The cutscene of Gears of war 3 maintains 60fps

[QUOTE="Heil68"]I think the vast majority of people do care. IronBass

That's not what this and the other thread show.

[QUOTE="CorbraMax"]

[QUOTE="TH1Sx1SxSPARTA"]lol and pc games can do twice that, during GAMEPLAY!!! lol this is the funniest thread in a whileTH1Sx1SxSPARTA

You can actuallyplay Gears 3 in 60fps using hardware motion interpolation (Motion Flow, Auto Motion Plus...etc)

Controller latency be damned though.

Motion Interpolation can work for PC or console if you can't afford real 60fps... Since you know, it's working on the same monitor...

You know what... I'll give you an example. I'll encode the gameplay footage to 60fps.

You are wrong, they both show clearly that people do care. It just shows how much the hardware has aged and people are seeing the decay it is causing. Heil68

I encoded the gameplay section in 60fps.

So now everything is in 60fps (lol)

http://www.multiupload.com/J5D6L2JHTA

[QUOTE="Heil68"]You are wrong, they both show clearly that people do care. It just shows how much the hardware has aged and people are seeing the decay it is causing. IronBass

People care, I see it every day in SW's. Heil68

You see everyday threads and posts of people caring about frame rates of cutscenes? I post arguably as much as you, and I've never see them, so unless you can show me those threads and posts, I stay by what I say :]

That's depressing, the tech is 6 years and there's nothing fine about it. Well by fact, the 360 is already obsolete. But in terms of PC and PS3, the 360 is old hardware. The PC is extremely upgradable and you can pretty much do what ever you want with it. The Xbox does not have any thing new. A gaming PC now a days can wipe the floor with the 360. Games have gotten unbelievably more sophisticated and graphically impressive this generation, moreso than any previous generation. Year by year, graphics and amount of things on the screen keeps going up. I guess you just have to settle then when nothing else is available. *sigh*Heil68

That's up to the market to decide. The 360 and PS3 keep selling well (better than ever, actually), the software sales are great (better than ever, actually),and the developers and publisherskeep supporting themgreatly (more than ever, actually). All of which indicate a simple thing, the market considers them perfeclt fine.

[QUOTE="Heil68"]People care, I see it every day in SW's. IronBass

You see everyday threads and posts of people caring about frame rates of cutscenes? I post arguably as much as you, and I've never see them, so unless you can show me those threads and posts, I stay by what I say :]

That's depressing, the tech is 6 years and there's nothing fine about it. Well by fact, the 360 is already obsolete. But in terms of PC and PS3, the 360 is old hardware. The PC is extremely upgradable and you can pretty much do what ever you want with it. The Xbox does not have any thing new. A gaming PC now a days can wipe the floor with the 360. Games have gotten unbelievably more sophisticated and graphically impressive this generation, moreso than any previous generation. Year by year, graphics and amount of things on the screen keeps going up. I guess you just have to settle then when nothing else is available. *sigh*Heil68

That's up to the market to decide. The 360 and PS3 keep selling well (better than ever, actually), the software sales are great (better than ever, actually),and the developers and publisherskeep supporting themgreatly (more than ever, actually). All of which indicate a simple thing, the market considers them perfeclt fine.

[QUOTE="kraken2109"]

Framerate makes next to no difference in a cutscene since you're not controlling it.

Films are 24fps, do you complain about them being a low framerate?

McStrongfast

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/james-cameron-urges-industry-use-173577

Glitchspot won't allow me to post links any longer, so you'll have to copypaste that one.

You don't see threads complaining about 360/PS3 games? Heil68

The topic is about frame rates of cutscenes, that's what my "most people won't care" was about :!:

A simple search can do that for you. If you need help, you can go to the help thread that Musicalmac has sticked. Fact is consoles dont have much shelf life, the history of video games has shown that. Sales are slumping and Nintendo has already launched a new handheld and getting ready for a new console next year. I wonder why.Heil68

That's Nintendo, and that has happened for a lot reasons. And that's why we havethe WiiU coming out soon.The PS3 and 360 are doing fine, and they're staying some time with us : D

Edit-MS is rumored to be working on new console too, why would they do that now?? http://www.dualshockers.com/2011/05/10/rumor-microsoft-believed-to-announce-next-console-at-e3-2012/Heil68

Of course they're working on a new console (so is Sony). It's not like launching a console to the market is something console makers start doing one month before release, lol.

That's Nintendo, and that has happened for a lot reasons. And that's why we havethe WiiU coming out soon.[QUOTE="Heil68"]Edit-MS is rumored to be working on new console too, why would they do that now?? http://www.dualshockers.com/2011/05/10/rumor-microsoft-believed-to-announce-next-console-at-e3-2012/IronBass

So I was right, thank you.Heil68

MS and Sony working on new systems now is unrelated to your point, since going from "working on" to "launching" can take several years.

[QUOTE="Heil68"]So I was right, thank you.IronBass

MS and Sony working on new systems now is unrelated to your point, since going from "working on" to "launching" can take several years.

It was totality my point, it's what I was talking about the whole time. I'm not sure were you're going with it all. My point stands. Heil68

I fail to see how new systems being worked on now, to be released in years from now, somehow relates to the current state (hardware sales, software sales, and amount of games being made) of the PS3 and 360, which was the point your post was replying to.

If your point is that "new consoles are gonna be released someday", well, I'm afraid that doesn't even classify as "a point", since it's a bit too obvious (besides being unrelated to the post you were replying to).

[QUOTE="Heil68"]It was totality my point, it's what I was talking about the whole time. I'm not sure were you're going with it all. My point stands. IronBass

[QUOTE="TH1Sx1SxSPARTA"]lol and pc games can do twice that, during GAMEPLAY!!! lol this is the funniest thread in a whileCorbraMax

You can actuallyplay Gears 3 in 60fps using hardware motion interpolation (Motion Flow, Auto Motion Plus...etc)

Controller latency be damned though.

Cutscenes fps don't count, it's about the gameplay though the opening cinematic video was impressive.

Are we talking about the ugly intro cut scene? :lol:nutcrackr

No, we're talking abou the Gears 3 intro scene. :)

[QUOTE="McStrongfast"]

[QUOTE="kraken2109"]

Framerate makes next to no difference in a cutscene since you're not controlling it.

Films are 24fps, do you complain about them being a low framerate?

DJ_Headshot

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/james-cameron-urges-industry-use-173577

Glitchspot won't allow me to post links any longer, so you'll have to copypaste that one.

Impressive for real time cutscenes but it's a cutscene. They should of crammed Crysis graphics and gotten an minimum of 25 FPS rather than have 60 FPS.ocstew

The cutscenes dropped the object based motion blur to run like that. Maybe Turn 10 showed them some secrets in getting the cutscenes to run at 60fps?

Because the previous Gears cutscenes were generally not smooth.

People care, I see it every day in SW's. That's depressing, the tech is 6 years and there's nothing fine about it. Well by fact, the 360 is already obsolete. But in terms of PC and PS3, the 360 is old hardware. The PC is extremely upgradable and you can pretty much do what ever you want with it. The Xbox does not have any thing new. A gaming PC now a days can wipe the floor with the 360. Games have gotten unbelievably more sophisticated and graphically impressive this generation, moreso than any previous generation. Year by year, graphics and amount of things on the screen keeps going up. I guess you just have to settle then when nothing else is available. *sigh*Heil68

Suppose the very top tier can still look alright (see Uncharted 3 and Gears 3).

They would look unnatural and ruin the cinematic feel of movies and make them look like soap operas do not want that keep films at 24-30fps and people who want movies to look like soap operas buy a tv with motion flow technology and enable it and everyone is happyDJ_Headshot

No, we're talking abou the Gears 3 intro scene. :)

FoolwithaLancer

[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

that would require a massive overhaul of current systems aint gonna happen.

Films are perfectly fine at 24fps and will continue to be good sure there is some benefits i'll give it that but it requires tech thats established in an industry thats pretty much standardised to become fragmented the cinema companies wont like it nor would the movie companies themselves.

McStrongfast

I haven't read into the tech side of this much at all, but Cameron and Jackson state that most digital projectors will only require a firmware upgrade. Jackson says WB estimates 10,000 screens will be capable of projecting the film at 48 FPS by December 2012.

To my knowledge The Hobbit is the first movie to be projected at being projected at a high framerate.
http://www.facebook.com/notes/peter-jackson/48-frames-per-second/10150222861171558

Some cinema's still dont use Digital projection and still in the midst of being rolled out in some territories...its unfeasable right now.

Not only is the actual intro for Gears of War 3 not 60fps... It's blatant CGI...

Not only is the actual intro for Gears of War 3 not 60fps... It's blatant CGI...

CorbraMax

which are pre-rendered.

Well whoop de do. Can't every cutscene in every game do that? I guaruntee it can't do that in gameplay.

Well whoop de do. Can't every cutscene in every game do that? I guaruntee it can't do that in gameplay.

789shadow

Nope. Because the framerate in Gears 1 & 2 cutscenes tend to hover below 30fps.