The Last Guardan is a masterpiece.

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#1 N64DD
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The world is amazing. Graphics are amazing. Trico is so lovable. The weight of your characters movement is great.

I'd say it's closer to ICO than it is SOC, but definitely has both influences.

If you don't have a PS4 this game is worth the price of admission.

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#3 N64DD
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@casharmy said:

Let them. This game was worth the wait.

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#4  Edited By dynamitecop
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@n64dd said:

The world is amazing. Graphics are amazing. Trico is so lovable. The weight of your characters movement is great.

I'd say it's closer to ICO than it is SOC, but definitely has both influences.

If you don't have a PS4 this game is worth the price of admission.

  • Point 1: Agreed
  • Point 2: No, it's very stylized, graphically it's quite PlayStation 3'ish.
  • Point 3: Agreed
  • Point 4: Rationalization for sloppy controls

It also runs very poorly.

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#5 N64DD
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@dynamitecop said:
@n64dd said:

The world is amazing. Graphics are amazing. Trico is so lovable. The weight of your characters movement is great.

I'd say it's closer to ICO than it is SOC, but definitely has both influences.

If you don't have a PS4 this game is worth the price of admission.

  • Point 1: Agreed
  • Point 2: No, it's very stylized, graphically it's quite PlayStation 3'ish.
  • Point 3: Agreed
  • Point 4: Rationalization for sloppy controls

It also runs very poorly.

Runs absolutely fine for me, did you buy it?

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#6  Edited By casharmy
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@n64dd said:
@casharmy said:

Let them. This game was worth the wait.

lol, they're only coming with butthurt and tears and to tell you how the game (which they haven't played) isn't good or somehow weaboo trash.

They have to remain consistent in the old that claims their exclusive games (which don't exist) are better than anything on PS4s and that nothing on the system looks good to them exept the D-level games like Crackdown which MS has been stringing xbox fans along with for the last couple of years.

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@n64dd said:
@dynamitecop said:
@n64dd said:

The world is amazing. Graphics are amazing. Trico is so lovable. The weight of your characters movement is great.

I'd say it's closer to ICO than it is SOC, but definitely has both influences.

If you don't have a PS4 this game is worth the price of admission.

  • Point 1: Agreed
  • Point 2: No, it's very stylized, graphically it's quite PlayStation 3'ish.
  • Point 3: Agreed
  • Point 4: Rationalization for sloppy controls

It also runs very poorly.

Runs absolutely fine for me, did you buy it?

Yes, also we all know that's not true, it's pretty common knowledge that this game chugs and runs poorly.

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#8  Edited By silversix_
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Amazing game and certainly worth the SUPERB 9/10 rating. Trico is my favorite companion in a game, such a glorious beat and so damn well animated. I don't know how they've done it but Trico's animations are as fluid as you'd see in a cutscene while this is all in game. Funny how i wasn't even excited for the game in the past 9 years

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#9 N64DD
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@dynamitecop said:
@n64dd said:
@dynamitecop said:
@n64dd said:

The world is amazing. Graphics are amazing. Trico is so lovable. The weight of your characters movement is great.

I'd say it's closer to ICO than it is SOC, but definitely has both influences.

If you don't have a PS4 this game is worth the price of admission.

  • Point 1: Agreed
  • Point 2: No, it's very stylized, graphically it's quite PlayStation 3'ish.
  • Point 3: Agreed
  • Point 4: Rationalization for sloppy controls

It also runs very poorly.

Runs absolutely fine for me, did you buy it?

Yes, also we all know that's not true, it's pretty common knowledge that this game chugs and runs poorly.

Runs great on ps4 pro. How far are you?

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#10 dynamitecop
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@n64dd said:
@dynamitecop said:
@n64dd said:
@dynamitecop said:
@n64dd said:

The world is amazing. Graphics are amazing. Trico is so lovable. The weight of your characters movement is great.

I'd say it's closer to ICO than it is SOC, but definitely has both influences.

If you don't have a PS4 this game is worth the price of admission.

  • Point 1: Agreed
  • Point 2: No, it's very stylized, graphically it's quite PlayStation 3'ish.
  • Point 3: Agreed
  • Point 4: Rationalization for sloppy controls

It also runs very poorly.

Runs absolutely fine for me, did you buy it?

Yes, also we all know that's not true, it's pretty common knowledge that this game chugs and runs poorly.

Runs great on ps4 pro. How far are you?

You need to note that in your posts, most people are running this on the PlayStation 4 which hardly ever hits 30 FPS and stays closer to 25 most of the time. The only consistent experience with this game is the PlayStation 4 Pro at 1080p, the performance state of this release is unacceptable.

About 40 minutes in where you use that mirror thing on the wooden gate, I'm not going to have real time to play until this weekend.

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Looking forward to picking it up when I finally get a PS4 someday

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#12 N64DD
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@dynamitecop said:
@n64dd said:
@dynamitecop said:
@n64dd said:
@dynamitecop said:
  • Point 1: Agreed
  • Point 2: No, it's very stylized, graphically it's quite PlayStation 3'ish.
  • Point 3: Agreed
  • Point 4: Rationalization for sloppy controls

It also runs very poorly.

Runs absolutely fine for me, did you buy it?

Yes, also we all know that's not true, it's pretty common knowledge that this game chugs and runs poorly.

Runs great on ps4 pro. How far are you?

You need to note that in your posts, most people are running this on the PlayStation 4 which hardly ever hits 30 FPS and stays closer to 25 most of the time. The only consistent experience with this game is the PlayStation 4 Pro at 1080p, the performance state of this release is unacceptable.

About 40 minutes in where you use that mirror thing on the wooden gate, I'm not going to have real time to play until this weekend.

I agree it sucks they didn't optimize it better for normal ps4's. Hopefully some patching can fix it.

Let me know what you think after this weekend.

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Got it for the Pro, It's not a looker but runs well. I just played it for a bit, first I must finish Gears 4. As most people I was skeptical but after trying it I'm somewhat excited to play it.

The only thing that pisses me off about this game is that it's gonna be another PS game with sup par gameplay.

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@phbz said:

Got it for the Pro, It's not a looker but runs well. I just played it for a bit, first I must finish Gears 4. As most people I was skeptical but after trying it I'm somewhat excited to play it.

The only thing that pisses me off about this game is that it's gonna be another PS game with sup par gameplay.

It looks amazing to me. When you get out into the bigger area it shines.

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i wouldn't say that

all it took was a couple of hours till got sick of the choppy frame rates,clunky controls/camera(and this on ps4 pro)

back to ffxv for me

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@ShepardCommandr said:

i wouldn't say that

all it took was a couple of hours till got sick of the choppy frame rates,clunky controls/camera(and this on ps4 pro)

back to ffxv for me

Regardless of the game content, it truly baffles me how someone could objectively rate a game like this a 9 or above with some serious and glaringly obvious issues.

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@n64dd: Sony and masterpieces, the only such combination this generation. I don't know how to place the WiiU.

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#18 DaVillain  Moderator
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@n64dd: Went to Target and got my copy since 3 of my friends told me it's worth the pick up.

I haven't even open it yet due to I'm still trying to unpack my stuff after moving to my new house and I'll let you know what I think about the game around Saturday or Sunday.

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Shall install it when I get off from work today, picked retail copy for a change

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#20 TheEroica  Moderator
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Im sure the game has an audience... And that those who are enjoying it are enjoying it for the right reasons...

For me, I read consistently that the gameplay is a bit of a shlog and that makes me want to wait till the game is cheaper.

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@dynamitecop said:
@ShepardCommandr said:

i wouldn't say that

all it took was a couple of hours till got sick of the choppy frame rates,clunky controls/camera(and this on ps4 pro)

back to ffxv for me

Regardless of the game content, it truly baffles me how someone could objectively rate a game like this a 9 or above with some serious and glaringly obvious issues.

Not baffling at all. It's not an X1 game where GS nitpicks every little thing to give the lowest score in stark contrast to a non X1 game where they overlook or downplay any flaws in order to give it a high numerical score.

lol :P

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I think we have different opinions on the definition of masterpiece.

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@SecretPolice said:

Not baffling at all. It's not an X1 game where GS nitpicks every little thing to give the lowest score in stark contrast to a non X1 game where they overlook or downplay any flaws in order to give it a high numerical score.

Don't cry lem, I'm sure GS is sorry and will work on your concerns shortly.

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@dakur said:
@SecretPolice said:

Not baffling at all. It's not an X1 game where GS nitpicks every little thing to give the lowest score in stark contrast to a non X1 game where they overlook or downplay any flaws in order to give it a high numerical score.

Don't cry lem, I'm sure GS is sorry and will work on your concerns shortly.

Out, out of here this minute. You leave stinky cow pie everywhere you go....

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Only problem I am running into is the camera in tight spaces. Makes some of the indoor puzzles a little harder than they should be. Other than that I am loving it. I am playing 1080p mode on the Pro though

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I've never played it, but there's reports that on the OG PS4 it drops to 10fps. And it has clunky controls and a shit camera. If all that's true, it's not a masterpiece.

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It's on my Christmas list.

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The atmosphere is great and it's a good puzzle/platformer but the controls suck major dick like SotC. Camera issues are a bit fixed but still is a pain to ass to deal with.

I played on the base PS4 and the framerate was poor. The drop to sub 20 fps is very noticeable, and the graphics doesn't even justify the framerate. UC4 looks miles better and still ran better than TLG.

All in all, the performance is the only thing that's keeping me from playing more. Other than that, it's a good game.

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How's the ending? Worth it?

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The lack of quality exclusives are driving LeMS insane just look above for proof.

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#31  Edited By BassMan
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This game is neither a masterpiece or a 9. It does some things exceptionally well while failing hard in other areas.

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@dynamitecop: It was reviewed by Peter Brown, the same person who gave Fallout 4 a 9.

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Cool. Not really my type of game, but I'm glad you like it.

@phbz said:

Got it for the Pro, It's not a looker but runs well. I just played it for a bit, first I must finish Gears 4. As most people I was skeptical but after trying it I'm somewhat excited to play it.

The only thing that pisses me off about this game is that it's gonna be another PS game with sup par gameplay.

Yeah.... The PS4 needs more action-adventure games with sharp controls like BB and R&C. We need more of those games across the board, really.

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@SecretPolice: You're in denial bud.

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So, I should go and buy a PS4 for a single game that I might not enjoy?

Don't get me wrong, I'm sure Last Guardian is a great game, it just does not look like the kinda game I would want to sit down and play.

And before someone calls me a lemming for saying that, I should note that I owned a PS2 back in the day, and I never got into Ico or Shadow of Colossus.

So, even if I had gotten a PS4, I likely would have still not bothered with the game.

Still, I hope people do enjoy it.

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The game sucked and was boring, selling the game tomorrow

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@speedfreak48t5p said:

I think we have different opinions on the definition of masterpiece.

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#38  Edited By Vaasman
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More like a master-piece of crap AMIRITE?!

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#39  Edited By PSP107
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@speedfreak48t5p: @King_Dodongo:

There hasn't been a masterpiece since the PS2 days.

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Shadow of the Colossus was too and it had some of the same issues reviewers brought up with Last Guardian. Im sure it will be good

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Not getting it.

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The poor performance on the PS4 has pushed me away from the game. I am not interested in playing a game that looks aged and runs poorly for $60.

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Somewhat misleading but hilarious:

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#44  Edited By gago-gago
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I agree but then again more reviewers, paid and user reviewers, more people think the other Team Ico games are better games, if the score on MetaCritic is any indication of this. TLG isn't anywhere near the quality of the other Team Ico games. I wish they remastered those two other games instead.

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I don't know about a masterpiece but it did turn out better than I thought for a game is such limbo.

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#46 N64DD
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@PSP107 said:

@speedfreak48t5p: @King_Dodongo:

There hasn't been a masterpiece since the PS2 days.

That's very inaccurate.

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#47 PSP107
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@n64dd:

Do explain N64 inferior to NES/SNES but superior to GC/Wii/WiiU and possibly Switch?

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@PSP107 said:

There hasn't been a masterpiece since the PS2 days.

Super Mario Galaxy 2.

There could also be arguments made for games like Demons Souls or Bayonetta 2, among others.

I get that the term is thrown around way too loosely, often times on games that actually have shit for gameplay, but there have been streaks of brilliance post-gen 6.

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#49 N64DD
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@PSP107 said:

@n64dd:

Do explain N64 inferior to NES/SNES but superior to GC/Wii/WiiU and possibly Switch?

You just went in left field and I don't think anybody is following what you're saying here.

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Zelda could really take some notes of those spectacular environmental puzzles. It felt like dark souls, but based on puzzles. No real sign of handholding, you had to figure out yourself completely