The Call Of Duty franchise ruined good FPS

Casuals win again. When have a game like blackops that involes no skills, its just a arcade shooter that a kid and his mom can play, of course its going to sell tons. This is why games (FPS) are being ruined. All devs care about is how many people of age 1-100 can play this game.

Crysis > crysis 2 ( features were taken out, less suit modes, to complicated for the casuals )

Battlefield 3 now has heal over time, get shot and the screen turns red. Coming from BF2 which was a PC exclusive with a heath bar.

Of course devs care about how many people can play their game, more people = more sales. Developers are not just mindless drones, they have families that they need to feed and lives to live so they need to do whatever they can to make good money to achieve that. And before you say stuff like developers make a crap load of cash like those who work on Call of Duty, the low level employees like the basic programmers do not make the millions of dollars. What you probably over look is that developers are most likely trying to achieve this goal AND trying to cater to the ones who made their game popular, it is probably just very difficult so some compromises must be made

Battlefield 3 now has heal over time, get shot and the screen turns red. Coming from BF2 which was a PC exclusive with a heath bar.

Hermits now think a game with recharging health is instantly casual?

Hermits now think a game with recharging health is instantly casual?

StealthMonkey4

It alos killed original topics on Gamespot. Good greif. Another CoD thread...w4rrior17

I agree, the game came out months ago, give it a damn break...

How are suit modes too complicated in Crysis? lol.

its the devs fault for deciding to copy what cod did. It is in no way activisions fault that so many fps use the cod formula.

Halo: Reach has a health bar and that's console exclusive! :o

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Hermits now think a game with recharging health is instantly casual?

millerlight89

I meant the elitist hermits who are constantly complaining about everything.

Of course devs care about how many people can play their game, more people = more sales. Developers are not just mindless drones, they have families that they need to feed and lives to live so they need to do whatever they can to make good money to achieve that. And before you say stuff like developers make a crap load of cash like those who work on Call of Duty, the low level employees like the basic programmers do not make the millions of dollars. What you probably over look is that developers are most likely trying to achieve this goal AND trying to cater to the ones who made their game popular, it is probably just very difficult so some compromises must be

djohnstonXCII

I don't really like COD but if COD ruined all the good FPS games then the others devs (well publishers really) must really suck or have their priorities messed up.

What is this COD requires no skill crap? Camping requires no skill, but there is no rule that you have to camp in COD, when i play it... i dont camp.

Because the MP of Crysis was just so outstandingly popular and well done.AAllxxjjnn

What is this COD requires no skill crap? Camping requires no skill, but there is no rule that you have to camp in COD, when i play it... i dont camp.

markinthedark

I agree, CoD does require skill, that's why people are better than others, Im sure the people saying "CoD requires no skill" are just terrible at it. It's not even mathematically possible for it to be so easy, for every kill you get, someone else gets a death.

has TC everplayed BC2 the health is probablly going to be similar. It's regenerating but takes foreverrrrrr to regenerate, tht's why there's medics

Because the MP of Crysis was just so outstandingly popular and well done.AAllxxjjnn

[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]Because the MP of Crysis was just so outstandingly popular and well done.DarkLink77

I know you hate COD but I really am not understanding of everyone's beef with it. they made a popular game, its not their fault everyone is copying them. Eventually you have to point the blame to those producing the content and not those who made it popular. If I made an insanely popular game am I to blane for other people blatantly copying me?

[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]Because the MP of Crysis was just so outstandingly popular and well done.DarkLink77

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]Because the MP of Crysis was just so outstandingly popular and well done.ActicEdge

I know you hate COD but I really am not understanding of everyone's beef with it. they made a popular game, its not their fault everyone is copying them. Eventually you have to point the blame to those producing the content and not those who made it popular. If I made an insanely popular game am I to blane for other people blatantly copying me?

What is this COD requires no skill crap? Camping requires no skill, but there is no rule that you have to camp in COD, when i play it... i dont camp.

markinthedark

Halo started it. CoD finished it. It's the end of the world.:shock:

Halo started it. CoD finished it. It's the end of the world.:shock:

glez13

The difference being Halo is actually, y'know... good. PC shooters could still be PC shooters when Halo was the biggest thing around.

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Halo started it. CoD finished it. It's the end of the world.:shock:

DarkLink77

The difference being Halo is actually, y'know... good. PC shooters could still be PC shooters when Halo was the biggest thing around.

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What is this COD requires no skill crap? Camping requires no skill, but there is no rule that you have to camp in COD, when i play it... i dont camp.

Shake_McGee

[QUOTE="Shake_McGee"][QUOTE="markinthedark"]

What is this COD requires no skill crap? Camping requires no skill, but there is no rule that you have to camp in COD, when i play it... i dont camp.

mitu123

[QUOTE="markinthedark"]

What is this COD requires no skill crap? Camping requires no skill, but there is no rule that you have to camp in COD, when i play it... i dont camp.

Shake_McGee

I agree to a certain extent. But quick reflexes and situational awareness are indeed skills.

And if COD doesnt require it im not sure what fps games these people think do require skill. Only FPS games that i think take more skill are older ones like Quake/UT and Halo to a lesser extent.

[QUOTE="Shake_McGee"][QUOTE="markinthedark"]

What is this COD requires no skill crap? Camping requires no skill, but there is no rule that you have to camp in COD, when i play it... i dont camp.

mitu123

Yeah because "realistic" = running around in circles and jumping while firing upwards of 10 shots into someone's body. Yeah thats realistic....:roll:

I cannot count the amount of times someone has seen me first and start shooting yet I get the kill because I have more.....skill.....than they do.

Two people with Strelas will take out any air support within seconds.

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[QUOTE="Shake_McGee"] Please. Any "realistic" shooter where you can kill somebody with 3-4 bullets is NOT skill based. It simply becomes a game of who sees who first. It can be fun, but there is absolutely no skill required other than a fast twitchy finger.Console_Gamer93

Yeah because "realistic" = running around in circles and jumping while firing upwards of 10 shots into someone's body. Yeah thats realistic....:roll:

I cannot count the amount of times someone has seen me yet I get the kill because I have more.....skill.....than they do.

Two people with Strelas will take out any air support within seconds.

[QUOTE="Shake_McGee"][QUOTE="markinthedark"]

What is this COD requires no skill crap? Camping requires no skill, but there is no rule that you have to camp in COD, when i play it... i dont camp.

mitu123

[QUOTE="Shake_McGee"][QUOTE="markinthedark"]

What is this COD requires no skill crap? Camping requires no skill, but there is no rule that you have to camp in COD, when i play it... i dont camp.

mitu123

play barebones mode with no killstreak rewards... problem solved. Nobody is forcing you to play modes with killstreaks.

Griffball in halo reach takes no skill, so i simply avoid that gametype.

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[QUOTE="mitu123"] Killstreaks make it worse, any killstreak that involves the chopper will get you easy kills.

DarkLink77

Yeah because "realistic" = running around in circles and jumping while firing upwards of 10 shots into someone's body. Yeah thats realistic....:roll:

I cannot count the amount of times someone has seen me yet I get the kill because I have more.....skill.....than they do.

Two people with Strelas will take out any air support within seconds.

No they didnt, the people that buy them did.

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="Console_Gamer93"]

Yeah because "realistic" = running around in circles and jumping while firing upwards of 10 shots into someone's body. Yeah thats realistic....:roll:

I cannot count the amount of times someone has seen me yet I get the kill because I have more.....skill.....than they do.

Two people with Strelas will take out any air support within seconds.

i5750at4Ghz

Maybe if all you had to do was stand still.

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="Shake_McGee"] Please. Any "realistic" shooter where you can kill somebody with 3-4 bullets is NOT skill based. It simply becomes a game of who sees who first. It can be fun, but there is absolutely no skill required other than a fast twitchy finger.Console_Gamer93

Yeah because "realistic" = running around in circles and jumping while firing upwards of 10 shots into someone's body. Yeah thats realistic....:roll:

I cannot count the amount of times someone has seen me first and start shooting yet I get the kill because I have more.....skill.....than they do.

Two people with Strelas will take out any air support within seconds.

BTW, there's SWAT if you want to kill faster.

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Those games never claimed to be realistic. And they DO take more skill. Anyone who thinks Call of Duty takes more skill than something like Quake is out of their damn mind.DarkLink77

Maybe if all you had to do was stand still.

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="Console_Gamer93"]

Yeah because "realistic" = running around in circles and jumping while firing upwards of 10 shots into someone's body. Yeah thats realistic....:roll:

I cannot count the amount of times someone has seen me yet I get the kill because I have more.....skill.....than they do.

Two people with Strelas will take out any air support within seconds.

i5750at4Ghz

games like quake/UT and halo do require you to dodge while you are shooting... so there is an added layer of difficulty present imo.

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="Shake_McGee"] Please. Any "realistic" shooter where you can kill somebody with 3-4 bullets is NOT skill based. It simply becomes a game of who sees who first. It can be fun, but there is absolutely no skill required other than a fast twitchy finger.markinthedark

play barebones mode with no killstreak rewards... problem solved. Nobody is forcing you to play modes with killstreaks.

Griffball in halo reach takes no skill, so i simply avoid that gametype.

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="Shake_McGee"] Please. Any "realistic" shooter where you can kill somebody with 3-4 bullets is NOT skill based. It simply becomes a game of who sees who first. It can be fun, but there is absolutely no skill required other than a fast twitchy finger.markinthedark

play barebones mode with no killstreak rewards... problem solved. Nobody is forcing you to play modes with killstreaks.

Griffball in halo reach takes no skill, so i simply avoid that gametype.

Yeah, but Griffball is a very small part of Halo. You're asking us to ignore 90% of Black Ops :roll:

And even in barebones, it's still rather noobish.

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Those games never claimed to be realistic. And they DO take more skill. Anyone who thinks Call of Duty takes more skill than something like Quake is out of their damn mind.markinthedark

games like quake/UT and halo do require you to dodge while you are shooting... so there is an added layer of difficulty present imo.

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"] It's all the same. Point and click.i5750at4Ghz

Maybe if all you had to do was stand still.

[QUOTE="markinthedark"]

[QUOTE="mitu123"] Killstreaks make it worse, any killstreak that involves the chopper will get you easy kills.

mitu123

play barebones mode with no killstreak rewards... problem solved. Nobody is forcing you to play modes with killstreaks.

Griffball in halo reach takes no skill, so i simply avoid that gametype.

[QUOTE="i5750at4Ghz"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

Maybe if all you had to do was stand still.

DarkLink77

All deathmatch based FPS require the same skills. Good aim, solid reflexes, and basic flanking. If you can get these three things down you will dominate in every single deathmatch based FPS on the market.

I don't care what FPS you're playing getting off the first shot in a firefight is a massive advantage.