have XBOX 360/PS3 level graphics? yeah....didnt happen.

painguy1

[QUOTE="painguy1"]

PSP2 =PSP Phone. thats my speculation. Thats not rly a criticism, just an eye opener

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also i highly doubt this device will have graphics anything near a PS3. Remember when ppl were saying the 3DS was supposed to have XBOX 360/PS3 level graphics? yeah....didnt happen.

charizard1605

rly? well seeing as how this is system wars....I REQUIRE A LINK!!!!! :P

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="painguy1"]

PSP2 =PSP Phone. thats my speculation. Thats not rly a criticism, just an eye opener

---edit----

also i highly doubt this device will have graphics anything near a PS3. Remember when ppl were saying the 3DS was supposed to have XBOX 360/PS3 level graphics? yeah....didnt happen.

painguy1

rly? well seeing as how this is system wars....I REQUIRE A LINK!!!!! :P

It will be powerful no doubt but it may make the cost of the product more than desired.

The games are what's most important but I'm wondering if it'll be able to compete with the 3DS in this aspect.

Won't have 3G, Wont have OLED screen, Wont be as powerful as the PS3. It'll be more powerful than the 3DS, have a high res LCD screen with LED backlighting, 2 analogs, 5MP camera, bluetooth, wi-fi, 16GB/32 versions and will use some sort of ARM/POWERVR combination. Price = $300. Will be DD and Memory Stick compatible. Nonstop-Madness

It will probably be hyped as a mini super computer that will put even high end PC's to shame.....but when it actually comes out everyone will find out it's not even as powerful as the original iPhone.

[QUOTE="painguy1"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] I would ordinarily agree with you, but the thing is, Kaz Hirai himself confirmed that the PSP2 is NOT the PSP Phone. He went on to talk about how it would be hard to differentiate the two products for the uninformed masses etc.charizard1605

rly? well seeing as how this is system wars....I REQUIRE A LINK!!!!! :P

hmmm he didnt rly say that it was going to be two separate entities. I honestly think he was refering to the playstation market for the android device. thats how i interpreted it. Regardless IF the PSP2 is a phone ill probably get it once my contract expires :P

[QUOTE="painguy1"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] I would ordinarily agree with you, but the thing is, Kaz Hirai himself confirmed that the PSP2 is NOT the PSP Phone. He went on to talk about how it would be hard to differentiate the two products for the uninformed masses etc.charizard1605

rly? well seeing as how this is system wars....I REQUIRE A LINK!!!!! :P

[QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"]Won't have 3G, Wont have OLED screen, Wont be as powerful as the PS3. It'll be more powerful than the 3DS, have a high res LCD screen with LED backlighting, 2 analogs, 5MP camera, bluetooth, wi-fi, 16GB/32 versions and will use some sort of ARM/POWERVR combination. Price = $300. Will be DD and Memory Stick compatible. SakusEnvoy

They have released one handheld lol. I don't think that will allow anyone to get an idea of the pricing they do for handhelds. I imagine the system being 300 bucks, but if they could somehow make it powerful and pull off 250 then that would be great.

Apparently, Sony is going to go ahead and continue with the same approach that brought them so much success with the PSP

charizard1605

Anyway, I'm going to go out on a limb and predict it will be priced at the same pricepoint as the 3DS - but we won't find that out until E3 anyway.

Well one thing is for certain. It wont be any more expensive than the 3DS in Europe. I doubt Sony are going to pull a Nintendo and screw us over with the pricing. I expect it to be in the £180-£200 range. I expect it to be either the same price or a bit more expensive in the US though. Still, Sony definitely have a good chance of doing very well in Europe if they do make it cheaper than the 3DS in that region.

PSP2 =PSP Phone. thats my speculation. Thats not rly a criticism, just an eye opener

---edit----

also i highly doubt this device will have graphics anything near a PS3. Remember when ppl were saying the 3DS was supposed to have XBOX 360/PS3 level graphics? yeah....didnt happen.

painguy1

PSP2 =PSP Phone. thats my speculation. Thats not rly a criticism, just an eye opener

---edit----

also i highly doubt this device will have graphics anything near a PS3. Remember when ppl were saying the 3DS was supposed to have XBOX 360/PS3 level graphics? yeah....didnt happen.

painguy1

[QUOTE="charizard1605"]Apparently, Sony is going to go ahead and continue with the same approach that brought them so much success with the PSP

shinrabanshou

Anyway, I'm going to go out on a limb and predict it will be priced at the same pricepoint as the 3DS - but we won't find that out until E3 anyway.

[spoiler] Well okay, maybe just a little. :twisted: [/spoiler]

Sony in a struggle to remain relevant is trying to go up against a strong Nintendo and Apple. I don't think the PSPhone/PSP2 will succeed in that respect. We may be witnessing Sony's last days as a game hardware manufacturer. At best, I can see them being an obscure niche riding the coattails of both competitors.

Sony in a struggle to remain relevant is trying to go up against a strong Nintendo and Apple. I don't think the PSPhone/PSP2 will succeed in that respect. We may be witnessing Sony's last days as a game hardware manufacturer. At best, I can see them being an obscure niche riding the coattails of both competitors.

InfinityMugen

[QUOTE="painguy1"]

PSP2 =PSP Phone. thats my speculation. Thats not rly a criticism, just an eye opener

---edit----

also i highly doubt this device will have graphics anything near a PS3. Remember when ppl were saying the 3DS was supposed to have XBOX 360/PS3 level graphics? yeah....didnt happen.

kholdstare61

[QUOTE="kholdstare61"][QUOTE="painguy1"]

PSP2 =PSP Phone. thats my speculation. Thats not rly a criticism, just an eye opener

---edit----

also i highly doubt this device will have graphics anything near a PS3. Remember when ppl were saying the 3DS was supposed to have XBOX 360/PS3 level graphics? yeah....didnt happen.

hexashadow13

Sony in a struggle to remain relevant is trying to go up against a strong Nintendo and Apple. I don't think the PSPhone/PSP2 will succeed in that respect. We may be witnessing Sony's last days as a game hardware manufacturer. At best, I can see them being an obscure niche riding the coattails of both competitors.

InfinityMugen

Nor is the PS3 as the healthiest "loser console" that I can remember, a sign of doom.

There will be a PS4. And there's definitely a market for a PSP2.

[QUOTE="painguy1"]

PSP2 =PSP Phone. thats my speculation. Thats not rly a criticism, just an eye opener

---edit----

also i highly doubt this device will have graphics anything near a PS3. Remember when ppl were saying the 3DS was supposed to have XBOX 360/PS3 level graphics? yeah....didnt happen.

kholdstare61

hardware gap is very large this time around

[QUOTE="InfinityMugen"]

Sony in a struggle to remain relevant is trying to go up against a strong Nintendo and Apple. I don't think the PSPhone/PSP2 will succeed in that respect. We may be witnessing Sony's last days as a game hardware manufacturer. At best, I can see them being an obscure niche riding the coattails of both competitors.

shinrabanshou

Nor is the PS3 as the healthiest "loser console" that I can remember, a sign of doom.

There will be a PS4. And there's definitely a market for a PSP2.

the psp2, will produce visuals akin to the HD twins when factoring in the lower res screens.

It will have 3 hours of battery life.

It will have some great launch titles probably.

I will be getting the 3ds :P

cost? I don't know.

Sony is not going out without a fight, but I dont see them winning out against 3DS, iphone or the next generation of consoles. A niche group is still marketshare I suppose.

InfinityMugen

Nor is a 30% marketshare for the PSP or a 25% marketshare for the PS3 "niche." :/

You'll be hard pressed to find anyone on here who actually considers the iPhone a gaming device. And if this generation has shown anything it's that every home console generation is a blank slate.

[QUOTE="InfinityMugen"]Sony is not going out without a fight, but I dont see them winning out against 3DS, iphone or the next generation of consoles. A niche group is still marketshare I suppose.

shinrabanshou

Nor is a 30% marketshare for the PSP or a 25% marketshare for the PS3 "niche." :/

You'll be hard pressed to find anyone on here who actually considers the iPhone a gaming device. And if this generation has shown anything it's that every home console generation is a blank slate.

You certainly can't call it dominance either.InfinityMugen

The Wonder Swan is niche.

The PSP? Not so much.

[QUOTE="InfinityMugen"]You certainly can't call it dominance either.shinrabanshou

The Wonder Swan is niche.

The PSP? Not so much.

Yeah you're right. Everything is just fine. With the way Sony's game division is being handled, they will surely last a long time.

InfinityMugen

There's no denying PS3 was an unmitigated disaster for it's first 2-3 years on the market, but was turned around.

There's no denying that the PSP sales are dwarfed by the 3DS.

But the likelihood of the death of the PlayStation brand and Sony exiting the lucrative game market based on current circumstances, isn't any moreso than the death of Nintendo was certain after two generations of failure with the N64 and Gamecube or Microsoft exiting the console market after billions lost and a 17% marketshare of the 6th generation of home consoles.

Will happen the same like the PSP.

why would sony reveal the psp2 in january? wouldnt that be better saved for something like E3?

why would sony reveal the psp2 in january? wouldnt that be better saved for something like E3?

ultraking

I'm assuming they'll reveal the hardware and some showpiece software, an Uncharted Portable, a Call of Duty for the West or Monster Hunter for Japan if they're clever. As well as a vague release date like "Holiday 2011."

But a launch line-up, release date and pricing won't be shown until E3.

why would sony reveal the psp2 in january? wouldnt that be better saved for something like E3?

ultraking

I am very excited for how the PSP2 will turn out and i will definately buy one. Price is not a detractor for me, if it is cheap i will buy, if it is expensive i will buy. If the system is supported with the kinds of games I love and has a value that justifies the price, I will not regret for a second paying for it. From what I have heard, OLED touchscreen, 3G, HD visuals, I would pay anything for it if I could afford it...if I cant, i will wait until I can, plain and simple

Oh it'll be powerful. Not a 360 or PS3, but way more than the 3DS. I think it'll sit in the middle of a PS2 and a PS3. Oh it'll be expensive. $350-$400. I don't know why people even think that it'll be $300. Hell no. The battery will be the same as the PSP, and the games. If sony learned one thing from its 2006 PS3 launch, it was not to launch with one good game. I say expect some big Sony franchises to launch with it. Including a GTPSP2, either a new Jak and Daxter or Uncharted, a MGS (I'd honestly guess an MGS1 or 2 remake, since the 3DS gets Snake Eater), an FPS, be it Killzone or Resistance, and..... some others.

Oh it'll be expensive. $350-$400. I don't know why people even think that it'll be $300. Hell no.

RandomWinner

I mentioned it in the other thread but the components being speculated upon seem in the ballpark of the iPhone 4 or the Nexus One which has a Bill of Materials of about $180. I'm assuming 3G will be optional.

That would in theory make a $300 or even $250 loss leading pricepoint reasonable.

Smartphones have huge margins but they're competing with each other not the 3DS. And I'm guessing the 3DS is making a lot of profit per unit sold but they're banking on both the 3D and the DS brand building perceived value.

Sony doesn't really have that luxury.

[QUOTE="RandomWinner"]

Oh it'll be expensive. $350-$400. I don't know why people even think that it'll be $300. Hell no.

shinrabanshou

I mentioned it in the other thread but the components being speculated upon seem in the ballpark of the iPhone 4 or the Nexus One which has a Bill of Materials of about $180. I'm assuming 3G will be optional.

That would in theory make a $300 or even $250 loss leading pricepoint reasonable.

Smartphones have huge margins but they're competing with each other not the 3DS. And I'm guessing the 3DS is making a lot of profit per unit sold but they're banking on both the 3D and the DS brand building perceived value.

Sony doesn't really have that luxury.

So far I'm hearing great rumors, hopefully it'll have a nice launch line-up unlike it's competition :(

It takes more than technical specifications and price to beat the 3DS. One is the Nintendo brand name, the second is demographics, the third is features, and lastly is the games themselves.

Wouldnt we know about a conference coming so soon? I really hope its true! I am interested to see if Sony can do the unthinkable and make me buy a PSP 2 before a 3DS :P.

I wonder when the PSP phone will be announced. Its leaked to high hell, yet no official announcement yet.

So now the PSP2 is rumored to have a touch screen also. If it turns out to be true, yet again Sony jumps in on what Nintendo already has done. The 3G sounds really cool. Being able to surf web and download demos and what not but having to pay every month for the 3G im not sure if it's worth it. It will just be more expensive.