Still Being Force-Fed Tutorials Halfway Through A Game Unappreciation

I feel like i'm being tutorial'd to death in some games

i'm playing remember me right now and I can't count how many times the game forced me into the combo lap overexplaining the very simple systems, and forcing me to mix up my pressons to make 'new' combos that all look the same

JUST LET ME PLAY THE F%KING GAME! :evil:

I hated in Red Steel 2 you couldn't turn off the damn tutorials for new moves and such. I've already learned this stuff, I don't need you to tell me again. The only game I recall where the tutorials annoyed me.

Yeah, I'd much rather just read through the instruction booklet that comes with the game. Too bad those are slowly become nothing more than 3 pages worth of contact information.

Well, if they are introducing new systems that will be relevent for the the next half of the game, then its justified. Otherwise, its just them playing it safe for stupid people everywhere.

True... every game should have an option to fully disable the tutorials, any gamer with at least a bit of experience will immediately pick up the basics of most games. Tutorials can be useful only if the game introduces some more advanced mechanic, but even then, it should be quick and to the point, without slowing down the game.

Yes, tutorials can be so f*cking annoying. Assassin's Creed 3 had a pretty long and annoying tutorial. Also, Skyrim's tutorial sucked horribly.DragonfireXZ95

Tell me about it... half of the damn game was a tutorial... while the rest was just running towards markers, occasionally pressing the "interact" button.

It's for the younger audiences :oops:bbkkristian

It's for the younger audiences :oops:bbkkristian

yeah..keep telling yourself that :P

*points at Gears of War tutorial path choices, nods in approval*

Portal 2 and Skyward Sword are 10s turned 9s as they never quiet ramp up in complexity in the second half to satisfying degrees, and both are way too guided (obvious white portal sections / Fi)

The one thing I actively disliked about Skyward Sword, and the one thing that made me dislike majority of FF13 itself. khoofia_pika

Yeah, I'd much rather just read through the instruction booklet that comes with the game. Too bad those are slowly become nothing more than 3 pages worth of contact information.

Trail_Mix

I still find it sad that we need tutorials but remember that most devs think modern gamers are f*cking idiots. (And they're right to some degree)tagyhag

R* games have some pretty annoying tutorials. I recently started RDR and I fvcking hate how they stop you and force you to read a block of text and you can forward it at your own pace. You HAVE torwait for the game to progress itself. It's like "I KNOW HOW TO FVCKING PLAY POKER". GTA IV pulled that crap too

Though I don't think they have them mid way through the game

The one thing I actively disliked about Skyward Sword, and the one thing that made me dislike majority of FF13 itself. khoofia_pika

I remember how Fi tells me the stupidest things, like that boots go on my feet. :lol:

[QUOTE="khoofia_pika"]The one thing I actively disliked about Skyward Sword, and the one thing that made me dislike majority of FF13 itself. BrunoBRS

[QUOTE="khoofia_pika"]The one thing I actively disliked about Skyward Sword, and the one thing that made me dislike majority of FF13 itself. Demonjoe93

I remember how Fi tells me the stupidest things, like that boots go on my feet. :lol:

[QUOTE="tagyhag"]I still find it sad that we need tutorials but remember that most devs think modern gamers are f*cking idiots. (And they're right to some degree)II_Seraphim_II

[QUOTE="Demonjoe93"]

[QUOTE="khoofia_pika"]The one thing I actively disliked about Skyward Sword, and the one thing that made me dislike majority of FF13 itself. khoofia_pika

I remember how Fi tells me the stupidest things, like that boots go on my feet. :lol:

And then she tells me about how the beeping means I'm low on health. :?

[QUOTE="khoofia_pika"][QUOTE="Demonjoe93"]

I remember how Fi tells me the stupidest things, like that boots go on my feet. :lol:

Demonjoe93

And then she tells me about how the beeping means I'm low on health. :?

[QUOTE="Demonjoe93"]

[QUOTE="khoofia_pika"] And every damn time I get one of those wads of gunk, I'm like dammit Fi, I get it already :xkhoofia_pika

And then she tells me about how the beeping means I'm low on health. :?

People complained about Navi? Fi redefines annoying.

Reinforcin Skyward Freekin Sword.

3 hours in and still tutorian me. Another hour until you get in the first freekin dungeon. 

A Link to the Past and Ocarina of Time I learned tutorials, the intro of the story, and inside the 1st dungeon all in the first hour. 

I'm surprised at how tedious some tutorials in shooters can be, yet I've failed to see any in most MP games I've played, some of which should require you to pass a tutorial before jumping into MP like Battlefield 3 which is full of veggie's. You can't even try out vehicles anywhere and they take some time to get used to, until then you're at the mercy of skilled enemies.

Oblivion's tutorial was just... ugh, waaaay too long, should come with an option to skip.

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="khoofia_pika"]The one thing I actively disliked about Skyward Sword, and the one thing that made me dislike majority of FF13 itself. khoofia_pika

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="khoofia_pika"]The one thing I actively disliked about Skyward Sword, and the one thing that made me dislike majority of FF13 itself. khoofia_pika

[QUOTE="Trail_Mix"]

Yeah, I'd much rather just read through the instruction booklet that comes with the game. Too bad those are slowly become nothing more than 3 pages worth of contact information.

II_Seraphim_II

Yep, I know exactly what you're talking about.

That's why I think these in-game tutorials have something to do with the lackluster manuals in the recent years. Heck, the future might just have them be integrated within the disc itself.

I know that PlayStation All-Stars game didn't come with a physical booklet either, that's because it had some type of "disc based instruction manual" option when you put the game in your console. It makes me heartbroken just thinking about it; moving onward towards the future I guess.

That was what I hated about Mass Effect 2. Always popping up that giant fvcking notice telling me to hit space to use powers, any time I went more than 10 seconds or so without using a power. I KNOW HOW TO DO IT, DAMNIT.

Far Cry 3. Everything is telling you what to do. And I'm not even talking about the pop up tutorials. Want to hunt a goat? Forget exploration, just look at the map to find the exact spot. Feels like the game is one giant tutorial that tells you where to go all the time. Most overrated game of last year.

I totally agree.

Devs think we're idiots sometimes.

*points at Gears of War tutorial path choices, nods in approval*

FastEddie2121

Reinforcin Skyward Freekin Sword.

3 hours in and still tutorian me. Another hour until you get in the first freekin dungeon. 

A Link to the Past and Ocarina of Time I learned tutorials, the intro of the story, and inside the 1st dungeon all in the first hour. 

wiifan001

What happens between the time you boot the game up and reach the first dungeon isn't tutorial. It's just an arbitrary criteria people have made up.

The game opens up once you leave Skyloft and enter Faron Woods, which is an area with just as much gameplay substance as a dungeon itself. You're fighting monsters, exploring, solving puzzles, helping local residents, finding new items; this isn't a tutorial anymore.

Skyloft's 1 hour section is imo justified because of the vast amount of mechanics this game introduces which the game eases you into, one after the other. 

In a typical TPS with standard mechanics and game design, you know exactly how it plays, so all you need is a 5 min reminder. With Skyward Sword, you need to learn Link's new movement abilities, entirely new sword fighting system, how to fly with the bird and of course get familiar with Skyloft which is the hub area you'll return to constantly as the game goes on.

SS has its handholding issues, but overly long tutorial isn't one of them. You can get through it rather quickly the second time you play, especially Hero Mode let's you skip some of the parts.

[QUOTE="tagyhag"]I still find it sad that we need tutorials but remember that most devs think modern gamers are f*cking idiots. (And they're right to some degree)II_Seraphim_II

Every game that pauses the game and gives you tutorial box to read has failed making a tutorial

It does that like twice. The only thing it shows everytime is your new abilities like Logic Bomb and Sensen Fury, WHICH ONLY MAKES SENSE.freedomfreak

that isn't true. i'm 4 hours in and still being tutorial'd