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#51 CaseyWegner
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easily bioware.

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#52 Zuzuvela
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I dont think there is a single top dev, but I reckon theres a small number of 'elite' dev teams Rockstar Naughty Dog Valve Bethesda (Bungie could be up there but need more successful franchises than just Halo,Same with Respawn)
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#53 freedomfreak
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Rockstar.
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="faizan_faizan"]

No.

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Yes. Mario, Pokemon, Counter Strike, League of Legends, The Sims, Pac-Man, Halo, Call of Duty, FIFA, Madden, all franchises that are at least as famous as, if not more famous than, GTA. Which automatically, by definition, makes GTA, at best, one of the most famous gaming franchises.

In the south east Asian countries, there are a lot of people who have no idea what Mario is, yet they know what GTA is. 

False, actually. I would know. I come from one. Most people have played Mario on those old Famicom rip offs. Also, that completely disregards Pokemon, which is inarguably more famous.
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#55 Zuzuvela
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[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"]but not even close to being THE most famous.charizard1605

No.

Yes. Mario, Pokemon, Counter Strike, League of Legends, The Sims, Pac-Man, Halo, Call of Duty, FIFA, Madden, all franchises that are at least as famous as, if not more famous than, GTA. Which automatically, by definition, makes GTA, at best, one of the most famous gaming franchises.

Counter Strike, League of Legends and maybe Madden (I doubt how well known it is in non US countries) are not more well known then GTA And Pac-man and the Sims arent care about as much as the GTA games are in this day and age
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#56 HadOne2Many
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Seeing Turn 10 get a few nods here too. Also one of my favorites, but I just see them as a one trick pony. They definitely make waves and force other devs in their genre to play catch up, but IMO Rockstar does this same thing for the entire industry. I honestly feel they are in a league of their own. Even the titles that aren't as successful as GTA are pushing the boundaries as to what we should expect from our games, whether it is through story, acting, animation, graphics or game mechanics. They always seem to raise the bar and bring something new that other companies are soon to copy.
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[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] Yes. Mario, Pokemon, Counter Strike, League of Legends, The Sims, Pac-Man, Halo, Call of Duty, FIFA, Madden, all franchises that are at least as famous as, if not more famous than, GTA. Which automatically, by definition, makes GTA, at best, one of the most famous gaming franchises.charizard1605

In the south east Asian countries, there are a lot of people who have no idea what Mario is, yet they know what GTA is. 

False, actually. I would know. I come from one. Most people have played Mario on those old Famicom rip offs. Also, that completely disregards Pokemon, which is inarguably more famous.

No you don't. India is in South Asia. No eastern in there.
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#58 shawn30
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Seeing Turn 10 get a few nods here too. Also one of my favorites, but I just see them as a one trick pony. They definitely make waves and force other devs in their genre to play catch up, but IMO Rockstar does this same thing for the entire industry. I honestly feel they are in a league of their own. Even the titles that aren't as successful as GTA are pushing the boundaries as to what we should expect from our games, whether it is through story, acting, animation, graphics or game mechanics. They always seem to raise the bar and bring something new that other companies are soon to copy. HadOne2Many
I can agree with this as Rockstar games are usually very high quality. But even though Turn 10 only makes racers, they haven't made a bad one yet. They continue to push the hardware and Forza community forward. I give them plenty of respect.
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="faizan_faizan"]

In the south east Asian countries, there are a lot of people who have no idea what Mario is, yet they know what GTA is. 

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False, actually. I would know. I come from one. Most people have played Mario on those old Famicom rip offs. Also, that completely disregards Pokemon, which is inarguably more famous.

No you don't. India is in South Asia. No eastern in there.

If you are going to argue that Mario isn't well known in Thailand or Singapore, then I don't know what to say to you. Regardless, I think faizan was referring to India and the like.
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#60 Sagem28
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crusader kings 2 = hnnnnngblue_hazy_basic

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CK2 is the bomb, yo

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="charizard1605"] False, actually. I would know. I come from one. Most people have played Mario on those old Famicom rip offs. Also, that completely disregards Pokemon, which is inarguably more famous.

No you don't. India is in South Asia. No eastern in there.

If you are going to argue that Mario isn't well known in Thailand or Singapore, then I don't know what to say to you. Regardless, I think faizan was referring to India and the like.

I didn't argue that. I don't give a sh*t about that argument you're having.
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#62 HadOne2Many
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I added a poll based on the responses so far. I sorry if I left off anyone's favorite, I only had 5 slots.
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#63 Sagem28
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People voting Biocrap should take a long hard look at themselves in the mirror.

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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]crusader kings 2 = hnnnnngSagem28

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CK2 is the bomb, yo

You have good taste sir!
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#65 Sagem28
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[QUOTE="Sagem28"]

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]crusader kings 2 = hnnnnngblue_hazy_basic

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CK2 is the bomb, yo

You have good taste sir!

Right back at ya

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#66 HadOne2Many
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People voting Biocrap should take a long hard look at themselves in the mirror.

Sagem28
I'm shocked too. I enjoyed Baldur's Gate and KOTOR as much as the next guy but after the way Mass Effect played out I've lost faith in them.
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#67 gamebreakerz__
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Naughty Dog for sure. Never made a bad game.
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#68 DJ-Lafleur
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Nintendo.

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#69 Sagem28
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[QUOTE="Sagem28"]

People voting Biocrap should take a long hard look at themselves in the mirror.

HadOne2Many

I'm shocked too. I enjoyed Baldur's Gate and KOTOR as much as the next guy but after the way Mass Effect played out I've lost faith in them.

I like you.

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[QUOTE="HadOne2Many"][QUOTE="Sagem28"]

People voting Biocrap should take a long hard look at themselves in the mirror.

Sagem28

I'm shocked too. I enjoyed Baldur's Gate and KOTOR as much as the next guy but after the way Mass Effect played out I've lost faith in them.

I like you.

the ending ruined the entire franchise? :|

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[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="themajormayor"] No you don't. India is in South Asia. No eastern in there.

If you are going to argue that Mario isn't well known in Thailand or Singapore, then I don't know what to say to you. Regardless, I think faizan was referring to India and the like.

I didn't argue that. I don't give a sh*t about that argument you're having.

Then stop butting in where you don't need to.
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#72 khoofia_pika
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BioWare
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#73 shawn30
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[QUOTE="Sagem28"]

[QUOTE="HadOne2Many"] I'm shocked too. I enjoyed Baldur's Gate and KOTOR as much as the next guy but after the way Mass Effect played out I've lost faith in them.CaseyWegner

I like you.

the ending ruined the entire franchise? :|

Not for me, I honestly loved the storytelling, missions, and writing of Mass Effect 3. I did hate the ending ti high hell, lol But it couldn't ruin my all-time fav trilogy which is ME
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#74 Sagem28
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the ending ruined the entire franchise? :|

CaseyWegner

Strange, I never saw me type that.

Oh well.

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#75 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="Sagem28"]

I like you.

shawn30

the ending ruined the entire franchise? :|

Not for me, I honestly loved the storytelling, missions, and writing of Mass Effect 3. I did hate the ending ti high hell, lol But it couldn't ruin my all-time fav trilogy which is ME

i thought the ending was good. maybe it's because i didn't play it until the extended ending was released and never experienced just the original one.

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#76 khoofia_pika
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="Sagem28"]

I like you.

shawn30

the ending ruined the entire franchise? :|

Not for me, I honestly loved the storytelling, missions, and writing of Mass Effect 3. I did hate the ending ti high hell, lol But it couldn't ruin my all-time fav trilogy which is ME

This, so much this. (I didn't hate the ending, I'm kinda indifferent towards it)
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#77 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

the ending ruined the entire franchise? :|

Sagem28

Strange, I never saw me type that.

Oh well.

that's why it was a question.

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#78 silversix_
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Rockstar is the most talented because they pay attention to detail. Their games always have good gameplay, nice animations, physics, graphics.
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Rocksteady
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#80 Sagem28
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that's why it was a question.

CaseyWegner

If I really need to explain the current lack of quality in  Bioware games to you than you are part of the problem.

Good day, Sir.

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#81 shawn30
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[QUOTE="shawn30"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

the ending ruined the entire franchise? :|

CaseyWegner

Not for me, I honestly loved the storytelling, missions, and writing of Mass Effect 3. I did hate the ending ti high hell, lol But it couldn't ruin my all-time fav trilogy which is ME

i thought the ending was good. maybe it's because i didn't play it until the extended ending was released and never experienced just the original one.

You know whats funny? And I know I'm in the minority for this. But after spending so much time building those relationships and friendships, I kinda wanted the cheesy ending of everyone meeting up after the battle, some cool lines, hugs, maybe a wedding and everyone having a final goodbye as the credits roll. With the extended ending I dont hate it as much, but I kinda wanted a happy ending for the game with my love interest, ect. The ending they used, while better when it was extended, felt like it wasnt personal when so much of the game from the first one was. Just my two cents.
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#82 Heil68
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From that list Naughty Dog.
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#83 HadOne2Many
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From that list Naughty Dog. Heil68
Yeah Naughty Dog seems to be running away with it. Not sure if it is deserved or just because we are on System Wars though. Also could just be because TLOU is still fresh on everyone's minds.
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Naughty Dog is on that list, but not any part of Nintendo... Absolute fail.

Anyways, Nintendo for sure for having high quantity and quality.

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#85 HadOne2Many
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Naughty Dog is on that list, but not any part of Nintendo... Absolute fail.

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blame the posters, Only had like two people talking about Nintendo.
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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

 

that's why it was a question.

Sagem28

If I really need to explain the current lack of quality in  Bioware games to you than you are part of the problem.

Good day, Sir.

dragon age 2 could have been better and i'm aware of people disappointment with me3's ending. is there more?

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[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="shawn30"] Not for me, I honestly loved the storytelling, missions, and writing of Mass Effect 3. I did hate the ending ti high hell, lol But it couldn't ruin my all-time fav trilogy which is MEshawn30

i thought the ending was good. maybe it's because i didn't play it until the extended ending was released and never experienced just the original one.

You know whats funny? And I know I'm in the minority for this. But after spending so much time building those relationships and friendships, I kinda wanted the cheesy ending of everyone meeting up after the battle, some cool lines, hugs, maybe a wedding and everyone having a final goodbye as the credits roll. With the extended ending I dont hate it as much, but I kinda wanted a happy ending for the game with my love interest, ect. The ending they used, while better when it was extended, felt like it wasnt personal when so much of the game from the first one was. Just my two cents.

i haven't played it yet but i hear that the citadel dlc gives you some of that.

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#88 Pikminmaniac
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[QUOTE="Pikminmaniac"]

Naughty Dog is on that list, but not any part of Nintendo... Absolute fail.

HadOne2Many

blame the posters, Only had like two people talking about Nintendo.

Darn if I was there for the preliminaries it would have made all the difference. My vote counts 101 times. Me plus one for every Pikmin that follows me and they MUST obey me :P

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Rockstar. But im going to throw in my own vote fpr the people that made Sneak King. The free Burger King Xbox360 game from like 6 years ago. Triple A goodness with a side of onion rings.
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Volvo.

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Naughty dog blew me away with uncharted 2 & 3 and the last of us
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If we're going with modern era games I'm saying CD Projekt Red.  They're the golden child of game development right now with the right ideas, the right amount of polish and the right amount of ambition to consistently vault each new release ahead of what they had previously released.

If we're going with best of all time since gaming started it's Nintendo.  That legacy of theirs is too strong to ignore.  You can also consider SquareSoft as well if you ask me.

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[QUOTE="shawn30"][QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

i thought the ending was good. maybe it's because i didn't play it until the extended ending was released and never experienced just the original one.

CaseyWegner

You know whats funny? And I know I'm in the minority for this. But after spending so much time building those relationships and friendships, I kinda wanted the cheesy ending of everyone meeting up after the battle, some cool lines, hugs, maybe a wedding and everyone having a final goodbye as the credits roll. With the extended ending I dont hate it as much, but I kinda wanted a happy ending for the game with my love interest, ect. The ending they used, while better when it was extended, felt like it wasnt personal when so much of the game from the first one was. Just my two cents.

i haven't played it yet but i hear that the citadel dlc gives you some of that.

It really does, but its all before the last chapter of the game. Its not that iconic last ending scene that I felt ME truly needed. Like I know Gears is a dude bro shooter and all, but seeing a soldier toss aside his gar after war and just sit peacefully on the beach, thinking about all he's seen and done and lost, that was IMHO a great ending for Marcus Fenix. Shepard deserved, far, far better before the credits rolled IMHO.
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If we're going with modern era games I'm saying CD Projekt Red.  They're the golden child of game development right now with the right ideas, the right amount of polish and the right amount of ambition to consistently vault each new release ahead of what they had previously released.

If we're going with best of all time since gaming started it's Nintendo.  That legacy of theirs is too strong to ignore.  You can also consider SquareSoft as well if you ask me.

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I think CD Projekt RED will probably need to have at least 2 or 3 good franchises under their belt before they can compete with the others on the list. I was expecting to see a lot more Nintendo supporters though. Super Mario Bros was the first console game I ever beat and I could still probably nail a speed run in 6 or 7 minutes.
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#95 bobcheeseball
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Nintendo tho
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#96 NeonNinja
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[QUOTE="NeonNinja"]

If we're going with modern era games I'm saying CD Projekt Red.  They're the golden child of game development right now with the right ideas, the right amount of polish and the right amount of ambition to consistently vault each new release ahead of what they had previously released.

If we're going with best of all time since gaming started it's Nintendo.  That legacy of theirs is too strong to ignore.  You can also consider SquareSoft as well if you ask me.

HadOne2Many

I think CD Projekt RED will probably need to have at least 2 or 3 good franchises under their belt before they can compete with the others on the list. I was expecting to see a lot more Nintendo supporters though. Super Mario Bros was the first console game I ever beat and I could still probably nail a speed run in 6 or 7 minutes.

I think we should see a stronger CD Projekt line-up over the next few years.  The Witcher series comes to an end soon and Cyberpunk 2077 has a lot of folks intrigued.  It will be interesting to see where they go from Geralt's story, but they have managed to only impress with each release.

I'm also surprised that so few people are mentioning Nintendo.  Sure, they haven't released a real game changer since 2010 (at least one developed in-house), but their legacy is really strong.  Still, I think Nintendo needs to go big very soon.  Super Mario Galaxy 2 is one of the greatest of all time, but they haven't reached those same heights since then.  Now, I haven't played Skyward Sword, but I'm not sure if that game will be on the same level as Galaxy 2.  But I want to see Nintendo drop some bombshells on the WiiU and if that will help push units.

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Obsidian is pretty good. I knw you kids will all cry about their games releasing with bugs, and that does suck, but New Vegas was brilliant and South Park Stick of Truth is going to own, I just know it...

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Untill a company can produce as many highly rated games as RockStar, there king and its not even close.

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#99 Pikminmaniac
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Untill a company can produce as many highly rated games as RockStar, there king and its not even close.

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Nintendo?

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#100 Miketheman83
Member since 2010 • 3156 Posts
Lol at Naughty Dog winning the poll. Cowspot confirmed.