The $600 PC!!!!!!!!

HDD, case, PSU, CPU, Mobo, Ram, k/m, GPU, and OS.

Show me a PC for $600 that can run Crysis at max with AA at 1366x768.

HDD, case, PSU, CPU, Mobo, Ram, k/m, GPU, and OS.

CB4McGusto

what if i told you it cant be done?

Show me a PC for $600 that can run Crysis at max with AA at 1366x768.

HDD, case, PSU, CPU, Mobo, Ram, k/m, GPU, and OS.

CB4McGusto

[QUOTE="CB4McGusto"]Show me a PC for $600 that can run Crysis at max with AA at 1366x768.

HDD, case, PSU, CPU, Mobo, Ram, k/m, GPU, and OS.

RAZZY_B

what if i told you it cant be done?

Then may GOD have mercy on your soul when the hermits find out about your post.

Show me a PC for $600 that can run Crysis at max with AA at 1366x768.

HDD, case, PSU, CPU, Mobo, Ram, k/m, GPU, and OS.

CB4McGusto

Find me a console with the functionality of the PC. Here's the kicker, you've got an unlimited budget.

Yes, you can't find a PC as cheap as a console that will max Crysis. You'll probably need to spend a few hundred dollars more. Of course, for that few hundred dollars, you get something which is vastly superior in value.

[QUOTE="CB4McGusto"]Show me a PC for $600 that can run Crysis at max with AA at 1366x768.

HDD, case, PSU, CPU, Mobo, Ram, k/m, GPU, and OS.

Danm_999

Find me a console with the functionality of the PC. Here's the kicker, you've got an unlimited budget.

Yes, you can't find a PC as cheap as a console that will max Crysis. You'll probably need to spend a few hundred dollars more. Of course, for that few hundred dollars, you get something which is vastly superior in value.

This. I'm willing to bet, however, that somewhere down the line (like several months from now) some hermit will resurrect this thead to show you a computer that costs as much as a console but can play Crysis.

[QUOTE="CB4McGusto"]Show me a PC for $600 that can run Crysis at max with AA at 1366x768.

HDD, case, PSU, CPU, Mobo, Ram, k/m, GPU, and OS.

Danm_999

Find me a console with the functionality of the PC. Here's the kicker, you've got an unlimited budget.

Yes, you can't find a PC as cheap as a console that will max Crysis. You'll probably need to spend a few hundred dollars more. Of course, for that few hundred dollars, you get something which is vastly superior in value.

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/79112.html

Owned?

You can convert it for about $100.

Actually, thinking about it, you could mod it with a nicer graphics card and hdd for about $600 :P

that is impossible maybe if you just upgraded the computer you're using its possible but you don't know how to and really theres no way to find out how. Soo um yeah Consules are better for gameingfootfoe2

Building your own PC is mind-numbingly easy. The only thing that is holding back most people is the price.

[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="CB4McGusto"]Show me a PC for $600 that can run Crysis at max with AA at 1366x768.

HDD, case, PSU, CPU, Mobo, Ram, k/m, GPU, and OS.

Gamerman12362

Find me a console with the functionality of the PC. Here's the kicker, you've got an unlimited budget.

Yes, you can't find a PC as cheap as a console that will max Crysis. You'll probably need to spend a few hundred dollars more. Of course, for that few hundred dollars, you get something which is vastly superior in value.

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/79112.html

Owned?

You can convert it for about $100.

Actually, thinking about it, you could mod it with a nicer graphics card and hdd for about $600 :P

Heh, pretty awesome.

But with 512 MB RAM and, according to the video "serious overheating", it's rich to claim it has the functionality of a modern PC.

that is impossible maybe if you just upgraded the computer you're using its possible but you don't know how to and really theres no way to find out how. Soo um yeah Consules are better for gameingfootfoe2

By this logic, Toyotas are better than Ferrarri's for driving.

[QUOTE="Gamerman12362"][QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="CB4McGusto"]Show me a PC for $600 that can run Crysis at max with AA at 1366x768.

HDD, case, PSU, CPU, Mobo, Ram, k/m, GPU, and OS.

Danm_999

Find me a console with the functionality of the PC. Here's the kicker, you've got an unlimited budget.

Yes, you can't find a PC as cheap as a console that will max Crysis. You'll probably need to spend a few hundred dollars more. Of course, for that few hundred dollars, you get something which is vastly superior in value.

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/79112.html

Owned?

You can convert it for about $100.

Actually, thinking about it, you could mod it with a nicer graphics card and hdd for about $600 :P

Heh, pretty awesome.

But with 512 MB RAM and, according to the video "serious overheating", it's rich to claim it has the functionality of a modern PC.

well he put lots of other stuff in there. I'd say install another fan too, which costs? err... (i don't know- i buy that and the power supply with my cases)

Okay then show me one for $750?

Keep in mind I can get both a 360 and ps3 for $700.

Does the concept of "upgrading" escape you?

Does the reality of Crysis' impact escape you? Do you not realize how far beyond maxed Crysis is when compared to any console game?

BTW....Metal Gear Solid 4 has temporal 2xAA....Halo 3 probably has either 2xAA or none at all....Gears of War has some wishy washy AI on static objects...

and many games on consoles run at resolutions below 720p.

I don't even understand the purpose of your post. If you don't have an OS, LoL. If you don't have a kb/m, LoL. If you don't have a Mobo, PSU, or HDD, again, LoL.

My brother bought 2 gigs of DDR2 RAM 800 Mhz for $20 today, from a good manufacturer....at Fry's.

I have an 8600 GT 256 MB in my PC that I bought for $80 that runs Bioshock maxed....

Why in the hell would anyone need more than that?

By the way, the new ATI chipsets pwn your console and can max Crysis, albeit without anti-aliasing, for $200-300. I think there's some disconnect. Show me a console that can run Crysis? How much self-ownage are you capable of today?

Okay then show me one for $750?

Keep in mind I can get both a 360 and ps3 for $700.

CB4McGusto

Why? The criteria is ridiculously poor.

You ask for a PC that can max Crysis. I have no idea why. Any PC that can max Crysis is obviously so far ahead of the 360 and PS3 it's not funny. Yet you expect them at the same price?

You can find plenty of low-end PCs that can perform at the same level as the PS3 and 360 at around the $600 mark.

It also ignores everything the PC will be able to do that the consoles can't. It's just a terrible question that points out the dubious value of the next-gen consoles rather than how expensive a PC is.

Okay then show me one for $750?

Keep in mind I can get both a 360 and ps3 for $700.

CB4McGusto

And even with your 360 AND PS3 you will fail at running Crysis between the two of them. In fact, even assuming you could coax the developers to make a port to your consoles, it would pale so far in comparison to the PC version it would be ridiculous and between your two consoles, you would again be still incapable of playing Crysis on them.

Show me a console that can run Crysis? How much self-ownage are you capable of today?

BobHipJames

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/79112.html

:P

Show me a PC for $600 that can run Crysis at max with AA at 1366x768.

HDD, case, PSU, CPU, Mobo, Ram, k/m, GPU, and OS.

CB4McGusto

show me a ps3 that can run mgs4 @ 1366 x 768

a e8400, 2gb ram 500gb hdd and radeon 4850 will run it high-max at that setting and costs about the same as a 80gb ps3

That would be a PC in a 360 case.BobHipJames

with intel extreme graphics, good luck getting even the menus to load with that

[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="CB4McGusto"]Show me a PC for $600 that can run Crysis at max with AA at 1366x768.

HDD, case, PSU, CPU, Mobo, Ram, k/m, GPU, and OS.

dragonpuppy

Find me a console with the functionality of the PC. Here's the kicker, you've got an unlimited budget.

Yes, you can't find a PC as cheap as a console that will max Crysis. You'll probably need to spend a few hundred dollars more. Of course, for that few hundred dollars, you get something which is vastly superior in value.

This. I'm willing to bet, however, that somewhere down the line (like several months from now) some hermit will resurrect this thead to show you a computer that costs as much as a console but can play Crysis.

play or play on high? a buget dual core 2gb ram and 8600gt can play crysis fine on med and costs no more than a ps3

Show me a PC for $600 that can run Crysis at max with AA at 1366x768.

HDD, case, PSU, CPU, Mobo, Ram, k/m, GPU, and OS.

CB4McGusto

How good is the 4850 with crysis.gatorteen

Okay then show me one for $750?

Keep in mind I can get both a 360 and ps3 for $700.

CB4McGusto

I will do it once you fine a ps3 that can run mgs4 in 1680 x 1080, or even 1440 x 900 yet you average ps3 can only run 1024 x 586 in its top game. a 8800gt can max out crysis @ that res

[QUOTE="BobHipJames"]

Show me a console that can run Crysis? How much self-ownage are you capable of today?

Gamerman12362

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/79112.html

:P

Joke?

it's not possible. A "hermit pc" will cost you $1000ish without the moniter. Gamerman12362

Show me a PC for $600 that can run Crysis at max with AA at 1366x768.

HDD, case, PSU, CPU, Mobo, Ram, k/m, GPU, and OS.

CB4McGusto

Wow, u fail.

I can get u $600 worth of graphics card that specify with gaming that will do that with Crysis but the thing is, a $600 PC is a COMPUTER! So its much more than gaming, You should say, add $600 worth of parts ontop of an average computer then it would be a fair question.

Show me a PC for $600 that can run Crysis at max with AA at 1366x768.

HDD, case, PSU, CPU, Mobo, Ram, k/m, GPU, and OS.

CB4McGusto

I will show you a PC for that price that can max crysis at 1920x1080 if you can show me any console that can max crysis, play ALL games at 1920x1080, also do everything that a PC can do at the speed a top spec PC can do it.

You show me the console and i'll show you the PC.

[QUOTE="CB4McGusto"]Show me a PC for $600 that can run Crysis at max with AA at 1366x768.

HDD, case, PSU, CPU, Mobo, Ram, k/m, GPU, and OS.

Frozzik

I will show you a PC for that price that can max crysis at 1920x1080 if you can show me any console that can max crysis, play ALL games at 1920x1080, also do everything that a PC can do at the speed a top spec PC can do it.

You show me the console and i'll show you the PC.

/thread

I think the crux of the argument is that PC gamers like to tout Crysis when benchmarking PCs vs Consoles. The common logic here of course is that for quite a bit more investment than a console one SHOULD have a better gaming experience. The best gaming value still resides in the console, which is probably why so many millions of people chose to game on consoles rather than PCs.

The reality is that, to have a gaming rig capable of playing Crisis in any respectable state, even if upgrading, the average PC owner would need Direct X10 (Windows Vista), and a graphics card and RAM upgrade. If we`re just talking normal games than I think we have a more solid comparison, but I still think the value proposition still speaks in favor of the console. Chilaxing on the couch in front of the tube, headset on, friends list set, and controller in hand is the way most people like to game. Couple that with the fact that console gaming is closed system, meaning that everyone across all platforms has a unified gaming experience, and you see why people opt the console route.

No hate on PC owners though. If you have the means and want the experience, more power to you.

Okay then show me one for $750?

Keep in mind I can get both a 360 and ps3 for $700.

CB4McGusto

but still have no where near crysis quality viewing pleasure...

[QUOTE="CB4McGusto"]Show me a PC for $600 that can run Crysis at max with AA at 1366x768.

HDD, case, PSU, CPU, Mobo, Ram, k/m, GPU, and OS.

Frozzik

I will show you a PC for that price that can max crysis at 1920x1080 if you can show me any console that can max crysis, play ALL games at 1920x1080, also do everything that a PC can do at the speed a top spec PC can do it.

You show me the console and i'll show you the PC.

are you kidding me?

I think the crux of the argument is that PC gamers like to tout Crysis when benchmarking PCs vs Consoles. The common logic here of course is that for quite a bit more investment than a console one SHOULD have a better gaming experience. The best gaming value still resides in the console, which is probably why so many millions of people chose to game on consoles rather than PCs.

The reality is that, to have a gaming rig capable of playing Crisis in any respectable state, even if upgrading, the average PC owner would need Direct X10 (Windows Vista), and a graphics card and RAM upgrade. If we`re just talking normal games than I think we have a more solid comparison, but I still think the value proposition still speaks in favor of the console. Chilaxing on the couch in front of the tube, headset on, friends list set, and controller in hand is the way most people like to game. Couple that with the fact that console gaming is closed system, meaning that everyone across all platforms has a unified gaming experience, and you see why people opt the console route.

No hate on PC owners though. If you have the means and want the experience, more power to you.

CubeJL

Really?hmmm... I have my doubts on that. I'm thinking W.O.W. in mind right now...

Vista is not needed to have the best crysis experience.

Nothing new and done on PC just as well.

here's one worth 926$ :o

http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=10113848
i think it will run crysis pretty alright :o

CASE: ATX MEDIUM TOWER CASE 350 WATT (BEIGE COLOR) CPU: (Sckt775)Intel® CoreTM 2 Duo E8300 CPU @ 2.83GHz 1333FSB 6MB L2 Cache 64-bit MOTHERBOARD: MSI G31M-F Intel G31 Chipset LGA775 FSB1333 DDR2 Mainboard MEMORY: (Req.DDR2 MainBoard)2GB (2x1GB) PC6400 DDR2/800 Dual Channel Memory (Corsair or Major Brand) VIDEO CARD: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT 512MB 16X PCI Express (Major Brand Powered by NVIDIA) VIDEO CARD 2: NONE VIDEO CARD 3: NONE LCD Monitor: NONE HARD DRIVE: Single Hard Drive (160GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 8MB Cache 7200RPM HDD) Data Hard Drive: NONE Optical Drive: (Special Price) LG 20X DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW DRIVE DUAL LAYER (BLACK COLOR) Optical Drive 2: NONE SOUND: 3D WAVE ON-BOARD 5.1 SOUND CARD

The above system is PRE-Built. It costs under $800 comes with M/KB and Vista.

This system will destroy every game on the market and run them at 1920x1080 no problem at all. It will play crysis at a graphical level no console would ever be able to emulate. On top of this it will do everything other PC's will do but very fast. Burning home movies will be fast and easy and multi tasking made faster and easier.

http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/Intel_Core_2_Duo_Custom_Build_Configurator#configurator_top

Now, show me a link to a console for the same price or under that can do what this PC can do

[QUOTE="CubeJL"]

I think the crux of the argument is that PC gamers like to tout Crysis when benchmarking PCs vs Consoles. The common logic here of course is that for quite a bit more investment than a console one SHOULD have a better gaming experience. The best gaming value still resides in the console, which is probably why so many millions of people chose to game on consoles rather than PCs.

The reality is that, to have a gaming rig capable of playing Crisis in any respectable state, even if upgrading, the average PC owner would need Direct X10 (Windows Vista), and a graphics card and RAM upgrade. If we`re just talking normal games than I think we have a more solid comparison, but I still think the value proposition still speaks in favor of the console. Chilaxing on the couch in front of the tube, headset on, friends list set, and controller in hand is the way most people like to game. Couple that with the fact that console gaming is closed system, meaning that everyone across all platforms has a unified gaming experience, and you see why people opt the console route.

No hate on PC owners though. If you have the means and want the experience, more power to you.

Bebi_vegeta

Really?hmmm... I have my doubts on that. I'm thinking W.O.W. in mind right now...

Vista is not needed to have the best crysis experience.

Nothing new and done on PC just as well.

Of course I am assuming that not many PC gamers enjoy their games from the comfort of their living rooms. Correct me if I am wrong, but I seldom, if ever, see a PC gamer enjoying his hobby anywhere other than in front of a desk (laptops not withstanding).

Also, I respect the power of WOW, )but its subscriber base is right around the 10m mark. Consider that Halo 3, for instance, sold through $170m on opening day (the largest one day gross in entertainment history). With that kind of selling power, right out of the gate, its no wonder why gaming companies like Sony, MS, and Nintendo are focusing on console markets for their bread and butter. Xbox Live membership, alone, is upwards of 12 million subscribers as well.

In fact if you look at the top 10 best selling franchises of all times http://videogames.yahoo.com/feature/the-top-10-best-selling-game-franchises/532199-2 you can see that the lion`s share go to consoles. It`s not even close.

There`s a reason people prefer console gaming, folks.

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="CubeJL"]

I think the crux of the argument is that PC gamers like to tout Crysis when benchmarking PCs vs Consoles. The common logic here of course is that for quite a bit more investment than a console one SHOULD have a better gaming experience. The best gaming value still resides in the console, which is probably why so many millions of people chose to game on consoles rather than PCs.

The reality is that, to have a gaming rig capable of playing Crisis in any respectable state, even if upgrading, the average PC owner would need Direct X10 (Windows Vista), and a graphics card and RAM upgrade. If we`re just talking normal games than I think we have a more solid comparison, but I still think the value proposition still speaks in favor of the console. Chilaxing on the couch in front of the tube, headset on, friends list set, and controller in hand is the way most people like to game. Couple that with the fact that console gaming is closed system, meaning that everyone across all platforms has a unified gaming experience, and you see why people opt the console route.

No hate on PC owners though. If you have the means and want the experience, more power to you.

CubeJL

Really?hmmm... I have my doubts on that. I'm thinking W.O.W. in mind right now...

Vista is not needed to have the best crysis experience.

Nothing new and done on PC just as well.

Of course I am assuming that not many PC gamers enjoy their games from the comfort of their living rooms. Correct me if I am wrong, but I seldom, if ever, see a PC gamer enjoying his hoby anywhere other than in front of a desk (laptops withstanding.

Also, I respect the power of WOW, but its subscriber base is right around the 10m mark. Consider that Halo 3, for instance, sold through $170m on opening day (the largest one day gross in entertainment history). With that kind of selling power, right out of the gate, its no wonder why gaming companies like Sony, MS, and Nintendo are focusing on console markets for their bread and butter. Xbox Live membership, alone, is upwards of 12 million subscribers as well.

In fact if you look at the top 10 best selling franchises of all times http://videogames.yahoo.com/feature/the-top-10-best-selling-game-franchises/532199-2 you can see that the lion`s share go to consoles. It`s not even close.

There`s a reason people prefer console gaming, folks.

http://news.digitaltrends.com/news-article/12152/burning-crusade-sets-one-day-sales-record

WoW gets "out of the gate" sales aswell

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Best_selling_video_games

The Sims is the single biggest selling game of all time even beating the Mario and Tetris bundles

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="CubeJL"]

I think the crux of the argument is that PC gamers like to tout Crysis when benchmarking PCs vs Consoles. The common logic here of course is that for quite a bit more investment than a console one SHOULD have a better gaming experience. The best gaming value still resides in the console, which is probably why so many millions of people chose to game on consoles rather than PCs.

The reality is that, to have a gaming rig capable of playing Crisis in any respectable state, even if upgrading, the average PC owner would need Direct X10 (Windows Vista), and a graphics card and RAM upgrade. If we`re just talking normal games than I think we have a more solid comparison, but I still think the value proposition still speaks in favor of the console. Chilaxing on the couch in front of the tube, headset on, friends list set, and controller in hand is the way most people like to game. Couple that with the fact that console gaming is closed system, meaning that everyone across all platforms has a unified gaming experience, and you see why people opt the console route.

No hate on PC owners though. If you have the means and want the experience, more power to you.

CubeJL

Really?hmmm... I have my doubts on that. I'm thinking W.O.W. in mind right now...

Vista is not needed to have the best crysis experience.

Nothing new and done on PC just as well.

Of course I am assuming that not many PC gamers enjoy their games from the comfort of their living rooms. Correct me if I am wrong, but I seldom, if ever, see a PC gamer enjoying his hoby anywhere other than in front of a desk (laptops withstanding.

Also, I respect the power of WOW, but its subscriber base is right around the 10m mark. Consider that Halo 3, for instance, sold through $170m on opening day (the largest one day gross in entertainment history). With that kind of selling power, right out of the gate, its no wonder why gaming companies like Sony, MS, and Nintendo are focusing on console markets for their bread and butter. Xbox Live membership, alone, is upwards of 12 million subscribers as well.

In fact if you look at the top 10 best selling franchises of all times http://videogames.yahoo.com/feature/the-top-10-best-selling-game-franchises/532199-2 you can see that the lion`s share go to consoles. It`s not even close.

There`s a reason people prefer console gaming, folks.

I don't think there is any doubt consoles are easier and a better choice for gaming for the masses. I do believe most people don't realise just what the PC has to offer though, or just how easy it is. I play my PC on the same TV as my PS3. I sit on the same sofa. I use a pad or a wireless m/kb. You don't need to sit at a desk. The PC can be what you want it to be, thats the beauty.

As a gaming platform it offers so much. Consoles will always be the choice of most, this does not make it better though.

As for sales figures, well. I believe steam has over 15 million members, as this is a 3rd party program thats very impressive. The fact is devs continue to make games for PC, some very unique ones too. For me the PC offers a gaming experience iu could never find on a console. Its a shame many will not even try it. I'm currently playing Sins of a Solar Empire, its truly amazing, there is nothing, not one single game accross all the big 3 consoles that could give me this experience.

[QUOTE="CubeJL"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="CubeJL"]

I think the crux of the argument is that PC gamers like to tout Crysis when benchmarking PCs vs Consoles. The common logic here of course is that for quite a bit more investment than a console one SHOULD have a better gaming experience. The best gaming value still resides in the console, which is probably why so many millions of people chose to game on consoles rather than PCs.

The reality is that, to have a gaming rig capable of playing Crisis in any respectable state, even if upgrading, the average PC owner would need Direct X10 (Windows Vista), and a graphics card and RAM upgrade. If we`re just talking normal games than I think we have a more solid comparison, but I still think the value proposition still speaks in favor of the console. Chilaxing on the couch in front of the tube, headset on, friends list set, and controller in hand is the way most people like to game. Couple that with the fact that console gaming is closed system, meaning that everyone across all platforms has a unified gaming experience, and you see why people opt the console route.

No hate on PC owners though. If you have the means and want the experience, more power to you.

pieatorium

Really?hmmm... I have my doubts on that. I'm thinking W.O.W. in mind right now...

Vista is not needed to have the best crysis experience.

Nothing new and done on PC just as well.

Of course I am assuming that not many PC gamers enjoy their games from the comfort of their living rooms. Correct me if I am wrong, but I seldom, if ever, see a PC gamer enjoying his hoby anywhere other than in front of a desk (laptops withstanding.

Also, I respect the power of WOW, but its subscriber base is right around the 10m mark. Consider that Halo 3, for instance, sold through $170m on opening day (the largest one day gross in entertainment history). With that kind of selling power, right out of the gate, its no wonder why gaming companies like Sony, MS, and Nintendo are focusing on console markets for their bread and butter. Xbox Live membership, alone, is upwards of 12 million subscribers as well.

In fact if you look at the top 10 best selling franchises of all times http://videogames.yahoo.com/feature/the-top-10-best-selling-game-franchises/532199-2 you can see that the lion`s share go to consoles. It`s not even close.

There`s a reason people prefer console gaming, folks.

http://news.digitaltrends.com/news-article/12152/burning-crusade-sets-one-day-sales-record

WoW gets "out of the gate" sales aswell

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Best_selling_video_games

The Sims is the single biggest selling game of all time even beating the Mario and Tetris bundles

If you click the Wikipedia link that you provided and page down to the area titled `Franchises`, you will see that the SIMS is not the best selling game franchise of all time. You can also use the link I provided as well if you would like to further verify.

I payed respect to the WOW franchise, but it doesn`t hold a candle to the selling power of console software.

[QUOTE="footfoe2"]that is impossible maybe if you just upgraded the computer you're using its possible but you don't know how to and really theres no way to find out how. Soo um yeah Consules are better for gameingKritical_Strike

Building your own PC is mind-numbingly easy. The only thing that is holding back most people is the price.

It's rather idiot-proof. I've never built a PC, but I've certainly switched out various parts from mine. Basically, if you don't need a hammer to plug something in, you should probably plug it in. :D At least in my experiance.

it's not possible. A "hermit pc" will cost you $1000ish without the moniter. Gamerman12362

the monitor will " only " cost you $500.00

[QUOTE="CubeJL"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="CubeJL"]

I think the crux of the argument is that PC gamers like to tout Crysis when benchmarking PCs vs Consoles. The common logic here of course is that for quite a bit more investment than a console one SHOULD have a better gaming experience. The best gaming value still resides in the console, which is probably why so many millions of people chose to game on consoles rather than PCs.

The reality is that, to have a gaming rig capable of playing Crisis in any respectable state, even if upgrading, the average PC owner would need Direct X10 (Windows Vista), and a graphics card and RAM upgrade. If we`re just talking normal games than I think we have a more solid comparison, but I still think the value proposition still speaks in favor of the console. Chilaxing on the couch in front of the tube, headset on, friends list set, and controller in hand is the way most people like to game. Couple that with the fact that console gaming is closed system, meaning that everyone across all platforms has a unified gaming experience, and you see why people opt the console route.

No hate on PC owners though. If you have the means and want the experience, more power to you.

Frozzik

Really?hmmm... I have my doubts on that. I'm thinking W.O.W. in mind right now...

Vista is not needed to have the best crysis experience.

Nothing new and done on PC just as well.

Of course I am assuming that not many PC gamers enjoy their games from the comfort of their living rooms. Correct me if I am wrong, but I seldom, if ever, see a PC gamer enjoying his hoby anywhere other than in front of a desk (laptops withstanding.

Also, I respect the power of WOW, but its subscriber base is right around the 10m mark. Consider that Halo 3, for instance, sold through $170m on opening day (the largest one day gross in entertainment history). With that kind of selling power, right out of the gate, its no wonder why gaming companies like Sony, MS, and Nintendo are focusing on console markets for their bread and butter. Xbox Live membership, alone, is upwards of 12 million subscribers as well.

In fact if you look at the top 10 best selling franchises of all times http://videogames.yahoo.com/feature/the-top-10-best-selling-game-franchises/532199-2 you can see that the lion`s share go to consoles. It`s not even close.

There`s a reason people prefer console gaming, folks.

I don't think there is any doubt consoles are easier and a better choice for gaming for the masses. I do believe most people don't realise just what the PC has to offer though, or just how easy it is. I play my PC on the same TV as my PS3. I sit on the same sofa. I use a pad or a wireless m/kb. You don't need to sit at a desk. The PC can be what you want it to be, thats the beauty.

As a gaming platform it offers so much. Consoles will always be the choice of most, this does not make it better though.

As for sales figures, well. I believe steam has over 15 million members, as this is a 3rd party program thats very impressive. The fact is devs continue to make games for PC, some very unique ones too. For me the PC offers a gaming experience iu could never find on a console. Its a shame many will not even try it. I'm currently playing Sins of a Solar Empire, its truly amazing, there is nothing, not one single game accross all the big 3 consoles that could give me this experience.

No doubt. Consoles often get the knod because they are `familiar` and more approachable ways of gaming. I feel you on people being closed minded and not wanting to try new things. I think as the PC becomes more familiar to the masses (including those who own one at all) we will start to see shifts in the game space. MS knows this, which is why it is so tightly integrating 360 with Games for Windows and Live.

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="CubeJL"]

I think the crux of the argument is that PC gamers like to tout Crysis when benchmarking PCs vs Consoles. The common logic here of course is that for quite a bit more investment than a console one SHOULD have a better gaming experience. The best gaming value still resides in the console, which is probably why so many millions of people chose to game on consoles rather than PCs.

The reality is that, to have a gaming rig capable of playing Crisis in any respectable state, even if upgrading, the average PC owner would need Direct X10 (Windows Vista), and a graphics card and RAM upgrade. If we`re just talking normal games than I think we have a more solid comparison, but I still think the value proposition still speaks in favor of the console. Chilaxing on the couch in front of the tube, headset on, friends list set, and controller in hand is the way most people like to game. Couple that with the fact that console gaming is closed system, meaning that everyone across all platforms has a unified gaming experience, and you see why people opt the console route.

No hate on PC owners though. If you have the means and want the experience, more power to you.

CubeJL

Really?hmmm... I have my doubts on that. I'm thinking W.O.W. in mind right now...

Vista is not needed to have the best crysis experience.

Nothing new and done on PC just as well.

Of course I am assuming that not many PC gamers enjoy their games from the comfort of their living rooms. Correct me if I am wrong, but I seldom, if ever, see a PC gamer enjoying his hobby anywhere other than in front of a desk (laptops not withstanding).

Also, I respect the power of WOW, )but its subscriber base is right around the 10m mark. Consider that Halo 3, for instance, sold through $170m on opening day (the largest one day gross in entertainment history). With that kind of selling power, right out of the gate, its no wonder why gaming companies like Sony, MS, and Nintendo are focusing on console markets for their bread and butter. Xbox Live membership, alone, is upwards of 12 million subscribers as well.

In fact if you look at the top 10 best selling franchises of all times http://videogames.yahoo.com/feature/the-top-10-best-selling-game-franchises/532199-2 you can see that the lion`s share go to consoles. It`s not even close.

There`s a reason people prefer console gaming, folks.

I chose to game at a desk with a keyboard and mouse... it's IMO the best setup you can find. Just like you chose to game in the living room... the important is that I have the option, just like any gamer.

Halo has a single player... W.O.W. hasin't. All you need is a gold member ship to play Halo that's about 60$ a year... how much is W.O.W. per month??? Theses 10 millions truly pay for gaming because they beleive it's worth it. How much would of halo sell if it had a montly fee like W.O.W.? And that's just one game...

I can also pull out the great million gamer for PC.

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="CubeJL"]

I think the crux of the argument is that PC gamers like to tout Crysis when benchmarking PCs vs Consoles. The common logic here of course is that for quite a bit more investment than a console one SHOULD have a better gaming experience. The best gaming value still resides in the console, which is probably why so many millions of people chose to game on consoles rather than PCs.

The reality is that, to have a gaming rig capable of playing Crisis in any respectable state, even if upgrading, the average PC owner would need Direct X10 (Windows Vista), and a graphics card and RAM upgrade. If we`re just talking normal games than I think we have a more solid comparison, but I still think the value proposition still speaks in favor of the console. Chilaxing on the couch in front of the tube, headset on, friends list set, and controller in hand is the way most people like to game. Couple that with the fact that console gaming is closed system, meaning that everyone across all platforms has a unified gaming experience, and you see why people opt the console route.

No hate on PC owners though. If you have the means and want the experience, more power to you.

CubeJL

Really?hmmm... I have my doubts on that. I'm thinking W.O.W. in mind right now...

Vista is not needed to have the best crysis experience.

Nothing new and done on PC just as well.

Of course I am assuming that not many PC gamers enjoy their games from the comfort of their living rooms. Correct me if I am wrong, but I seldom, if ever, see a PC gamer enjoying his hobby anywhere other than in front of a desk (laptops not withstanding).

Also, I respect the power of WOW, )but its subscriber base is right around the 10m mark. Consider that Halo 3, for instance, sold through $170m on opening day (the largest one day gross in entertainment history). With that kind of selling power, right out of the gate, its no wonder why gaming companies like Sony, MS, and Nintendo are focusing on console markets for their bread and butter. Xbox Live membership, alone, is upwards of 12 million subscribers as well.

In fact if you look at the top 10 best selling franchises of all times http://videogames.yahoo.com/feature/the-top-10-best-selling-game-franchises/532199-2 you can see that the lion`s share go to consoles. It`s not even close.

There`s a reason people prefer console gaming, folks.

WoW Burning Crusade sold as many Units as Halo 3 did on day one, something like 2.4 million units, 1.7 million of those activated within the first 12 hours.

I excpect Wrath of the Lich King to exceed that.

And for the record, the majority prefer conoles? why do you say that? when tis clearly not true. You could never accuratly count that arguement.

And Advertising lack of overall libary is why so many console games sell more... look at the 360? Gears of War came along, one of the only EXCELLENT selling games... because it was one of the only great games ... at the time.