The Casual vs Hardcore gamer debate is a freaking cancer.

Weeaboos aren't gamers neither!

We're all gamers, some of us are more involved in the gaming industry , we can weigh in on gaming matters better than others because we have more insight hence we can call ourselves the enthusiast or "hardcore" .... it's all semantics.

Personally , i call those who ain't involved in the industry and just play some streamlined games like CoD and stuff , casual. But i don't consider myself "superior" or sth .... it's just for differentiation.

I haven't seen that debate in a long time before you brought it up. People talked about it a lot when the Wii was current I remember. Haven't really seen anyone blame the casuals for a bad game since.. It's probably there still, but I really don't think it's "killing us" gamers, as you put it.

Well he's right. If DK is hardcore then Dota, CS:GO and Dark Souls etc are impossible games.

@shawty_beatz: Funny you say that, Donkey Kong Country is harder then Dark Souls. Im a Dark Souls pro.

@Mercenary848: Debates about graphics are a f###ing cancer.

This debate is always dumb cause someone may not be a "hardcore" gaming to a game you play a lot but they may put 20, 30 0r 50 hours in a game that you have no interest in, so they can turn around and call you a "casual" in that. It's just dumb.

I think its the amount of time you play games, not which games you play even when talking the difference between Candy Crush and Hearts of Iron 3

Teh Hardcorez bruh.

I'm more of a Manti-CORE, because I play everything.

Huh....? Huh? No....? lol

**rimshot**

Thank you, you're all beautiful, I'll be here all week. Tip the man at the door.

I find it humorous that some folks here call themselves "hardcore" games. Many of these "hardcore" gamers buy fewer than 4-5 games a year, don't have online subscriptions like PS+ or XBL, and some don't even own current gen consoles. I know many "casuals" who buy a game every month, own at least one current gen console or gaming PC and have online subscriptions so they can play online etc. What makes a person"hardcore"? Are they "hardcore" because of the games they like? Because games like Uncharted, The Witcher 3 and Quantum Break are casual games aimed at story telling rather than challenging the player. A person that is good at Splatoon or Rocket League is far more "hardcore" in my book.

Labels are lame.

Indeed, look at me girls, I'm a TRUE gamer!

Maybe that is because the AAA market has basically abandoned winning formulas and game designs in chasing the $.. Hence why we are seeing said demand..

@Mercenary848: business before pleasure is why games come out missing content.

Not lazy devs. Ask anyone a favor with no or lack of pay involed and watch jow " lazy" they become.